What position you make more profit, buy or sell?

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Quote from: Franctoshi on May 20, 2023, 12:51:20 PM

This is an interesting question , for me I don't really think that there's a particular direction that favours more either Buy or sell, but rather mainly depends on your strategy and the opportunity which the trader is seeing in the market at any given time. I have seen some traders did say that selling is more profitable than Buying. When I started new as a trader, I was rather a good buyer than a seller but now I'm good at finding opportunities on both directions even more on the selling side, so someone can be more profitable at selling position today and tomorrow become a more profitable trader at buying position, verse varsa. However, all falls back to being the direction that the trader finds more profitable to him/her.

Perhaps, buying alone can't give you the profit that we are looking for, we need to sell them to make it possible.
I don't know what makes that question because if we have to analyze carefully, buying and selling are the tools to generate profit. As we say people just hold but they never make any profit from it unless they sell them at a higher price.

And my answer to that question is, none of them as they have worked together in order to earn a profit.

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This is an interesting question , for me I don't really think that there's a particular direction that favours more either Buy or sell, but rather mainly depends on your strategy and the opportunity which the trader is seeing in the market at any given time. I have seen some traders did say that selling is more profitable than Buying. When I started new as a trader, I was rather a good buyer than a seller but now I'm good at finding opportunities on both directions even more on the selling side, so someone can be more profitable at selling position today and tomorrow become a more profitable trader at buying position, verse varsa. However, all falls back to being the direction that the trader finds more profitable to him/her.

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When it comes to crytocurrency most of my profits come from buy positions, sometimes it is hard to make any profit from selling ,overall making profits generally depends on the market conditions and one's style of trading some people are good at both while some are only good at one.Better to just go with the one you are very good at.

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It is always dependent on the market, it is very obvious, right? Then the type of order, regardless of whether it is to buy or sell depends on it, it is the market that dictates that result, in other words it is relative.

At the end of the day what interests you is to see a positive return. That is to say, it is something circumstantial beyond believing in sensations or perceptions of which position is the one that leaves you the best profit.

One day it works for you another day it doesn't, you don't live from trading with the result of a single position.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

What position do you make profit more and why ?

I'm not sure why I did it, but a lot of the trades I made did opt for short positions. just making a simple analysis but I very rarely place long positions. The analogy you mean makes a lot of sense, and that's what happens in the market when we always pay attention to it.
maybe when we are in a bull market, this can allow us to open a buy (long) position. of course, it also has to do with asset selection.

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Buy. I had a really bad experience with sell (shorts) in the past when I was new. It was basically something I did daily, I couldn't even break even most days due to how bad I was at doing it. A few months later I stopped completely and only after like a year did I start going for buy (long) instead. While it is slow, it does generate some profit at the very least from the time I started to this date. If I were better at shorting then yea, there's probably more profit there, but I'd say it's a lot more stable and better for me to keep at it with long positions instead.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

What position do you make profit more and why ?

There are some statistics counting this for you on a trading platform, and if there is a trader that still noticed the position that earns more for him, then such is not yet a good trader. All traders should think about is how to enter the right direction of the market whether buy or sell and short or long term. It is all about making money, not taking position records, and market changes.

I've lost count of how many markets have traded and the number of buy and sell positions I'd entered. I can't just imagine myself bothering my brain with that. Traders should be flexible and dynamic, the music the market plays is what you dance to.

Even the trading platform that can record such will have the months/years that buy positions would be more and sell positions would be more, so why waste your time on that?

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

So as a trader, I have discovered that there is a trading position that I get more comfortable and better chance for profit. This position is sell position. Yes, I have noticed it that I make profit more in sell position than it is for buy position and the reason for this I can not reach a reasonable or logical conclusion on. What I notice is that I have higher trust to get some flesh in the market while on sell mode despite I use the same ndicators and analysis for both buy or sell.

Can you give more details on how often you trade when you trade the most of your sell trade with profit in comparison with buy trade. I read some part of your analysis that it might be the trend which makes you profitable on sell side since the price action downward is high probably than upward since greed fear index is biased on fear side so only few buy on time like this.

