Topic: What Would Be Your Reason to Leave Bitcointalk? - page 4. (Read 2720 times)

I can't exactly what would be that reason. Because i have knowledge about my future then i could be change it too.

I don't know about that but from all this option it could be happen anything :
-If i got permanent ban.
-Death.
-If i started a business and i do not have much time to spend on forum.
-If i lost my this account.

Or there might be some reason but now i can think anything what type of reason it could be. But i wish didn't have to leave bitcointalk. Because i want to stay with bitcoim till my last day and if i want to then i need news, people’s opinion and many expertise research and where i will get this obviously in bitcointalk then how can i leave bitcointk?.

Only if I banned or due to age factor and family responsibilities but both these things are less likely to happen so I will stay here as long as the forum is active and the discussion is going on related to cryptos.

Another one reason I may leave the entire crypto is only if the bitcoin reaches zero and no one is ready to use it anymore.

Are you sure it's not because you can also earn money here through signature campaigns that you're not yet leaving the forum? I am not gonna that's part of why I don't leave and the other is that it helps me with investment strategies so when I eventually go away, I would still get something out of it. Plus, there's a lot of unforeseen events that might lead to a permanent absence in the forum but I do hope that it's not a life threatening thing.

Don't encourage him.

Some people just have to hate everything, you can't help them. It seems that he finally left. He hasn't been around for a few weeks, but he will be back. When he comes back and starts posting from this or a new account, you will recognize him with help of keywords such as "truth", "verifiable", "undeniable", and similar. You can't miss it. It's always a wall off text attacking the forum's admins, DT members, the trust, or merit system.

I would really like to know how the case study behind that assumption, just out of curiosity. The merit / trust systems should not influence if a user uses more or it doesn't use the forum - most of the time they reflect a users personality - those that have good intentions, good personality and an overall positive atitude towards helping others - and they end up being rewarded with either merit, trust, or both. Also, a member can still post freely even with the merit / trust system, they aren't blocked from posting anywhere - as long as it's not spam / low content / goes against the rules. If they ended up leaving it wasn't for sure due to the trust / merit system.
You can have all the reason in the world, but if you enter with that kind of stance in discussions - "Everything I say is true and undoubted and undeniable" - you'll loose your reasoning in no time. You seem to have a "beef" with someone or something, but you should let that kind of judgment cloud your mind to the point that you refuse to hear anyone else. If you have reasons to believe that you've dealt with injustice, gather up your evidence and open a report on the rightful thread.

My reason to leave the forum by choice would coincide with my decision to become a recluse,
to withdraw from society and become self suficient, lead a simple life and escape the pressures
of life and the consumer type society.

or if the membership or activity became so low that there was very little conversing happening.
 

I haven't thought about leaving for the time being. If there is a reason, it may be that I am no longer in the encryption world. The only reason why the forum attracts me is that the precipitated content is very precious. Many of the posts I have read are from a long time ago. This is the biggest advantage of the forum.

Cut the excuses. The merit / trust  system has driven many away that could have been retained and been useful.

Just say that you want to run away.

Lol at telling me how negative and terrible my posts have all been,   but now don't dare to transparently analyse them publicly and find out there is not one core point that I have made that is anything but the raw and unpopular truth.

I'm a huge fan of bct and what it has achieved all things considered. Of course it isn't anywhere near what it once was.

Keep yourself out of drama by confining your posts to things that are demonstrably true and avoid posting bogus and misleading garbage in response to my undeniable and independently verifiable truths.

I lost interest in your post as soon as I saw the words "debunk" and "verifiable truths". I have seen it dozens of times already. I also didn't read the thread you linked to. I am not interested in the quarrels you have with other forum members nor do I take part in dramas and conflicts. If you want to talk Bitcoin, there are appropriate boards for that. Keep me out of stuff that don't concern me. No one forces you to be here if you hate every single aspect of this forum. 

This may sound like a hostile reply but it seeks only the truth.


Ah the standard chipmixer spammers reply...  works fine for me because I can spam chipmixer.

Here are some questions and challenges for you  the answers to which will demonstrate you're talking rubbish.

