Topic: What will happen when we will die ? - page 3. (Read 701 times)

I should point out that observation of death does not equal experience. Can anybody here claim to have personally experienced death?

Now you are talking about suicide bombers.     

Consider for a moment, if I could convince you that there was life after death, a far better life than your miserable one. Then when you marched out on the battlefield as a poor foot-soldier, destined to die like thousands of others, you'd be marching forward toward the Afterlife.

You wouldn't even notice your life was miserable and you were a poor foot soldier. The enemy would think you were crazy.

Would that create a competitive advantage on the battlefield? If it would, then since today's culture is winning combination of techniques developed over thousands of years, then we would have those ideas in our culture today.

Oh wait, we do...

I choose not to believe you. You have no way of knowing what you are claiming, and there is zero evidence to support your position.

I am not interested in what other people think, feel, believe, etc. If you have evidence to support your position I'm all ears, but all evidence suggests there is no such thing as life after death.

It is not as simple and i know i will not be able to convince you because its a spiritual concept but believe me all of us will be wake up again for the judgement day. The value of this world life is almost zero as compare to the ever lasting life in Heaven or Hell, where there will be no death.

No, we absolutely won't be placed into the dirt to be decomposed by worms and bugs. Ask yourself. Is that you going down the drain every time you use the toilet? I mean, do you feel yourself going along through the piping after you flush? It isn't you. It's simply some stuff that used to be part of you.

The point is, at death, you have been changed. The part of you that is your "self" or "identity," is where? Nobody knows for sure... or even if it exists any longer. God hasn't explained the details that we know of.

While we are still alive, the resurrection is the thing we should be focusing on, so that we do what it takes to have a right resurrection.

This is most likely going to be a spam board for people in campaigns, but I'll throw my two cents in on this highly philospophical question.

Well the most basic level of that is that we're going to be put into the dirt and slowly decompose. It's a great process folks!

But further, do we go to Heaven or not? Who the fuck knows, and no one on this board or on this Earth that is still alive is going to be able to tell you.

The only thing that we all know is that we're going to decompose and bugs are going to eat us. That's the only thing anyone can fully confirm about death.

You will know it if you are totally dead because how others will know there are no proof that you can exactly can say on what happen when you die.  I think you will the one who can know it but don't try it immediately because you cannot comeback because of your curiosity.

There are many religion or beliefs of the religion but I think all of us doesn't know what will happen.

The question 'why do people die?' can be answered quite easily. I covered it above, but I can go at it from a slightly different angle if you want. I really wish people understood evolution better. Obviously there's more to it, but it's easier on this forum to approach it piece by piece. Let's discuss mutations.

Mutations - negative in this context - can manifest at any time in your life.
Early-onset mutations (those that cover the period of your life when you are at breeding age) are selected out. If you carry a mutation that is going to kill you in your teenage years, you won't reproduce to pass the mutation on.
Late-onset mutations (those that occur after breeding age) - guess what? Exactly. They are not selected out. You've already passed on your genes, and any late-onset stuff is included with that.

In this way, as we go from generation to generation we carry more and more crap that manifests as 'elderly' diseases. We are time bombs waiting to go off (after we've passed breeding age that is). Our bodies pack up because nothing has happened to prevent it.

Because humans suffer from trauma and disease, and human cells are imperfect at repairing/replacing themselves and so slowly acquire mutations which will eventually impair their functioning or kill them. This isn't some mystical concept like you seem to be making it out to be.

How long did the last 13.77 billions years feel before you were born? I imagine it's fairly similar after you're dead.

1. We die because of evolution. It's complex, but it's all about investment of finite energy. Your genes put some energy into keeping you alive, and some into the creation and survival of your potential descendants. If your genes put 100% effort into keeping you alive, you wouldn't have any children and so the genes would not survive. And even with 100% investment, you'd still succumb eventually to a random accident. It's statistically inevitable. Have a read of this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/13/biologically-speaking-this-is-why-humans-are-born-to-die/#245648084a48
2. Rich and poor - society, and to an extent your own actions.
3. Gravity moves the Earth. We are falling around the Sun, due to gravity.
4. Rotation of the Earth causes day and night.
5. Appearances different - evolution.
6. Fate different. Circumstances, our own actions, and blind chance.
7. You and me - we are complex organisms that have evolved from simple single-celled organisms over billions of years of natural selection and countless minor random mutations.
8. You have no control over when you are born.
9. You potentially have some control over when you will die. Circumstances, your own actions, blind luck.
10. No-one's orders. Pure physics (which begets chemistry and biology).
11. There is not 'one who created us'. There is not a scrap of evidence for that. Whereas the evidence for evolution is overwhelming.
12. If there was a God, he'd be showering me with sMerit for all the work I'm putting in on these P&S threads.

