what should a newbie do 1st on this forum?

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Quote from: Mr.sprin on March 09, 2023, 12:30:39 PM

the point is that beginners have to read a lot in order to gain knowledge about bitcoin and dig up new information so they don't miss the information circulating, this is the main key for beginners, in my opinion.

Of course learning that will be very helpful. But this is forum, there are rules and I tend to agree that newbie welcome thread is way more useful than jumping right into random discussion.

Newbie or beginners must understand the rules and procedures for using the forum before they start their journey. They couldn't just agree, reply to random threads, and break the written rules. So the main thing that makes the most sense to me is to understand the forum rules and their usage instead of just replying on random topics. As a result, newbie questions and general discussions about the same thing like [how to rank up or get merit] will no longer be made by many newbies across different boards.

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the point is that beginners have to read a lot in order to gain knowledge about bitcoin and dig up new information so they don't miss the information circulating, this is the main key for beginners, in my opinion.

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The first thing a newbie should do in this forum platform is to learn the dos and don'ts in this forum regarding the restrictions and rules that this platform has.

Then learn to explore each topic category that exists in this forum as well of course. For you to know the sections you want to study first, don't immediately go to technical matters unless you know something about technical matters.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

I am still confused, what is the ideal brand-new or newbie account to do 1st before creating any post and thread?

1. Create bitcoin address and stake it here: Stake your Bitcoin address here
2. going to Beginners & Help and learning all about forum on sticky post

Because when staking the address, the newbie account must have a bitcoin wallet where that information has on sticky post.

As I feel, many members here don't know anything about bitcoin, they don't know how to create a bitcoin wallet, but very experienced with metamask and trust wallet, which I think is a very strange person in the world.

It is always a problem for newcomers to join this forum and begin to discuss without thinking how to approach me.
The set of newcomers that falls into this problem are the ones that were introduced by someone. The person might have told them how best to approach rhe forum and it will now put them in confusion.

An honest newbie that discovwred this place randomly from internet would always want to ask questions and learn from there.
And such a newbie can easily integrate into the forum. To me this is a conversation community. There is no way to join the conversation only to know what is happening and learn.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

1. Create bitcoin address and stake it here: Stake your Bitcoin address here

Until the account becomes valuable, I don't see any use for that. Consider losing this account. This is still a throwaway account. If I do not log into the account, leave it and never come back or if anyone hack it and take the ownership then what am I going to lose?

Nothing.

It's not about value,
We have to look at other perspectives.
I wrote that for the long-term investment.
If a newbie or account like you learning to sign messages (where exchange or online wallet can't do that), I really sure this step will make you save and always think shield from any scam trick in the future.

we know bitcoin and crypto-related are very vulnerable to scams. and the biggest scam are from the exchange or wallet where you don't own the private key.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

1. Create bitcoin address and stake it here: Stake your Bitcoin address here

Until the account becomes valuable, I don't see any use for that. Consider losing this account. This is still a throwaway account. If I do not log into the account, leave it and never come back or if anyone hack it and take the ownership then what am I going to lose?

Nothing.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

I am still confused, what is the ideal brand-new or newbie account to do 1st before creating any post and thread?

This forum is a forum where all kinds of discussions are done. So a user should first know which board to discuss which topic. Means which board is applicable for which topic otherwise they will go to the wrong board and do different types of spamming. And must be aware of forum rules

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1. Create bitcoin address and stake it here: Stake your Bitcoin address here

This is a good step and in case of any problem with the account like (hack or locked) it will be possible to recover the account using that bitcoin address.

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2. going to Beginners & Help and learning all about forum on sticky post

If any user wants to ask any question then he can ask in this board and different members will help him. So this board can also be important for a new user. But if a user wants to learn different things from the forum then he must go through the whole forum and learn different things by his own efforts.

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In real life when someone gets or buys a new gadget they don't understand or know how to use, first instinct is to use the manual to get around the item and then proceed with using it.. Same concept should apply on the forum,read the pinned message's to give you the do's and don'ts of the forum and then proceed.. For some it will be a hands on experience and that works for just don't put yourself in trouble with plagiarism which might have been ignored on other forums.

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Think so 1st of all newbies should ask for a non-collateral loan (min. 500$) from Shasan Grin

Not even a bank gives loans to its first time customers, out of curiosity how did you arrive at this Huh

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Read this and that — I personally find it overwhelming. Here is what I'd suggest.

if you really like it here, stick around. Have questions? First do a Google search (add 'bitcointalk' term in it if you want your query to be found here) — I find it better than our own forum's search. Can't find answer? Create topic. Engage in topics where you actually feel like doing so.