1. Read this thread and then try to debunk it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-most-important-thread-you-can-contribute-to-this-yearno-kidding-5088852

This thread is actually understating the damage of merit since merit was not at that point directly being conflated with trust.

2. Find a post made by myself or any of my alleged alts that was ever conclusively debunked or seriously challenged that relates to the obviously undeniable independently verifiable and insoluble problems with the current merit and trust control systems and their direct impact upon free speech here. I mean a ban is not the only threat that can create an echo chamber. But threats of banning have been issued to people before.

The joke is that simply presenting independently verifiable truths will get you slathered in bogus red tags from chipmixer spammers who wish to protect their merit and trust cartel that allows them to cream off the higher paying sig spots.

3. If you have been here since may 13 and are not wealthy enough to allow someone else a chance with chipmixer ? What does that say about you?  If you are not a multi millionaire, that demonstrates terrible judgement or if you are already superwealthy then it is extreme greed to deprive others of a sig spot.


4. It is untrue that you need to break the rules to be banned or threatened with a ban.
I notice TOAA documented all of its deleted posts and then challenged anyone to present a solid argument as to why they were deleted.
The mods ran off and when they did try to provide an explanation it was immediately debunked and shown to be bogus.
These kinds of bogus metrics can be used as a weapon to propose a ban.

Telling inconvenient truths or even presenting indisputable evidence of scamming or scam facilitating by DT or others can get you tagged and banned. They will get you tagged for sure.

The forum is toxic at its core. People will not be part of a system where scammers are able to punish whistleblowers and this is supported by admin who join in and support the scammers against their whistleblowers.


The truth is the truth. It can never be negative. The truth needs to be accepted and then the appropriate solutions need to be implemented.
Relating unpopular truths is the most positive thing one can do for this forum.

Lack of fair playing field in terms of earnings or even being able to reveal independently verifiable truths or evidence without punishment are 2 key reasons some will leave.

Of course becoming wealthy will bring more opportunities into range that take up time.

But it's a spiral.  One of the most interesting members was banned, people that I notice seemed to post directly in response to him then didnt bother posting. People that came to read their interactions and join in now and then didnt post much.
The less interesting and enjoyable content to read the less you visit.

There a numerous reasons some of which were beyond the forums control that lead to its demise but merit was the cancer especially when it was conflated with trust that polluted its core and made it toxic.

It really doesnt matter much because bitcoin and crypto in general have outgrown bct.
Bct did its job great, so what happens to bct now is of small import.

It is useful for perhaps very technical discussions but how many of the 200 or 300 online are super eggheads and boffins and how many are chipmixer sig spammers regurgitating each others comments over and over to max their posting payouts is anyone's guess.

Bitcointalk shouldn't be judged on what it has become now. It should be admired as the birth place of bitcoin, alts and quite possibly the largest paradigm shift in many peoples lifetimes. Finding bct was the best thing that happened to many people myself included.
So we must all be grateful for bct and the job it has done to foster the adoption of bct and alts.

I see a few bad eggs spoiled the recent years but they were just capitalizing on some poorly conceived and implemented attempts to prevent spam.

I do believe a smarter control for the bots and spammers would have seen bct grow and harness the energy from all those that will spend hours and hours even if they have little natural ability or creativity for 50 bucks...without letting their negative side infiltrate those that want to contribute quality and reasonable value.

The issue we have now is that alts have noticed bct is dead and no longer launching here.

There isn't really much point to fighting over how the left over scraps of bct turn out.

Perhaps it should gradually aim to forget "size" or number or posters and focus on becoming a tight knit technical community that purely encourages egg heads and boffins. Cut back more to the valuable hardcore and any projects that spring from that.

In that case just delete all sigs and see what real enthusiasts remain.

In my lifetime, I should not leave this forum, because I like to communicate with some friends in this forum, collide with ideas, and get some useful knowledge. Actually, I came to this forum not to make money. I want to learn some interesting encryption knowledge from it, and hope that this forum will exist for a long time, because there are too many treasures waiting for us newcomers to discover.

