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Quote from: Nrcewker on July 20, 2024, 12:09:12 AM

It varies from person to person. I have seen both cases: when a person is winning, he becomes addicted, and when a person is also losing, he also becomes addicted. But in the long run, the winning isn’t constant. You have to face losses only; hence, in these cases, as the gambler has tasted victory and winnings, the addition develops more to gamble and convert the loss into a win. Generally, gambling addiction is seen in rich people, and they gamble to defeat their egos and hence get into addiction. Addiction is really bad, and each person has different reasons to get addicted.

Yes, it varies, I also believe that defeat can make a person addicted, but usually defeat is an annoying situation which means it takes up more emotions due to the inability to accept results that are not in line with expectations. And overall, in my opinion, the biggest trigger for addiction is winning, as you said, when gamblers experience victory after victory, their addiction will grow.

One of the reasons why addiction is most likely caused by winning is because it is certain that winning is a very encouraging situation which will indirectly make gamblers increase their hope and confidence that in the future they will be able to win again in even larger amounts, and so that in the end they become dependent on these activities, but on the other hand, in terms of addiction, to be honest, I cannot exclude poor people here, because whoever you are, if you are involved in addiction, it does not mean that it is impossible for you to end up with an addiction.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

Both, A gambler can be addicted on gambling regardless of winning or losing because it can cause addiction both ways.

You can be addicted when winning since you will be eager to play more to get more profit. There’s an unexplainable feeling that will urge to play more due to our greediness. Same with winning, Losing is more notorious on making gambler addicted due to chasing loses that makes every gambler want to play more.

It’s very seldom to be addicted due to frequent winning since only few manage a consistent profit in gambling but both winning and losing can cause addiction.

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It varies from person to person. I have seen both cases: when a person is winning, he becomes addicted, and when a person is also losing, he also becomes addicted. But in the long run, the winning isn’t constant. You have to face losses only; hence, in these cases, as the gambler has tasted victory and winnings, the addition develops more to gamble and convert the loss into a win. Generally, gambling addiction is seen in rich people, and they gamble to defeat their egos and hence get into addiction. Addiction is really bad, and each person has different reasons to get addicted.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

In my own estimation, a gambler can be addicted to gamble based on other factors more just "winning" or "losing". If the person is from an environment where gambling thrives and no one cares if anyone becomes a addict, you will not need a win or loss to become one. I have mentions, the society, then comes family. A nonchalant, non-present gambling father or mother could be another factor that pushes a kid into gambling other than winning or losing. Further, an individual using gambling as coping from loneliness, separation can also become addicted to gambling too and I can go on and on about it.

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Quote from: Juicyhome on July 19, 2024, 03:28:24 PM

I don't get, why won't you expect to get money from gamble, why did you play or stake a bet its not to gain money, which one is that isn't everytime we should expect money from gamble, what then should we expect? In asmuch as I know we never gonna tell the outcome of gamble it could be lost or winning, but we play with positive mind even when it turns out the other way. Consistency with good analysis will help you to win, also stake what you can Lose.

They can not gain money from gambling because they lose in gambling. If they can thinks positive that gambling can not always gives the wins, that will not makes them gambling often and spend more money. But we see many people still gambling and hopes they can wins some money and they don't use limitation in gambling so that can makes them have gambling addiction. The outcome can gives us wins and lose and that will happens like that so we must realizes that we must prevents the lose. We can not expect to get money from gambling because gambling is just for fun and not make money place so we must be careful in gambling.

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What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

Seriously, both make’s people get addicted to gambling. After losing money from gambling, some people will want to win back the money they have lost, or some have seen some people win from gambling before, so they have the confidence that if they don’t give up, they are going to hit a jackpot in a day, and they will end up being addicted to gambling without even knowing it. Why after some people have won some reasonable amount of money from gambling, and they start losing, they will never stop gambling because they will think their winning period will be back if they don’t give up.

Yes, both reasons can lead addiction to a person, same with your sentiment if a gambler losses his initial bankroll he will think that by adding more he will manage to recover his losses, and from that stand point his adrenaline is already increased his lust will keep him stay inside the house and will keep him trying to play and recover everything, same deal with winning, if he feels that he's lucky he will be greedy thinking that luck will always gave him more money, that's also increased his adrenaline and will keep him playing until he loses everything back to the house.

