Topic: Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (Read 1410 times)

I think the message should be drawn to newbies that are always eagered to teach people on how to behave in the community.
It is very important for us to stay safe from irregular activities as an investor that would affect us in a long run.
Those that had been in this community for long do not even make noice like some people that are always interested in teaching people how to trade, invest and do other things when they don't even know all these things. When we don't understand something or when we understand less, it is good for us to listen to others that have much clearer view than us.

Well this is actually true no doubt but if I may ask how much effort have you contributed or made to the Newbies.  Have you given them a guidelines on what to do. What exactly have you teach them. Since they are novice why don't you bring a separate forum for them till they are good to go.
Sorry if you see this as a dispute. Just like you said,  some people has already acquired knowledge about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency but they are here as newbie, telling full member,  snr member etc what to do in this forum is what I do not support but I guess sometimes there post maybe relevant but because they are newbie you don't care to read their thread carefully to find out something helpful but instead you look for errors the most. They said nobody is perfect even teachers, lecturers etc don't use to be right all the time even when a student wants to contribute they ask them to seat or they disagree.  Just like I said I am not disputing what you said you are correct but think about this thanks.

We are talking about those real newbies, which means newbie accounts of this forum and newbies on crypto investment/trading as well. We can know whether it is real newbies or not from the content of their posts and they way they deliver it. Since they just know about crypto, the best way is to focus in learning. Teaching others shouldn't be a priority, it is only done by experts or experienced ones.  

For the people who just joined this forum but they actually already invested or traded for a long time, it is okay to teach others. Those people who have much experience and knowledge, they always deserve to teach others. But this means they are not newbies on crypto, but they are newbie accounts in this forum. I rarely found this type of newbies, mostly most newbies in this forum are the real newbies. The real newbies I mean that those people who are really newcomers in crypto and they are newbie accounts in this forum, too.

Anyway, do you mean Alts accounts is alternative accounts or second accounts of someone?
Sure. It is possible that a newbie account is the Alts account of high members of this forum. But if they really have the intention to teach others, they are better to use their main accounts, right?

I disagree with you on what you said. I know you said it for the benefit of us and as well as for those newbies who are doing this type of shit, but brother not all the newbies doing the same. Many newbies know bundles of knowledge and they are serving the forum very well and the users awarded them through their merits giving to them. It does not mean that a newbie who is talking about trading here doesn't know well maybe he has been doing it for some time but fortunately, he found this forum recently so how you can say to stop teaching others, there are many Alts accounts of users who also teaching and giving their valuable knowledge to us. There must be some newbies who did this type of posting and it is better if you quote their post for confirmation and also that person take lesson and motivation from that.

I have been on the forum to read from the top ranking members post, while making me to learn more about cryptocurrency investment, and has been a long term I commit on a post since I joined the forum. I hope I'm welcome.

Newbies that come to this forum with the purpose of learning don't do that, it's only the ones that are referred by someone to the forum saying that they can actually earn money from here if they reach a certain rank and join a signature campaign, they are also told that they can't rank up if they don't get Merits, so the fundamental target they have is to earn Merits, and as they surf the forum, they come to know that one needs to make constructive posts to earn Merits, and for some reason, most newbies think that a constructive post is a very long and informative post whether it serves any purpose or not, whether it's being repeated for the thousandth time, or whether it solves an unsolved problem, they don't think about any of this and just make random posts attempting to earn some Merits.

I also believe that the reason why such users create threads trying to teach something is because they occasionally see OP's getting a lot of Merits in their initial posts which makes them think that maybe people give Merits easily to created threads compared to posts in those threads which is a completely wrong mindset but at the end of the day, they are newbies and they don't know much.

They dont only appreciate learning from each other. They tend to share their thought and discuss more freely, deeply into a particular topic. This is because newbies dont feel like a superior on another newbie they fell that they have a lot in common so they can share ideas together that will help them grow. A newbie is eager to learn than those who have already learnt it. So learning and growing is the zeal that will push a newbie higher so if they see anyone at the same level with them that can assist them or leave quality information's on that same topic they are trying to learn they will be very happy about it.