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Quote from: SeeBiscuit on March 03, 2023, 02:45:40 PM

You gave the newbies the BEST start possible. My life changed when I staked my address at that thread, I'm currently experiencing an issue with ledger nano x that is preventing me from re-staking my addy after losing my account temporarily (thought I lost it for good but I didn't give up).

that was I mean, I try to suggest newbie staked his address here first because that is an initial foundation to continue the bitcoin world. it becomes an important entrance to this forum. So if the newbie is able to sign a message (offline wallet) with his bitcoin address, they can manage his found without 3rd party exchange, or an online wallet where the newbie never owns the private key which makes him lose forever his bitcoin, and makes a noise on scam accusation board.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

I am still confused, what is the ideal brand-new or newbie account to do 1st before creating any post and thread?

Newbies should be more concerned on reading sticky post in B&H and Meta,so that they can understand how things are done here. Posting should be the last thing on their mind because if they take their time to read,they will have so many ideas on what to post.

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

As I feel, many members here don't know anything about bitcoin, they don't know how to create a bitcoin wallet, but very experienced with metamask and trust wallet

This shouldn't be a problem,since they are new and don't read,they might not know the most secured wallet to use. On the other side some of them are here on a different purpose and not to be part of the forum activities, based in their selfish desires.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on March 03, 2023, 03:53:08 PM

Every beginner on this forum should first and foremost read the forum rules before any other thing, this is very important as it helps equip them with knowledge about the forum, and from the rules, they can learn to stay away from doing things that could have their account banned.

Personally, I think they the idea of staking a bitcoin wallet should come much later when the user have started Ranking up, this is based on the fact that the main purpose why we are required to stake a bitcoin address is to be able to recover our bitcointalk account just incase we lose it to hackers or so, and I believe that no hacker in their right mind would be interested in hacking a newbie or even a junior member ranked account, so the idea of staking a bitcoin address should come much later when the user have become an established user of this forum with a rank higher than newbie and junior member..
This is just my thought and opinion though.

I think it's okay to sign bitcoin message since Newbie or Jr Member, it's an early stage of learning for new users on forum. I remember about this, OgNasty has invited many newbie to sign the message and rewarded them with merit. I was one of the newbie doing it at the time, see the topic: [Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?

This means you don't have to wait to rank up and become an established user to sign messages. So even newbie can do it for security and whatever. The thread is now inactive, but will probably be bumping when newbie notice.

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Every beginner on this forum should first and foremost read the forum rules before any other thing, this is very important as it helps equip them with knowledge about the forum, and from the rules, they can learn to stay away from doing things that could have their account banned.

Personally, I think they the idea of staking a bitcoin wallet should come much later when the user have started Ranking up, this is based on the fact that the main purpose why we are required to stake a bitcoin address is to be able to recover our bitcointalk account just incase we lose it to hackers or so, and I believe that no hacker in their right mind would be interested in hacking a newbie or even a junior member ranked account, so the idea of staking a bitcoin address should come much later when the user have become an established user of this forum with a rank higher than newbie and junior member..
This is just my thought and opinion though.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

I am still confused, what is the ideal brand-new or newbie account to do 1st before creating any post and thread?

1. Create bitcoin address and stake it here: Stake your Bitcoin address here
2. going to Beginners & Help and learning all about forum on sticky post

Because when staking the address, the newbie account must have a bitcoin wallet where that information has on sticky post.

As I feel, many members here don't know anything about bitcoin, they don't know how to create a bitcoin wallet, but very experienced with metamask and trust wallet, which I think is a very strange person in the world.

You gave the newbies the BEST start possible. My life changed when I staked my address at that thread, I'm currently experiencing an issue with ledger nano x that is preventing me from re-staking my addy after losing my account temporarily (thought I lost it for good but I didn't give up).

My life changed when I read through this forum.
My life changed when I read the wise words of the old-timers and veterans of this forum.
My life changed when I started talking about bitcoin.
bitcointalk.org is the top of the internet, and the whole world needs to know about it in my opinion.