You are right, and I completely agree with you, and since it's already established that both winning and losing can lead a gambler into becoming addicted to gambling, lets now conclude that it is the gambler's mindset, approach to gambling that determine if he or she will become addicted to gambling or not.

How a gambler choose to go about gambling after experiencing a good win, or after experiencing a huge loss, is ultimately what determines if that gambler will potentially become addicted to gambling, and this is why it's always very important for us all as gamblers to pay attention to our actions, most especially when ever such things as a major win or loss occurs/happens, we should do away wit any thing or action that might represent greed, and only do what we are sure will not affect us mentally.

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Quote from: Wakate on July 19, 2024, 02:57:37 PM

Addiction may be when we are trying to hard to make money from a casino and we are not getting the results we are looking for. Gambling is fun and it is good we keep trying to earn more money from ourselves. There are some times when we would be confidence to make money from bets but we end up not making any money for ourselves. Gambling is meant to be fun but not something we do to make sure that we make money by force. If we really want to make money from gambling and remove gambling addiction then we must be ready to take whatever outcome we get as a result our gambling activities. It is not everytime that we expect to make money from gambling.

I think it's like that, the results that occurred and were obtained were not in accordance with the expectations we had. Also because of this, it can attract us to gamble again for longer and of course financially and time will be affected. getting money from gambling is something that can be said to be unlikely, because this is a business so there are no guaranteed profits, because gambling is a game where winning is uncertain. However, those who are addicted think that winning at gambling is something that will definitely happen and can be obtained. To be honest, the addiction was caused by them themselves.
In fact, it's not being able to accept the results that have already happened that in my opinion makes them addicted, because with an attitude like that it makes them want to continue gambling with the goal being to win, if when they lose and can't accept the results they will have thoughts of wanting to recover their losses. , whereas this will only make them addicted because they will be trapped deeper into gambling.

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Quote from: Fortify on July 19, 2024, 04:00:16 PM

Winning makes gamblers addicted, because everyone likes to win and the brain rewards activity in which we feel successful by releasing happy chemicals. Everyone likes to feel happy and many people are willing to exchange money for that happy feeling and the rush we get from winning. Adrenaline also gets released into the bloodstream which makes our heart beat faster and triggers lots of other pleasurable responses in the body. However some people are aware of these feelings and how they are triggered, so they know to only engage with it a little bit. Otherwise you start to form habitual behavior, which is the dangerous part - you return to the game, you add more to the wallet, you keep coming back session after session, day after day, week after week - always chasing that high you got the most from at the very beginning.

In fact, the state of addiction begins not at the moment when the player receives a win and subsequently wants to constantly experience the feeling of winning, but at the moment when it seems to him (and the casinos skillfully create this illusion) that he was close to winning. I've read studies on this topic. The closer the goal, the stronger our instincts force us to continue to achieve it. This is one of the factors in the emergence of addiction, then of course a habit is formed, and so on.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

Seriously, both make’s people get addicted to gambling. After losing money from gambling, some people will want to win back the money they have lost, or some have seen some people win from gambling before, so they have the confidence that if they don’t give up, they are going to hit a jackpot in a day, and they will end up being addicted to gambling without even knowing it. Why after some people have won some reasonable amount of money from gambling, and they start losing, they will never stop gambling because they will think their winning period will be back if they don’t give up.