Newbies should stop feeling like they are intimidated in the forum we are one and learning never ends. If you are corrected of a mistake here in the forum then you should learn from it and dont act like you know it all.

I do not totally condemn the act of newbies teaching fellow newbies. I do not have a problem with that only if the newbie know what they want to teach. It is not all newbies that are very novice to the cryptocurrency market. Some of them have been in the bitcoin industry even before discovering this forum.

I also know when I was in the higher institution, my course mates enjoy learning from me more than learning from the course lecturer. Reason that their fellow newbies will appreciate them better while teaching.

But I frown at those newbies for teach their fellow newbies and also teach older members in the forum.

this is a matter of overconfidence by looking easily and maybe taking from social media in general, of course in general.
not relevant to the forum's mission to discuss with each other, not to make each other feel the most righteous with a reality that is not necessarily as fast as what he is talking about. (his goal is to pursue any achievement with too much ambition because the goal is royalties or rankings that are obtained,)

or if he already understands, maybe he is someone who has been on the forum for a long time but only has the confidence to start posting without looking at the writing procedures, attitudes and accountability that he stated, we will see his next post...

If it has become a habit, maybe that person can't participate in discussions because he doesn't know and doesn't seek information to become a technically good poster, only seeks knowledge for himself and doesn't share his opinions, understanding and experience for others step by step, he should be able to choose words and the rhythm of writing without raising and patronizing anyone even if what he says is true.

The forum is a freedom of activity according to the board and topic chosen, uniting users around the world for those who have bitcointalk users with various characters and languages that they have, each of which has a rank that indicates their activity first and more experience in the forum, bringing together everyone to have an opinion in the discussion. that's what I make a guideline that attitude is number 1.

Another thing is how can you tell who knows what he or she is saying as in sharing crypto knowledge?
You can't point out an individual that he doesn't know what he's saying, to me is best you take whatever is coming out from any newbie, take your time and process it then you check if this same guy has what it takes to even give you any form of lecture concerning Bitcoin or crypto business.
Fine, we have many who thinks they know it all but I'll always say it, no knowledge is a waste. We shouldn't forget that we have those who can't help it but run their mouth when they don't know much of what they're saying and they don't care if you're losing funds or not, all they know is talk much on what they're not suppose to, those are the misleading ones we should be aware of on the forum.

I think the newbies op is referring to are the ones who do not know what they are saying. True their might be newbie in the forum who are sound in the discussion they make, very full of knowledge. Newbies who are knowledgeable their is nothing wrong if they should share their knowledge with forum members but for those who don't have Idea about about what they intend to teach other people it is better for them to learn first to share good knowledge that will be benefit of forum members, than misleading with wrong ideas.

This is a mistake we often make that we should completely avoid. When we fail to develop ourselves due to lack of adequate education, imparting knowledge or teaching to others is a complete waste of time which has no value. Giving knowledge without being wise is nothing but foolishness. What we should do is to make sure that learning is important when we are learning. We who are doing this mistake are not able to find this mistake ourselves because lack of enough education at that time. First you have to enlighten yourself, then you can take the responsibility of inspiring others.

If a person is motivated to do the right thing then never discourage him but rather encourage him. This forum has many discussions for newbies where newbies can learn a lot about investing. There are a lot of posts by newbies on the subject of Bitcoin investing but it's not right to discourage them because of their zero qualifications. This forum is the guide line for newbies from where everyone can get an idea about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency and get some good education. There are many people who talk a lot about newcomers, but I think that person was once a newcomer. Newbies can learn a lot from the forum and they are able to learn all the aspects of Bitcoin and gain better knowledge later on.

Hey buddy, don't feel attacked; it might break you down if you start feeling that a particular thread is a direct attack on you.
 
