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Topic: What many of us newbies are getting wrong about merit (Read 300 times)

legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 5937
On this particular thread, he did not get merit only on other posts and he deserves those merits
To be honest, I don't see much difference between those posts he got merit and this one as its the same old type of advice topics we saw countless times before. Sometimes it works, sometimes don't.


I stopped giving to newbies who create threads specifically for newbies how to get merits, the one who deserves to create that kind of thread are members who can generate 50 or more merits every week and which pass the newbie rank, I frowned on newbies who has the nerve to do this, rank up first then when you can organically get merits, then teach us how you do it.
Situation in that regard is much better than it was year ior two ago when these kind of topics were getting way too miuch merit. I guess people finally learned to recognzie merit fishing, or at least majorify of them while some probably don't even care and just give few merits.
legendary
Activity: 3192
Merit: 1198
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Since he already managed to earn 6 merits, I would say that he is doing a  good job getting people fooled.


On this particular thread, he did not get merit only on other posts and he deserves those merits, I stopped giving to newbies who create threads specifically for newbies how to get merits, the one who deserves to create that kind of thread are members who can generate 50 or more merits every week and which pass the newbie rank, I frowned on newbies who has the nerve to do this, rank up first then when you can organically get merits, then teach us how you do it.
hero member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 770
Focusing too much on earning merits can distract from the real purpose of the forum, which is learning and sharing valuable insights about crypto. Quality contributions come from a deep understanding and genuine interest in the subject. it's about adding value to the community, not just accumulating merits. Keep asking questions, do your own research, and be objective/skeptical. Your growth and meaningful contributions will naturally lead to earning merits.

This is true, but getting merit is self-satisfaction. There is more pride in opinions, opinions, written evidence. This means that we get more rewards with Merit. Many people go to great lengths to get this. This means that there is a relationship between the purpose of the forum and merit. With good discussion quality, it will make the forum more qualified. Because there are already clear rules, so it will not damage the forum if they pursue merit with discussions according to the forum rules. Because this forum does regulate and facilitate this. CMIIW
hero member
Activity: 1430
Merit: 513
Focusing too much on earning merits can distract from the real purpose of the forum, which is learning and sharing valuable insights about crypto. Quality contributions come from a deep understanding and genuine interest in the subject. it's about adding value to the community, not just accumulating merits. Keep asking questions, do your own research, and be objective/skeptical. Your growth and meaningful contributions will naturally lead to earning merits.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 501
I'm not a new member, I've been on this forum for quite some time now even though in active.
OP, which words of yours do you want us to believe or accept as ''you being a newbie or not being a newbie"? In your post, you said that you are a newbie and here you are saying that you are not a newbie in the forum.

This is not me trying to claim as tho I know anything much, besides Im still a newbie like some of us here and I think I'm not to small or too early to give forum advice if I have something good to say. Since I'm also a newbie I think that one of our major challenge is to earn merit.
OP, you can't leave your account stagnant for some time without getting involved in the forum and expecting it to grow by itself without earning merits.

Merits are not the main focus of the forum, but it is used to serve or judge the level of someone's involvement in the questions and answers made in the forum. However, try and get more involved in the forum than leaving your account inactive for months without making posts.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 581
This is not me trying to claim as tho I know anything much, besides Im still a newbie like some of us here and I think I'm not to small or too early to give forum advice if I have something good to say.
Well, you might not be too small or too early to give forum advice but only if you have found something that no one else has said or discussed already. There is no point in writing points or discussing something that has been discussed thousands of times already. Whether it's an attempt to earn some Merit or not, it's a repetitive thread nonetheless.

And, a post doesn't always have to be of extreme quality to get Merit from a user, I may Merit a post that I find useful or I might do it if I find it funny based on the situation or the nature of the response matches what I may have in my mind as well which means that the user has written what I would have written if the user didn't do it already.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 283
Newbies need to take caution about advising newbies. Other high ranking members will not take you seriously.
Even if you know more than maybe as a result of experience, you should do more reading and less of creating of lengthy threads.

full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 216
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👉 I would love to acknowledge the fact that different persons on this forum have different perspectives and interests and would react to different comments and thread differently.
 So I would give a very general answer to this question.
The people on the forum have different reactions inside their brains that rarely match each other. Accordingly, if you want to create a thread, share your thoughts and reactions there. And it has to admit that you will pick up the reactions that are inside you and build that thread based on your knowledge in different ways. And it's common for people who post their great thoughts and feedback to gain merit in this forum.
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 140
Sometimes, it's not good how some novices even respond in this topic. Some people will just go ahead and create a topic about merit; they are unaware that they are too quick to be shadowed by their own shadow. The reason for this is that, rather than exploring the forum further to learn how to obtain merit without dropping a thread suggesting that someone assist you with merit, some people are relaying that if they drop a thread suggesting that someone assist you with merit, they believe that everyone will just be given like.They are unaware that the quality of the post is what will determines the merit you can receive.

sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 500
Of all the ideas in the world why do newbie always come to the forum and create posts about merit? This could only mean it is the only thing on their mind.

They need to understand growing is natural and it can only follow through after gaining enough knowledge and not by teaching their fellow newbies how to earn merit or how to create quality posts. If you understand the concept of quality post then you should have created a post already full of merits.