Yes, both reasons can lead addiction to a person, same with your sentiment if a gambler losses his initial bankroll he will think that by adding more he will manage to recover his losses, and from that stand point his adrenaline is already increased his lust will keep him stay inside the house and will keep him trying to play and recover everything, same deal with winning, if he feels that he's lucky he will be greedy thinking that luck will always gave him more money, that's also increased his adrenaline and will keep him playing until he loses everything back to the house.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

Many of you have seen an addicted gamblers and if am correct some of us have been addicted to gamble but fortunately for you, you were lucky to realize how bad addiction can be and you limit yourself from gamble or take a break from anything bets.
However, it's just a simple question about addicted gamblers, like the topic above.
What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

Winning makes gamblers addicted, because everyone likes to win and the brain rewards activity in which we feel successful by releasing happy chemicals. Everyone likes to feel happy and many people are willing to exchange money for that happy feeling and the rush we get from winning. Adrenaline also gets released into the bloodstream which makes our heart beat faster and triggers lots of other pleasurable responses in the body. However some people are aware of these feelings and how they are triggered, so they know to only engage with it a little bit. Otherwise you start to form habitual behavior, which is the dangerous part - you return to the game, you add more to the wallet, you keep coming back session after session, day after day, week after week - always chasing that high you got the most from at the very beginning.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

Both can contribute, that is the best true, but this is considered due to your emotions in reaction to different situations because if you are always winning, this will make you grow a higher level of confidence that will make you feel that you will never lose in gambling and it will still show you that you are the luckiest person ever, so that will tend to reduce your fear or risk of gambling and in no time you will be addicted to gambling.

While if you also lose, you will grow a sense of casting after your loss and keep putting hope that one day you will definitely win, and in no time you will be addicted to gambling without you knowing, but if you are able to balance your emotions and your finances, then you are less likely to be involved in such a risk of addiction because you will be focused on the win, not on getting addicted.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

Seriously, both make’s people get addicted to gambling. After losing money from gambling, some people will want to win back the money they have lost, or some have seen some people win from gambling before, so they have the confidence that if they don’t give up, they are going to hit a jackpot in a day, and they will end up being addicted to gambling without even knowing it. Why after some people have won some reasonable amount of money from gambling, and they start losing, they will never stop gambling because they will think their winning period will be back if they don’t give up.

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Many of you have seen an addicted gamblers and if am correct some of us have been addicted to gamble but fortunately for you, you were lucky to realize how bad addiction can be and you limit yourself from gamble or take a break from anything bets.

This could be a possible two factor. One is they are already entertained upon playing gambling which is the reason why there's a gambling casino to give fun, excitement, and entertainment to its players it could be in different forms like satisfaction having good accommodation, perks, games or even food if they are in the physical casino and etc. The other one is they already experienced win a game and we know how to get too much temptation once you win a large amount of course you are hoping until where you can get with your luck and win a large amount but not all the gambler face the same faith some of them lose their money due to wrong decision making like being greedy.

Addiction may be when we are trying to hard to make money from a casino and we are not getting the results we are looking for. Gambling is fun and it is good we keep trying to earn more money from ourselves. There are some times when we would be confidence to make money from bets but we end up not making any money for ourselves. Gambling is meant to be fun but not something we do to make sure that we make money by force. If we really want to make money from gambling and remove gambling addiction then we must be ready to take whatever outcome we get as a result our gambling activities. It is not everytime that we expect to make money from gambling.

I don't get, why won't you expect to get money from gamble, why did you play or stake a bet its not to gain money, which one is that isn't everytime we should expect money from gamble, what then should we expect? In asmuch as I know we never gonna tell the outcome of gamble it could be lost or winning, but we play with positive mind even when it turns out the other way. Consistency with good analysis will help you to win, also stake what you can Lose.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on July 19, 2024, 08:48:48 AM

Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

Many of you have seen an addicted gamblers and if am correct some of us have been addicted to gamble but fortunately for you, you were lucky to realize how bad addiction can be and you limit yourself from gamble or take a break from anything bets.

This could be a possible two factor. One is they are already entertained upon playing gambling which is the reason why there's a gambling casino to give fun, excitement, and entertainment to its players it could be in different forms like satisfaction having good accommodation, perks, games or even food if they are in the physical casino and etc. The other one is they already experienced win a game and we know how to get too much temptation once you win a large amount of course you are hoping until where you can get with your luck and win a large amount but not all the gambler face the same faith some of them lose their money due to wrong decision making like being greedy.

