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Topic: What Would Be Your Reason to Leave Bitcointalk? - page 3. (Read 2717 times)

hero member
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Do due diligence
People have left (and sold their bct accounts) when they experienced losses in crypto and were done.
There have been times when I've been away for months or a year but I'd have to be banned to leave.

If I got banned= I'd respect the decision. --don't even like saying that "out loud" Cheesy 
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3878
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
<...some truth revealed...>
Thank you. At least someone else felt the same, which I was feeling from long time. I just did not have words or times or whatever it is to get them together and get them out.

Being a newbie to this community is a sin! All these grate people forget that they were a newbie when they started. After introduction of merit we have seen so many so-called newbies (they pretend, actually they know the community well and the new account holder is not a newbie. It was created to take advantage only, and we all know what possible advantages they can expect). But those real newbies who do not have any idea of the forum, they just signed in to get to know the community, they see all hates against them. You can not do this, you can not do that, you are scammer, you are a piece of shit wtf!

If anyone comes up with a business idea, then they are scammers. We built up a community which is driven by hate and insecurity. We hate to see others are joining the community, we hate to see a business is launching without giving us a share, what the fuck is this escrow anyway. Haven't we seen what TMAN and gang did against Best_Change? Where are those people now. I see some of them now are in the same very campaign, LOL. Why you felt so anxious and tried to ruin a business at the beginning? Insecurity, expectation of getting merits, showing a fake sense of caring and active member.

We are a community now driven by merit, scam hunting, tagging, punishing newbies. How many bitcoin holders we have now?

CH is not the only one, but I have seen many good users turned into rogue. Why? Put their shoes on, you will not find yourself different from them.

Hey! After reading you, I feel guilty of being a manager. I am not going to defend myself or other managers. There is an ecosystem of doing business and as a manager I found myself lately a fit to it. I can not speak for others anyway.

Update:
Sorry @Pmalek, just read the thread and all about LOL
When there will be no bitcoin, when I will be completely out from crypto, then I may leave this place for good.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
Then he joined another platform named Fiverr and he is now established there.
Fiverr is a platform for freelancers and businesses employing contractors for various types of work. It has got nothing to do with cryptocurrencies except if your friend is a developer who writes code for crypto projects. Foul language would never be a reason why I would leave. You shouldn't care what other people on the internet call you or how they address you. I also can't remember a case where someone was bullied or insulted for no reason whatsoever. But then again, I don't spend much time in the Reputation and Scam Accusations subs where that might be happening.
full member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 110
Bad languages from forum members.
One of my friends leave bitcointalk forum for this reason. Then he joined another platform named Fiverr and he is now established there. We should respect all members of the forum regardless of their rank.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1009
Degen in the Space
If I got banned and If I died.

I spent a lot of time here earning merits and creating quality posts that will help other members, so it's a little tiring to do that again, and it's difficult to find unique posts that have a chance to be merited and ranked up. I know it's not all about the ranks, but achieving status is also an accomplishment that shows you've done something worthwhile in the forum. So, if I ever get banned, I won't register again just to do the same thing again, and I'll lose purpose because I'll be starting from scratch, and being banned means you've done something wrong, so face the consequences.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
What "author"? Are you talking about me, the thread starter?

It's probably a jab at hilariousandco, not you.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
The name is the same as the person.
Say what now?

The worst is that the author mentioned that my account was banned.
Say what now x2? What "author"? Are you talking about me, the thread starter?
Looks like English isn't you main language, so this could be some weird google translation from your mother tongue. Maybe you were trying to say that the worst thing that can happen is that you get banned.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 7
Death. Though I may still haunt the forum after I die. Haven't decided yet.

The name is the same as the person. Very humorous. There is only one reason why I left the forum. Bitcoin no longer exists and becomes history. In other words, Bitcoin exists and the forum is gone, so I will leave here. The worst is that the author mentioned that my account was banned.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I chopped my list for a little while but I’m sure I’ll remake it again soonish..
Don’t know if it matters really..
TLM!

The only way to decentralize the Trust system, is if as many people as possible use it. Even (or maybe especially) if others disagree with them.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
BTC or BUST
Should never have put the temporary illusion of safety above personal liberty..
ie tagging and chasing away “likely scammers” and crushing the unique economic dynamic of account sales..