This has been my experience as well. I’ve tried to get acquaintances to participate here and learn about Bitcoin. They all pretty much go through the same pattern. They join and try to learn. Their questions are usually met with snarky responses so they attempt to offer goods or services that they provide for dollars that they are familiar with, get called attempted scammers and harassed, then never come back. I’ve watched this happen so many times. Lauda and Vod alone are probably responsible for chasing away thousands of potential contributors here over the years. It’s crazy to see the moves made to empower users who literally go around trolling contributors here. It’s like we’re actively trying to maintain a good old boys club to be a echo chamber of yes men around those who are failing us all.

You don't have to tell them your username and problem solved.

All my IRL friends that are into crypto know that I am active on bitcointalk as I tried to "recruit" them, but I shared my username only with the few closest ones that I know for like 30 years. Unfortunately, I wasn't successful at all in my attempts to bring few crypto enthusiast here that I think would be a good addition, and some were active long time ago but have no intention to come back ever again, for various reasons.

One word: privacy! I wouldn't tell anyone IRL I use Bitcointalk.

This has the most votes in the poll:


Personally, I think most of the users in the forum are vulnerable to life struggles like we all do. One day, you might be active and eagerly focused in helping the forum grow, answering queries and helping people. Suddenly, life happened and you are not here anymore, no focus, no passion and no drive to carry on.
We can safely assume that most users today are here due to their own volition to help each other and earn while doing so.

Note: Taking a break can also help you improves your focus. Don't let anything hinder you from reaching your goals. (Take a break and don't quit)

Me too.  Whenever I happen to meet someone who is into crypto I often bring up the forum to see if they're someone I may have crossed paths with or that I may know something about.  I have yet to meet anyone who has ever heard of this place in the real world.  It's mind blowing to me because I always thought of this place as the center of Bitcoin activity.  Now it's a place people think is only for spamming for cash.  At some point it became more profitable while dealing with less harassment to spam here than actually put work into creating a product or service that would benefit the community.  Why deal with the trolls yelling scam and trying their best to harass you on and off the forum while you spend countless hours working on your passion, when you can just write some word vomit, collect a weekly payment and not give a shit?  This is all due to the atmosphere that's been allowed to persist, while those in a position to stop it would prefer to decentralize their responsibility to avoid personal responsibility, or what is known in other words as letting the inmates run the asylum.  

I mean if you're here in the forum for a long time and you already dedicated a lot of time to the forum or you already love here it's kinda difficult to just leave the forum without any reason.

When you're also trading the forum is a big help and even though I don't do a lot of questions or posts, I always answer the question but the forum is always handy when I don't understand something in some wallets like Electrum or when I need to have some opinions on an exchange or about my trading.

I think the common reason is just lack of time since we also have our own jobs and not everyone has the time to keep doing a post or give some time on the forum. And for some high ranks, I guess death.

There are people on various social media, communities in Reddit look for various services on the forum and mostly post them here.

The forum is not dying, Leechers without doing any Seeding are leaving the forum or are being kicked out for various reasons and the competition has increased and Spammers are decreased, I'm sure they'll find other community forums to throw their trash, This forum has already had enough.

Not to mention all who left with leechers there had been good people in the community that left because of life problems and it's not their fault.


Maybe he's referring to forums like altcointalk (Idk if that's the real name)

My reason could be if I leave this bitcointalk.

1. Death (this could be happened any time, no one knows)
2. Personal Security

This 2 could be my possible reason of leaving this lovely forum. Otherwise I can not think that there is a day will come in my life where I will forget/don't look at bitcointalk.

You completely missed the point I was trying to make, so let me try again. I didn't say that bitcointalk is not popular anymore, I was referring to @Laudanum and his claim that bitcointalk is dying, by saying that forums are not as popular as they used to be (and that's a simple fact) so no wonder that bitcointalk is not as active as before. Go check any stats, and you will see that post numbers are indeed lower than year ago, let alone 2017/2018.



Where exactly I mentioned other crypto forums? I said "various forums", and that didn't imply crypto forums specifically, but forums in general.