On the other hand if this is not related to the trend then it might be the psychological effect. Selling is very frequent in every trader since trade involves money that trigger fear when the price is going down. This is why a trader makes easier to sell at loss than in profit because greed makes us hold more while fear push us to sell. These are the factors that proves how sell orders is more dominant in normal days and bearish season unlike buy trade which only seasonal and highly related to bullish trend.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

What position do you make profit more and why ?

It depends on the strategy and the understanding of the market and its volatility. To be honest I pretty much make profit in both positions, but with short positions I have made far more profits than long ones. I must say that to make a profitable strategy has cost me a lot of losses, but with time I gained experience and courage to stick with the strategy and modify the parameters of some technical indicators and speculate the market. After that everything is going well for me.

I think that shorting is far better than longing if you know the market very well. Because I have been doing it for a long time now and I must say that the thing is really profitable. But, you must know hedging technics in order to safely trade with a short position otherwise you will get liquidated soon. The pumps can be dangerous sometimes and you might lose a lot if you're not careful during trading.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

Or could you say I'm more focuse at the bear time to get a proper signal for the second law of gravity relating to object with mass that fall downwards Grin

What position do you make profit more and why ?

It's probably a yes for me. The reason why some people make more profit in trading while others encounter more losses is because those that make more profit either notice a winning strategy that works for them or keep trying it over and over again until they feel it's the best. maybe because they see more profit than loss with that strategy, but those who face more losses probably don't have any strategy yet or fail to realize what works best for them. So if the sell position makes you more profit, that is because you chose that position and you have fixed yourself in that position, but for me, between the buy and the sell positions, there was no side I let escape me. If there is no chance to make a profit in the sell position, there might be a great chance in the buy position, so I just can't let that chance slip through my fingers without placing a trade there. I almost make a profit with both positions, and it works so well, but the thing here is that I have not yet traded recently; I took a break for almost a year now due to some other activities.

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Quote from: Wiwo on May 19, 2023, 05:43:33 PM

Even though you mentioned that you profit more in opening sell positions other than having to buy more, I may have a different opinion about that because if your entry price was above average and at the selling point you are going below average in asset DCA value it means selling at that position will not give you satisfaction since you will be on auto deficit due to price changes.

Either you don't understand my simple question or I don't understand what you have said. I didn't ask for a comparison of the position that I make profit on but I ask a direct question on your more comfortable position that you spot out for profit in your trade. I didn't see that confusing to understand and most replies followed through to the question.

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By being long(buy) — simply because I make a huge majority of my money by simply buying spot then holding for certain amounts of time. I have far higher success this way(and I assume most people will) instead of actively trading. I sometimes make days to a week-long short positions on certain shitcoins though.

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It’s always easier to make money buying than selling. Basically when you buy it can go up forever when you sell or short it can go against you forever and you can have a big loss. When you buy the most you can lose is what you paid for it.

Shorting certain alt coins has proven to be fatal especially in a bear market. You cannot under estimate how much a alt coin can be pumped. Imagine shorting PEPE a few days before the Binance listing. Would of been a massive massive loss for shorts.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

Guys my question is simple and it is for others to know or learn. Moreso it should be fun for us to discuss over it. In this discussion, if you are speaking in the favour of a position it means you are automatically speaking against the other position at least this is exactly my own situation.

So as a trader, I have discovered that there is a trading position that I get more comfortable and better chance for profit. This position is sell position. Yes, I have noticed it that I make profit more in sell position than it is for buy position and the reason for this I can not reach a reasonable or logical conclusion on. What I notice is that I have higher trust to get some flesh in the market while on sell mode despite I use the same ndicators and analysis for both buy or sell.

So far the only reason I can give is that sell order is fall time or season as we know with bear. Then if the sell signifies fall time, I use to relate it with the second law of gravity, like an object with mass/weight that is falling down towards the earth. In this when I spot the sell position it just gives me that kind of comfort that whatever that has mass when thrown up most fall down and that the spotting of the sell order is that time for falling.

Or could you say I'm more focuse at the bear time to get a proper signal for the second law of gravity relating to object with mass that fall downwards Grin

What position do you make profit more and why ?

The strategy that I created years ago can make money either way, however it is way more profitable when it generates buying signals than sell signals, this is why I simply ignore those sell signals as I have never liked the idea of going against the monster trends which this market can generate.