Addiction may be when we are trying to hard to make money from a casino and we are not getting the results we are looking for. Gambling is fun and it is good we keep trying to earn more money from ourselves. There are some times when we would be confidence to make money from bets but we end up not making any money for ourselves. Gambling is meant to be fun but not something we do to make sure that we make money by force. If we really want to make money from gambling and remove gambling addiction then we must be ready to take whatever outcome we get as a result our gambling activities. It is not everytime that we expect to make money from gambling.

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Yes, I forgot to say that, or I mean I also agree that being a streamer or affiliate can be another way besides being a casino owner to earn a lot of money without being involved with the general risks that exist in gambling, such as losing which we often experience.

But maybe if we compare it with the turnover when we become the owner of a casino compared to being a stremer or affiliate who collaborates with the casino, but yes of course I also understand that becoming the owner of a casino is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand because of course you have to do a lot. What you have to prepare is especially large capital, and yes the point is of course this is a more sensible way to make more money than just being an ordinary gambler who depends on luck.

Yea, I am glad you already know that owning a casino is not just so easy. It requires a lot of money, and if you don't have the money to start it, you need to have a lot of investors. A gambler should keep in mind that a casino cannot guarantee winning all the time; winning is a probability. Most people are addicted because they feel gambling is an investment that can give them a double of what was invested in great assurance, while it doesn't work like that. You might luckily have doubled your stake, but the next day you gamble, you could still lose it.

Yes and you have given other suggestions which are more suitable for people who do not have a good financial situation to become a casino owner, namely by becoming a stremer or affiliate who collaborates with the casino.

I like your idea about winning which is actually nothing more than a probability or possibility which in the sense has no guarantee or certainty that it can always happen, and I think this is a fact about gambling, because as we often experience, winning only happens. Coincidentally, sometimes when we really hope for victory but the result is losing, but on the contrary, when we don't have any hope at all but the result is winning.

And I think this scenario is really very normal to happen in gambling, because it wouldn't be called gambling if it turned out that the results could be predicted from the start. On the other hand, yes, I also agree with you that most people think that gambling can give them a lot of money. I understand that the chance of winning is really real, but what they don't know is that everything will always happen randomly, meaning that you will always lose. happens anytime.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

Many of you have seen an addicted gamblers and if am correct some of us have been addicted to gamble but fortunately for you, you were lucky to realize how bad addiction can be and you limit yourself from gamble or take a break from anything bets.
However, it's just a simple question about addicted gamblers, like the topic above.
What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

I think people that are not gambling today are not lucky but because they are educated about what gambling addiction is about and how it has affected people and this scare them from following the same steps if not most people here will be sending their weekly payment to casino just to gamble because gambling is money driving and when you put money before anything, you will like get affected with gambling addiction msot especially when you encounter losses.

If you are the type of person that find it difficult to avoid emotions when it comes to losses in gambling, then you have the tendency of becoming addicted person. Loss is inevitable in gambling and if you can over look it and just see it as norm, you wouldn't have any problem but if you can't and try to make that money by all means, you are likely to become addicted. If you are also gambling because of financial reasons problems, you are also likely to become addicted person.

I understand your point. While it may appear that non-gamblers are missing out, in reality they are steering clear of the looming risk of gambling addiction which can have dire consequences. The clutches of gambling addiction can dismantle one's life, particularly if emotions are difficult to control upon facing losses.

Gambling losses: ubiquitous, unavoidable. If one can accept the losses without making an effort to chase wins, they might not get into addiction. However, a person gambling due to financial issues or one who continues in any way (even by throwing more money into it) to try recouping losses is at high risk of getting addicted.

Responsible gambling is therefore highly important: to know the risks involved and not shy away from seeking help if there are indications that you or someone else may have a gambling problem, do this before it spirals out of control.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on July 19, 2024, 08:48:48 AM

Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

Many of you have seen an addicted gamblers and if am correct some of us have been addicted to gamble but fortunately for you, you were lucky to realize how bad addiction can be and you limit yourself from gamble or take a break from anything bets.

This could be a possible two factor. One is they are already entertained upon playing gambling which is the reason why there's a gambling casino to give fun, excitement, and entertainment to its players it could be in different forms like satisfaction having good accommodation, perks, games or even food if they are in the physical casino and etc. The other one is they already experienced win a game and we know how to get too much temptation once you win a large amount of course you are hoping until where you can get with your luck and win a large amount but not all the gambler face the same faith some of them lose their money due to wrong decision making like being greedy.