This forum started acting like protecting idiots is more important than letting users express their free wills..
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Oh right, the morons probably just threw their (saved from scam) money at one of the great 2017 ICOs instead..
I’m sure their filthy rich now thanks to all that saving grace..
~
You make some very good points here. As much as I like to prevent people from getting scammed, it doesn't work. If someone is willing to lend half a Bitcoin to a Newbie without collateral: let them! It's going to be an expensive but strong lesson for them, and I see no reason to tag Newbies for asking loans.
You also make a very good argument about the ICOs. Most of them are plain scams, probably created by the same small group of people, and they've earned billions of dollars from it. While any BS bounty token platform can spam millions of Twitter and Facebook links to promote their scam, they don't get tagged at all. For some reason it's even a loophole in the spam-rules, and the forum allows it.
The DT-system seems to protect against small scammers, while the biggest ones get away.

Thanks

Seems that post got me removed from SMs trust list, but that’s ok..

I chopped my list for a little while but I’m sure I’ll remake it again soonish..
Don’t know if it matters really..
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Should never have put the temporary illusion of safety above personal liberty..
ie tagging and chasing away “likely scammers” and crushing the unique economic dynamic of account sales..

This forum started acting like protecting idiots is more important than letting users express their free wills..
~
Oh right, the morons probably just threw their (saved from scam) money at one of the great 2017 ICOs instead..
I’m sure their filthy rich now thanks to all that saving grace..
~
You make some very good points here. As much as I like to prevent people from getting scammed, it doesn't work. If someone is willing to lend half a Bitcoin to a Newbie without collateral: let them! It's going to be an expensive but strong lesson for them, and I see no reason to tag Newbies for asking loans.
You also make a very good argument about the ICOs. Most of them are plain scams, probably created by the same small group of people, and they've earned billions of dollars from it. While any BS bounty token platform can spam millions of Twitter and Facebook links to promote their scam, they don't get tagged at all. For some reason it's even a loophole in the spam-rules, and the forum allows it.
The DT-system seems to protect against small scammers, while the biggest ones get away.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 16328
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
I am dedicating a fair amount of my daily routine to the forum.
Please bear in mind that I have a life outside of it: a work to put food in the platter, human interactions (I am definitely not an AI, as other members).
But if I look back at the past I can see a balanced relationship with the forum: I got back as much as I put into learning from other users, stimulating my personal research on a new direction, expanding my knowledge on Bitcoin.

So until I am impaired from some very serious condition preventing me to post, I am banned from the forum for some reason (@nutildah, are you after me??) or for some also obscure reason I start realizing I get nothing back from the forum, I am afraid I will still be around or a long time.
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 37
This forum isn't what it used to be.
Back in the good old days of 2013-2014 it was the IT place for crypto. Now, not so much.
I'm noticing that most good projects, and by good i mean ones that actually do well (50x) in the last 2-3 years have no mention on this forum
Apart from strong bitcoin info, most altcoin info is just scams and moneygrabs.

I feel the same. Really good projects, or teams with excellent genes, do not promote projects on the Bitcoin forum. When making money or getting a bounty becomes the first appeal, those who do bounty plans no longer have the gold content, and a few simple questions are already obvious.



For pure bounty hunters, I would suspect that each of them will have many alternative accounts.

Here is a more detailed answer

Altcoin scams are emerging in endlessly, bounty hunters are full of tricks, it seems to be an industry chain, I am looking forward to the emergence of good projects, but I also hope that sincere bounty hunters will join the project volunteer team, and everything will return to reality.

The times are changing. It's not that I don't adapt to the times. The main reason is that I have become accustomed to forums. I will not leave, maybe death is the only reason.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 10
This forum represents my faith in crypto filed. I'll always believe in Bitcoin, blockchain and Satoshi. So...until death do us apart.
I feel happy here. people of high ranks are not smug and I've never been laughed at for my poor merit. What we have is pure discussion.
I won't leave here forever but only for days, weeks or even months coz I have a job and teaching occupies much of my attention.
If I get super rich, I won't leave since wealth needs management; if poor, I won't as well because I need to snap out of it by my coins.
sr. member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 346
Bitcointalk has seen many of its old-timers leave and never return to the forum again. There are many reasons why people make such decisions. Still, dissatisfaction with something that happened on the site could be one reason to give up on it.