So it is interesting to see someone that follows the opposite approach when they trade and they still make money with it, proving once again that almost any strategy as long as it is backed by common sense and by discipline can make money if you follow it no matter what.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

Guys my question is simple and it is for others to know or learn. Moreso it should be fun for us to discuss over it. In this discussion, if you are speaking in the favour of a position it means you are automatically speaking against the other position at least this is exactly my own situation.

So as a trader, I have discovered that there is a trading position that I get more comfortable and better chance for profit. This position is sell position. Yes, I have noticed it that I make profit more in sell position than it is for buy position and the reason for this I can not reach a reasonable or logical conclusion on. What I notice is that I have higher trust to get some flesh in the market while on sell mode despite I use the same ndicators and analysis for both buy or sell.

So far the only reason I can give is that sell order is fall time or season as we know with bear. Then if the sell signifies fall time, I use to relate it with the second law of gravity, like an object with mass/weight that is falling down towards the earth. In this when I spot the sell position it just gives me that kind of comfort that whatever that has mass when thrown up most fall down and that the spotting of the sell order is that time for falling.

Or could you say I'm more focuse at the bear time to get a proper signal for the second law of gravity relating to object with mass that fall downwards Grin

What position do you make profit more and why ?

I think it depends a lot on where you buy ie what is your buy point and then sell it to whom and at what profit.Sometimes you can find a currency at a very low price, but most people sell it at a slight premium.Some people hold a little and earn good profits.If you get the token at a low price, you can make profit from it at a high price, but if you get the token at a high price, then you will get less profit.So I think the posiyion of buying is the most important factor in profitability.Supply and demand also play a big role in this, if the supply increases, the price will decrease and if the demand increases, the price will increase.

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I don't like either of them, they just work on the right trend. Drawing this conclusion actually requires some evaluation of trading results. Sometimes a person is always in a good mood when the market is trending up or based on his preference and analysis habits in the spot market where he more accurately predicts the next green candle, so he only opens long positions on every trade.

Quote from: Strongkored on May 19, 2023, 09:02:19 PM

In spot trading isn't a selling position the most profitable? because it means the trader is realizing a profit after the asset has increased,

The op is clearly asking for a position in futures trading. There are no sell (short) positions in spot trading, because "sell" means ending the trade (no more positions).

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

So as a trader, I have discovered that there is a trading position that I get more comfortable and better chance for profit. This position is sell position. Yes, I have noticed it that I make profit more in sell position than it is for buy position and the reason for this I can not reach a reasonable or logical conclusion on.

As a trader, you can not sell if you don't buy previously with Spot trading. With leverage trading, you can sell first, buy later with Short or buy first sell later with Long. In general, to close your position, you must have the pair of buy and sell, you can not have one but don't have another.

With leverage, if you don't self close your position, exchange will do forced liquidation to complete it for you.

You must not use Leverage as it is more risky than Spot. With any trading type and position, don't start it if you see risk is bigger than chance to get profit. Ratio of Profit : Risk should be 3 :1 at least. Risk means your cut-loss price.

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the position that made me make big profits is related to the season. in the previous bullish season I sold, where I bought it in 2019, so bought during the bearish season. the maximum profit I got for buying at a low price, but did have to wait a few years to sell it. in long-term investing what is needed is good emotion, where we can control it to sell it on time and of course we will buy it on time too. but I do it gradually, both buying and selling, so I can get a decent price, I usually place sales on pre-formed resistance, so there are several areas that can be made for sales. Likewise, support is used as a reference for buying areas

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Quote from: palle11 on May 19, 2023, 05:21:20 PM

What position do you make profit more and why ?

In spot trading isn't a selling position the most profitable? because it means the trader is realizing a profit after the asset has increased, while a buying position is a position where you try to take future opportunities to sell it when it goes up, unless your selling position is due to end losses due to assets that keep going down. No matter how big the increase in assets that we have as long as it hasn't been realized, it's still not a profit as well as a decrease even though it hasn't been realized it's still a loss. Experiencing profits in buying positions can only be done in futures trades not spot trades.

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Honestly, I find the sell (short position) so much easier than the buy (long) position and most of my trades are shorts even in an uptrend.

Reason is, if it's not a bull run, long positions take time to build profits but when the price is dropping, we do get long and quick red candles in a short time Wink

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