First, there is nothing wrong with creating a thread that you know has meaning, and if you are confused about something, you can create a thread and ask questions about it; it's normal and it expands our knowledge, but here the OP is focusing on those who still have a lot of things to learn but start up threads to teach their fellow newbies about what they themselves don't know about.
 
The OP's point is that, if you are a newbie, instead of starting a tutoring class, why not look for one and attend yourself to gain that knowledge? As the person might appear to need the knowledge more than anyone else, you can only reach what you know and not what you feel like is meant to be taught. The OP means no harm to you or any other member. The rate at which newbies come up with forum-educating topics is alarming, and most times they end up passing the wrong information, which is misleading.

As the OP mentioned he doesn't want to discourage newbies but he made valid points. Many new members tried to make posts about educational content for which they gathered information from google. They tried to teach something that they didn't have expertise in. So it is important for them to first educate themselves and help others with their knowledge. It is important for them to read more than write. 

When you have the tag newbie, it does not necessarily means you have no idea about the system but for the fact that you are new onboard that platform and any new members always have that tag as a newbie just as it is here. There are lots of newbies here whom I have read through their posts and articles, I can tell they are not new to Bitcoin. At least to some extent, they know a bit more about the system and how it works. Although some newbies take out time to read and learn so that they could get more knowledge before identifying with the system as not to see everything about the system to be strange to them. It is good to do so that it does not looks as if you can not Comprehend the system and how it works.

I personally prefer to give freedom to those beginners. As long as they understand what they are actually conveying. If they talk like an expert and advise many people, it turns out that the beginner really has zero experience and minimal insight. Then something like that is completely unacceptable.

Only share things we are really good at. It doesn't matter if you are a beginner or not. But if you have high insight regarding crypto and there is someone who needs an answer, then answer them according to the insight we have.

But one thing you must always remember is to obey all the rules on this forum. finished.

Truth is, most newbies have important things to share, like they've experiences to teach others from and most times, more reference is made on the ranks and not the message. Most ranked up members may intentionally ignore the posts of newbies just because they're newbies. Worst case scenarios, may even  put them on ignore.
Lemme be blunt here, a lot of newbies are actually practicing what they may have learned for a while and they need practice to be perfect. Some of their posts are informing, the only problem is that they've not learnt how to properly construct and format their posts effectively. We will be better with time, please just let us breath some fresh air cos its not easy trying to belong in a forum as massive as this.

Well, there are some newbies who know the right place and how to post, and they post in the right place. I also think that maybe they have enough knowledge, that's why they try their best to post in the right place and qualify. It's true that basically a newbie doesn't know much about anything and might already have a good idea of the forum, that's why they go to the right board and post. There are many such newbies who know about everything and how to proceed, they also have enough skills and have a prior idea about what forums are. I have noticed a lot of newbies who talk about bitcoin and trading in different ways in order to qualify. And what platforms they have good knowledge about, so they may not be called newbies they are very knowledgeable but in the forum they want to convince people as newbies. But there are some newbies who don't understand the forum can be explained and taught about everything.

Is really good to express how you feel about something especially things you don't know about but whenever you have that opportunity to share that idea you have about something say it without hesitating because you might not know who you're helping.
Some of these members who come online just to talk more about crypto should continue talking more about it and even making it look like a seminar, like let the conversation be more helpful especially to those who wants to engage in trading or investing, but using this word shouldn't be implied (newbies stop teaching) it kills their morale, let them say what they have to say and you put them through too, to me I see many newbies who are desperate to say something about what they know concerning trading or investment.


I still ask, what if some of these newbies knows more than we think? Let's leave the rank newbie aside, don't you think some of these newbies might know what they're doing but some of us find it hard to acknowledge what they have to offer because they're called newbies?
Forget the merit and ranking up, some don't have that in mind not that the merit and rank up ain't important in the Forum but they have this aim of talking more about crypto than having merit to rank up (like some don't even know how some certain things works in the Forum), can't say what we all have in mind but some don't care about the merit, that's what I think.