Forums as mediums for discussions aren’t as popular among the new generations any more. Social media and platforms like Discord or Telegram have significant communities nowadays. But forums still have their charms. And Bitcointalk will always have historical relevance as the place where it all begun.

A study conducted in 2019 shows Americans prefer to use discussion forums in search of reliable information. 88% of all respondents replied that they are members of online platforms. 72% believe that forums share much more trustworthy and reliable information compared to social media.

With all this in mind, I have created a poll. I am interested in finding out the reasons you would decide to leave Bitcointalk and never return here again. You can vote for more than one of the given options. 5 votes per user is the maximum.

The reason why I leave bitcointalk is my age getting old, because age  matters on how we did in our daily life when a person reach 80+ years old some of them experience common illness like Blurred in sight , dementia and being deaf.
But when I am still healthy and young there's no reason I leave bitcointalk.
legendary
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Merit: 5937
-If i started a business and i do not have much time to spend on forum.
Why would you not accept Bitcoin if you make a new business? It would be with your best interests right?
And where exactly he wrote that he wouldn't accept bitcoin if he started his business? How you even came to that conclusion?

You might wanna read the first post of this topic and @Imran232 again and you will realize that your question doesn't make sense.
legendary
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Why would you not accept Bitcoin if you make a new business? It would be with your best interests right?
I guess it depends on where the user is located. Accepting bitcoin in a country where hardly anyone uses it compared to one that is considered to be a crypto haven would bring totally different results and adoption rates. It would also depend on what kind of business he is looking to start. If the userbase is mostly people aged 50 or above, they aren't as likely to adopt a new payment method compared to those aged 30 or less who are looking to purchase some IT hardware. There is also the setup process, which isn't as complicated as people think, but it might still intimidate some.   
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
BTC or BUST
Merit killed bitcointalk because the only thing bitcointalk offered over reddit or any other crypto related platform was the ability to earn.
I'm not going to address most of what you said as I disagree, and its not entirely on topic. However, I think the statement above is, and you might actually be right. Okay, it most certainly didn't kill Bitcointalk, however I do believe it killed of a sub culture of the forum, which was account farming. Either for selling forum accounts or for participating in signature campaigns. Merit practically killed that culture off, because now it actually requires some effort, which not surprisingly a lot of users here aren't willing to put the effort in to reap the rewards.

There's definitely characters within the community that are still here, but maybe not in the most popular sections. I won't deny that we've definitely lost a lot of characters over the years, for better or worse. However, that's just how life is, and how other forums operate too.

Should never have put the temporary illusion of safety above personal liberty..
ie tagging and chasing away “likely scammers” and crushing the unique economic dynamic of account sales..

This forum started acting like protecting idiots is more important than letting users express their free wills..


How many countless good and intelligent users have been chased away because they “might” scam..

A new startup can’t come here and start a signature campaign for example without completely being bullied into “trusting” some escrow they have probably never heard of, so heaven forbid they couldn’t possibly scam some users willing to take the risk..

A new user can hardly post anything for sale here without being bullied into some 3rd party “idiot protection” scheme because OMG they might try to scam you..

A new user here can’t start lending on any sort of collateral because holy shot they might scam the collateral..

All new economics here CRUSHED by regulatory bullying in the name of “protecting idiots”...



You know what was great times here?
When I could lend against accounts collateral, with a signed staked address, having the signature state the contract clearly, and either profit on my loan or profit on the sale of the foreclosed account..
And y’all had to fuck that all up..
Heaven forbid one of the full member accounts I legitimately acquired and sold might scam some complete idiot..
I even started paying for signatures to advertise my business with my profits..

I’m glad y’all saved sooooo many imbeciles from getting “scammed” by shutting that entire thriving economy down..

Oh right, the morons probably just threw their (saved from scam) money at one of the great 2017 ICOs instead..
I’m sure their filthy rich now thanks to all that saving grace..