👉 Firstly I'll say STOP BEING SO MERIT CONCIOUS
This post proves you already breaking your own rule above by being merit conscious.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 546
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Op you can still summarize all what you written in five lines and still make sense don't you think so? you trying to talk about the mistakes of newbies and correcting them while your topic is still centered on what you want to correct makes no sense to me because there's no difference between you and them. Why not talk about something else since so many newbies have been talking about merits merits merits, stop making things look difficult for you since you already know what do do to be appreciated go ahead and do your research, come up with a quality post and see if anyone will criticize your work, you can't teach what you don't know and you can't give what you don't have I think you need to know all this before advising newbies again.
hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 702
Well going by the body of your post, that is certainly you claiming to know it all but you don't have the merit to back it up, you are a newbie, I don't care how large your knowledge about crypto-currency is that doesn't change the fact that you are a newbie and you idea about merit is not rigid.
My advice to you and many newbies like you is don't frustrate yourself finding out about merit, there are merit sources out there watch posts so all you have to do it post wisely and helpful posts.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 5637
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But I think what they might be confused about is the idea of quality, which would have been simplified aa helpful. From my long term observation on this forum I have come to realise that the merit system isn't bias in any way and merit goes to those that are making helpful contributions to the forum, be it by Comments or making a thread.
With this point noted I think the next question should be, WHAT DOES THIS FORUM CONSIDER AS HELPFUL OR QUALITY POST?
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If you've been watching the forum for a long time, then you should have already come to the conclusion what it can be considered a quality post, but you also have to know that the concept of quality is something that not everyone experiences in the same way. Some post that according to your criteria is of high quality and helps you, may not be in that category for others. The reason may be that the content of that post is something they have already read many times, or even that it is plagiarism or an AI generated post.

What you completely overlooked is that many members appreciate posts that are in some way funny, cynical or ironic and in themselves do not have the quality you are talking about. At the end of the day, the point is that you are unique and that you are really interested in what you are writing about on the forum, because otherwise you are just one more spammer in a sea of spammers who become irrelevant.
hero member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 770
One of the things that both real and obviously fake newbies (like you) are getting wrong about merit is that you have to share guides and appear as know it all in order to het merit, while in fact you can also earn merit by by asking the right questions and being genuinely interested in bitcoin.

Maybe the newbies just have to start a lot according to their expertise and write about it here. It seems original and interesting. There seems to be no need to be afraid of being wrong, as many will confirm. I used to start with this kind of thing too. Writing on the basis of personal experience.
Asking questions about Bitcoin is also quite interesting, but I don't see many questions getting a merit reward. Although the truth is that questions from people who don't understand will make the discussion more colorful and interesting. I also asked because I have limited knowledge. Not all topics I can know well.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 195
I don't know how you get to know about this forum and the purpose at which you have in mind. The forum is much bigger than what you think, merits are just rewards for your good contribution to the forum, trust me with creating this kind of thread you surely still have a long way to go.

I'm not a new member, I've been on this forum for quite some time now even though in active.
Your account was created on the 5th of July 2022 which is about 1 year and months, at the date of this creation not even a single post was made and you were inactive, so don't claim to know while you know nothing, if at all you knew you would not have thought about creating a thread like this.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 387
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Since he already managed to earn 6 merits, I would say that he is doing a  good job getting people fooled.
Fooled peopled to get 6 merit and distributed it to other accounts.

Merits should be considered as an add-on rather than a requirement.
Merit is a requirement for member rank and forum members must get merit from quality posts to rank up.

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hero member
Activity: 1540
Merit: 564
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There are numerous topics in regards to the same but at the same time this is the topic where most of the users have misunderstood the concept because you will some people just keep on getting merit will be sharing extensive details which indeed helps other and there is no harm in it, while others just share their opinion and actively join any discussions and when they don't know they do some research and share the thoughts which looks natural they get merit. Now the difference between two is simplex as the first one wants to climb the ladder of ranking and the second one is just being themself and both deserve merits.

Merits should be considered as an add-on rather than a requirement.

sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 387
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A newbie comes to write an essay about merit.

Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

Why do some newbies posting essays?
Why do some campaign members posting essay?

Writing an essay won't help you to get merit.
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When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 669
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What are you doing mate?, If you don't want to write anything when you quoted someone then it's better if you didn't post this one because it is only a spam. If I were you, I would just delete it because if yoi didn't then you only add more work for the mods and right now they sre very busy deleting low quality posts and spam posts to make this forum clean. It would be better if you join the discussion but if you didn't know the topic then you can just find another topic to join in the discussion. Sorry guys since this post of mine is off topic.
hero member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 555

And i think important threads like this if there have been made before should either be pinned on top so new commers intrested should view too or the idea of telling newbies to search for old topics should also be publicised on this forum  too as we always encourage others them to do personal research.

Aren’t you contradicting yourself here? I’m certain if the mods pinned your thread today, we would still have newbies creating the same thread about how to get merits. The problem is that most newbies do not want to do their own research even when the information is at their fingertips, they rather make their own thread than read. I believe people who do this here like to talk than listen IRL.
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