I fully agree with you that indeed the gambler does become happy with his gambling with various facilities provided by the casino so that he is always addicted to gambling, I think that is indeed convincing why people gamble and then get addicted.

But for me personally, most people are addicted to it because they get a big win from gambling, especially for people who have a lazy mentality, when they get a big win from gambling they will always look for the next instant thing to feel or get a large amount of money with gambling games, accompanied by greed that makes them never win back like at the beginning of getting a win, I think someone needs to realize this before they have an addiction to gambling, especially for novice gamblers.

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Quote from: Su-asa on July 16, 2024, 10:42:03 AM

Many of you have seen an addicted gamblers and if am correct some of us have been addicted to gamble but fortunately for you, you were lucky to realize how bad addiction can be and you limit yourself from gamble or take a break from anything bets.
However, it's just a simple question about addicted gamblers, like the topic above.
What really makes a gambler to become addicts to gamble?
Lose or winning?

I think people that are not gambling today are not lucky but because they are educated about what gambling addiction is about and how it has affected people and this scare them from following the same steps if not most people here will be sending their weekly payment to casino just to gamble because gambling is money driving and when you put money before anything, you will like get affected with gambling addiction msot especially when you encounter losses.

If you are the type of person that find it difficult to avoid emotions when it comes to losses in gambling, then you have the tendency of becoming addicted person. Loss is inevitable in gambling and if you can over look it and just see it as norm, you wouldn't have any problem but if you can't and try to make that money by all means, you are likely to become addicted. If you are also gambling because of financial reasons problems, you are also likely to become addicted person.

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This could be a possible two factor. One is they are already entertained upon playing gambling which is the reason why there's a gambling casino to give fun, excitement, and entertainment to its players it could be in different forms like satisfaction having good accommodation, perks, games or even food if they are in the physical casino and etc. The other one is they already experienced win a game and we know how to get too much temptation once you win a large amount of course you are hoping until where you can get with your luck and win a large amount but not all the gambler face the same faith some of them lose their money due to wrong decision making like being greedy.

Winning or losing are two factors that can influence a gambler to return to the casino, whatever their actual reasons. I'm sure some gamblers don't admit that they gamble to win, while they reason to entertain themselves. Basically every time they return it is due to addiction, whether it is serious or not depends on how they control themselves and their finances.

We always feel curious about something we haven't won. All games are made like that so that in the end the players feel challenged to win, this is also adopted in every gambling game. The desire to win and get the maximum jackpot are some of the reasons why they come back, so it's not purely for fun.

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Quote from: Gheka on July 18, 2024, 09:35:52 AM

Indeed, losing or winning are just returns after a period that we have exchanged to receive, addiction is not related to the result, although that may be the cause of the unsightly results but that's the back story, not the beginning of addiction, and to be honest, addiction is just a hole in the psyche, it's the frequency and intensity with which we engage in one thing. By aspiring to a distant goal, the hole slowly cracks wider, increasing the time involved and as the initial premise, the unsightly results that come from such scenarios

The results that occur don't really have a big influence, but here it is our thoughts that will determine it. If we think wrongly then what can happen is an addiction to gambling or something else that makes us unable to stop gambling. Apart from that, we must be able to manage our thinking to always think clearly, with good thinking there will be no thoughts of gambling excessively. The losses that are often unacceptable are because of their wrong thinking, where they have high hopes for gambling and the winnings that can be obtained, while the winnings in gambling are not certain, but with the wrong thinking, they cannot stop gambling because of their strong desire to win. encourage themselves to continue gambling.

Likewise, when we win, if our thinking is wrong what we will think about is an even bigger win. with wrong thinking when we win, we will feel that at that time luck is on our side and the risk of losing can be put aside even though what will definitely happen is defeat or loss, but this wrong thinking causes the risk side to be ignored so that the decision taken is to return. betting with winnings used as capital has a higher stake because you want an even bigger win.

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