What will happen when we will die?

The soul and spirit will separate from the body.

The souls of Jesus-believers will go to a temporary paradise with God, there to await the resurrection.

The souls of the others will be held in darkness, like a stasis of time, to await the resurrection there.

At the time of the resurrection, the bodies of all people will be recreated into what their adult form was or would have been, and their souls/spirits will re-enter their bodies.

The declaration of their judgment will be done by Jesus, and they all will understand the rightness of their own judgment. Then will come the sentencing.

Well that is quite accurate, from a physical point of view. Probably the OP meant a spiritual, beyond physical point of view. This is the very origin of religion, a level of sentience that makes you ask this question.

What happens when AI is smart enough to ask the same? 2001 explores this, HAL9000 ponders, and fears it like most living creatures, it even fights for survival, to no avail. Tho it was later turned back on, no harm done? Odyssey was a nice ship...

Ah yes, humans, well this has been discussed in offtopic, but whatever we think, we are only going to find out (or not) after the fact... Think we will return to whatever we come from? Maybe life repeats? Maybe not? How long lasts eternity when you can't feel it? Time and spaces collapse. They say the same conditions were experienced in this universe at the "big bang" singularity. How about parallel universes? You'd think we could transverse those?

This planet isn't going to exist forever, we already know that. In fact the history of humanity is minuscule compared to, say, Dinosaurs (they existed far much longer). And the history of the planet itself dwarfs life on it.

If there is no life after death, then why people die ? Why not people remain always young and healthy and never die ?

Who made you rich and poor and whatever will happen tomorrow, who is controlling it ? Who is moving the earth and bringing the Day and Night ?

Who made our appearances and fate different from each other ? 

Who are You and Me ?  Do you have control on when you should be born and when you should die ? By whom orders all this is being done ?

The one who created us, will make all the people alive again and then you might remember what i just told.

Always hilarious
I've been wondering for a while whether to get a sticker pack of them from xkcd
... only $5 but I will have to pay like $50 of shipping to the UK ^{[citation needed]}

But still no one proved that there will be a life after everyone's death,maybe its far from our understanding but with the current science and technology development we are not able to provide anything which makes religious thoughts or sayings were right.

On Christians beliefs, when you die, your soul will be judged whether your destination is heaven(paradise) or hell(damnation). The basis of whether where you'll be going is your good deeds on Earth plus the bad things you did. And then when you go to heaven, you can't see those people that are in damnation and everyday life is so happy. In damnation, everyday is suffering and you can see people on heaven is always having fun while you are suffering all day and you're dying everyday.

I also read a book and it says that the moment you die, many devils will try to get your soul and pull you down and your guardian angel might be the only spirit that might help you and get those devils out of your way. And it says that the guardian angel will be the one that will guide you to purgatory in which you'll be judged.

Interestingly, absence or otherwise of electrical signals is not part of the criteria for diagnosing brain death. Certainly absence of electrical activity as measured by an EEG would strongly point towards brain death (although such a phenomenon can also be seen under general anesthesia - particularly if also undergoing intra-operative hypothermia as one might during cardiac bypass), but brain death can be diagnosed even in the presence of electrical activity.

Furthermore, one can experience death of the cerebral cortices, which are responsible for all higher brain functions - all sensory processing, all voluntary movements, speech and language, memory, etc. - whilst still having an intact hindbrain, which is responsible for involuntary actions - sneezing, vomiting, heart rate, blood pressure, etc. Patients such as this are particularly difficult to make decisions for regarding withdrawal of treatment; although the "person" inside is dead, the body can continue to live for several years provided it is given basic nutrition.

There's a saying in the medical field that "You're not dead until you're warm and dead". Severe hypothermia has a protective effect on all body tissues, and they can survive for several hours in these conditions and still be resuscitated. The longest case that I am aware of is a patient who was "dead" for 9 hours before being successfully resuscitated.

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There is absolutely zero evidence to support the hypothesis that there is any form of life after death.

No-one knows what happens from a first-person perspective. But the science is quite clear. We all die and that is the end. The electrical signals in your brain stop, and that is when the mental 'you' ends. There are then just physical remains that gradually disappear. There is no more 'you', just as there was no 'you' for all the billions of years before your birth.

But this doesn't have to be a negative. I believe that the inevitability of death is what gives life meaning. We are defined by our actions. If your identity persists for infinite time, then your actions have no real weight. If you know you have a finite span, then every second of every day is important. Don't waste it.

You are wrong. This life is temporary and the life after death is real. Do good deeds in this life otherwise you will repent when you will be waked up on the day of Judgement by the Angels and be held accountable for your deeds.