Good job. lol. Cheesy

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There are many people who don't read, that's why you see many questions on the beginner & Help section, like when I begin using this forum there were lots of questions in mind to asked but what came into my mind was why do I want to ask questions while there have been lots of threads and topics created here for people to read and understand what the forum is saying about, most times I feel ashamed of how people asked some silly questions knowing too well that they have asked those questions over times here.

So to cut the story short, all newbies are meant to familiarize themselves with the rules, don't and does of the forum, along side they will come across staking their wallet as well.

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Quote from: m2017 on March 03, 2023, 11:33:14 AM

It is unlikely that newcomers to the forum begin their journey by reading the rules on the bitcointalk.

On the other hand, some newbie also know how forums work before they even start posting.
So not all newbies have to be the same, some of them are already familiar enough with online forum that understanding the rules and how different forum work is the most likely thing for them to do since signing up.

Quote from: m2017 on March 03, 2023, 11:33:14 AM

Usually they immediately create a topic on the question they are interested in, without even checking the existence of similar topics with already available answers to their question.

That's just the most common thing most newbie do, but we shouldn't generalize that all newbie are the same.
Not even all newbie are interested in discussing something useful with other users on the forum, creating topics and responding to other users' posts. While they are only very focused on making money as bounty hunters.

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Quote from: Rikafip on February 28, 2023, 05:29:12 AM

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

I am still confused, what is the ideal brand-new or newbie account to do 1st before creating any post and thread?

Ideally, they should spend some time reading the rules (especially if its their first time on a forum) but this is just a discussion forum, there are no rules what you have to do.

It is unlikely that newcomers to the forum begin their journey by reading the rules on the bitcointalk. Usually they immediately create a topic on the question they are interested in, without even checking the existence of similar topics with already available answers to their question.

If you dig a little deeper, many people just read the forum without creating an account here. After a while they do it.

Quote from: Rikafip on February 28, 2023, 05:29:12 AM

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on February 28, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

As I feel, many members here don't know anything about bitcoin, they don't know how to create a bitcoin wallet, but very experienced with metamask and trust wallet, which I think is a very strange person in the world.

That's probably because vast majority of people that are new to crypto are altcoiners. They often (wrongly) think that its too late to invest in bitcoin so that makes them turn to altcoins instead.

True, there is such an illusion that bitcoin is already expensive. Satochi is still cheap ~0.000224$. Can buy 10, 100, 1000. It's not too late to do it.

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I would also say that if you are seeing it as open discussion forum then you don't need to follow any particular procedures and just start with engaging in different conversations putting forward your point through your posts or if not then gain knowledge with various threads on forum.

But most newbies run behind merits in the first case in order to rank up because they want to take part in signature campaigns to earn some amount and this is where they make mistakes by copy pasting some articles or violating any other forum rules which is why it's advisable to go through forum rules in the first case and then start your journey on the forum.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on March 01, 2023, 10:19:34 PM

what the newbie must to noted is, they came on bitcoin forum where they must know that very basics of bitcoin like offline wallet. If they know that basic knowledge I really sure they be save, they will not lose the money and be scammed here.

The reality is for a lot of new users is they're coming to the forum to learn more about Bitcoin, and they don't have a whole lot of knowledge. Some might have just heard of Bitcoin, and don't own any. In fact, I'd probably say the vast majority of new users don't own any Bitcoin. That's alright, I don't believe I owned any when I first joined the forum.

Asking them to stake an address so early could actually be a security risk. They need to learn the very fundamentals of security first, and to be honest there's not much to protect early on when your account is new. So, I wouldn't worry about staking of an address. I've used addresses in the past that were online wallets, I've made that mistake, and I can guarantee many experienced users that are now using offline wallets or hardware wallets have used online wallets before. I feel these days, people are more aware don't get me wrong, but when I first joined I didn't really value Bitcoin as much as fiat, and therefore I didn't look after it nearly as much as I do today.

New users come here to ask whatever they want. If that's altcoin related or Bitcoin related it doesn't matter to me.

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I received many arguments about point no.1, yes I know almost newbies here don't know about bitcoin what else of creating wallets. (but expert on smart contract, defi, dapp, doge which look funny to me)

what the newbie must to noted is, they came on bitcoin forum where they must know that very basics of bitcoin like offline wallet. If they know that basic knowledge I really sure they be save, they will not lose the money and be scammed here.

Almost newbies come to crypto world, especially on this forum got scammed by keeping the fund on online wallet, exchange or any third party., they don't know how to sign a message offline and stake it here.

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