“Campaign/bounty managers”, oh those valiant pillars of our community, surely made their cuts off the countless ICO scams and casinos designed from the start to suck up every Satoshi they can..
What heroes..
So trustworthy..

These “managers” are held in such high regard, yet never deemed responsible for their outcomes, of the biggest scams and suctions of satoshis this forum has ever seen..
Yet on they go, and nobody will speak a word against them in fear they will be ostracized by them from getting their own chance to earn a couple satoshis advertising the next big Satoshi suck on offer..


You would NEVER have needed the “merit system” if you would have listened to what I have been saying for YEARS!!! YEARS!!
Quit swatting the spammer flies and take your fight directly the these shit “managers” and “companies/projects” that pay for the shit in the first place, causing its existence..

Nope.. Y’all too scared you won’t get your next chance at a paid signature, so you run around DOING THEIR JOBS FOR THEM and acting like you are so great for “busting spammers”, lowlife nobody shitposters, FOR the shit “managers”, while you suck up to them so you can get YOUR next shot at YOUR next paid signature..

“Look at meeee!!! I busted 20 alt accounts getting paid to spam this advertisement!! Aren’t I amazing!!!??!!”

Not impressive at all..
You should have wrecked that manager and the representatives of that project FOR employing all those shitposters, and just ignored all of those worthless dime a dozen spam accounts..
Oh no, but then that manager or project might not have hired YOU in the future.. Can’t do that eh?

Just bully all newbs instead of battling the sources..
Pays in plenty of merits now too.. Keep catching them alts!! Fast track to DT1 being the heaviest handed regulatory fist against the little guy you can.. Go get that status!


I see more positive trust left for the destruction of economics than I do for the participation in it..
“Such a great alt buster! So many tag!+++”

You didn’t really accomplish shit.. 1,000 more spring up for every 100 you slap down, with unknown collateral damage of good users, while the sources of the problems asses are kissed clean..

I could say a thousand more things about the hypocracy and misdirection of those appearing to be in “leadership” positions around here..

Not much more than a popularity contest for the eyes of those who sign those signature transactions..


Down she goes!!


Think you guys can come up with any more ideas (like the merit system), that target all the low hanging symptoms of the problems, but yet simultaneously absolves all the sources of the problems from any guilt whatsoever?
Ready to hear your bright ideas of what more regulation you can impose next..

P.S.
BTW..
I have more respect for Cryptohunter than I do for half of the current DT..
He is much more of a “true legend” than half of these newb fucks who can’t rub 2 satoshis together, but yet choose to spend their time virtue signaling chasing merits, rather than actually doing something productive that might net them some of their very own satoshis some day..

Too bad CH called out the almighty Lauda making himself the enemy of every coattail rider near and far..

Don’t respond to that “troll” newbs..
That “troll” has been around the block 21 times before you even got off the tit, and you won’t even know it because you don’t know, but everyone else that has wondered around the block a time or two knows that he absolutely destroys you with occulted (purposefully hidden) facts more times than not, and you don’t even know to know it..
legendary
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You seem to have a "beef" with someone or something, but you should let that kind of judgment cloud your mind to the point that you refuse to hear anyone else. If you have reasons to believe that you've dealt with injustice, gather up your evidence and open a report on the rightful thread.
Don't encourage him. Roll Eyes

Some people just have to hate everything, you can't help them. It seems that he finally left. He hasn't been around for a few weeks, but he will be back. When he comes back and starts posting from this or a new account, you will recognize him with help of keywords such as "truth", "verifiable", "undeniable", and similar. You can't miss it. It's always a wall off text attacking the forum's admins, DT members, the trust, or merit system.
Yeah sorry about that Pmalek. Thing is these kind of arguments that he gave and especially the way that he said them just triggers something in me mostly because people can't have that attitude in life. But yeah, at least one good thing is that he keeps is way of thinking and wording consistent, so I'm sure it will be easily spotted if he ends up bringing back another account or coming back. I wonder, did he left because of the merit / Trust system?  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 363
Merit: 323
Infographics save lives
-If i started a business and i do not have much time to spend on forum.
Why would you not accept Bitcoin if you make a new business? It would be with your best interests right?
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