Topic: What would make you join a new community as well as here? (Read 255 times)

In my opinion a new community could be desirable only if it brings some unique value.
Crypto community in Twitter for instance gives me the fastest news and quick responses.
This forum brings the most qualified users together.
Unfortunately, I can't help you make up such unique value from top of my head. But I hope you get the point

Thank you for a really well thought out answer, and I'm 100% with you on your sentiments about the time of token sales moving on.

Really the idea for adding that was more to provide value tools for some people, and apart from that the rest of the forum is more generally about technologies and their impact instead of anything to do with token sales.

This might actually be the answer I was looking for from creating this thread - the idea of filtering a majority of the bullshit with a Swiss referendum and then using something similar to proof of importance sounds like a potentially solid governance system.  Like you mentioned, with the right design it could be fairly autonomous in how it's carried out as well, and to my knowledge there's no other online community that operates like that.

I think some time would need to be taken to make sure that, as you pointed out, everything doesn't meltdown because of self/group self-interest and tribalism, also that decisions which are clearly trolling and/or fatally-damaging to the community aren't able to be implemented.  It serves no-ones purpose to be so liberal in how governance is managed to allow for malicious actions to be possible.

Possibly that could be one of the virtues of owning the token I've set up as well, and possibly the token could be a tokenized representation of the importance of actions that are performed, as long as people can't just game token production in order to have controlling voting power.

But then that's where status can come into play as a modifier for voting, probably with an exponential relationship between status points and influence when voting so that there's a higher barrier to have more influence and that those who have it have had to provide substantially more positive activity in order to get there than others.

Appreciate the input on this Gent, if you don't mind once I've got something close to a blueprint of this I might run it by you to get your thoughts

Honestly, it's not always about making a money scheme for why people join a certain community or forum but also "interest". Back then, I didn't even know such a system exist in a forum. I've been involved in a different types of forum subject, general, family-oriented, business, bicycles, anime, pets, toys or even those forums with only less active users, etc. for over a decade now so when I enter crypto world, the first thing I search if there's a community or forum about this.

People, as long as they see that your forum is worth to visit, surely they will come and read the contents here. Money-making is just a bonus.

Anyways, with the subject, you want to integrate, I think people nowadays aren't that interested anymore in ICO, IEO and STO things so I believed it's not a good idea. And for pump alerts, honestly, only a few do have an interest in that. As time goes by, people now realizing that there's no such thing as legit pump signal providers.

But it doesn't mean you must not push your idea. If you are really eager you can test the waters and see the result for yourself. Of course, you have to accept whatever the result is despite the effort you will apply to build it.

Don't take it as an advertisement but to explain it easily, see this website: 1stminingrig.com
The owner put a huge effort in making of this website and posted a lot of very interesting posts with a lot of details regarding to mining (how to set up miners, where to buy miners, which part suits the most to specific GPUs, how to overclock them and etc). I highly believe if he wouldn't be alone and had more time and resources for it, he would be capable of making forum and in overall he would create great community for miners.
This is my answer to your question.

Every vote being binding would likely be impossible. There's a ton of good suggestions here that never get implemented. I'm sure plenty are straightforwardly ignored for no convincing reason but we don't know how hard some others are to put into action. What seems a piece of piss on the surface might be a site breaker. Someone has to put the notion into actual action.

And since crypto is so tribal and mindless there's a strong chance of one tribe descending and shouting down all the others. Then again you could play with a forum equivalent of proof of stake. If the seniority of your rank gave your vote a greater weight it would go a long way towards making it saner.

NEM uses proof of importance. The accounts with the greatest weight in decision making are the ones considered most active and useful to the network rather than the biggest ones.

You could have something similar to the Swiss referendum system where if enough signatures are obtained you're obliged to hold one by law which would cut down on the plainly crap proposals.

Could make for a very interesting experiment and if it was designed carefully enough it could be fully sustainable without the need for a heavy hand.

Out of curiosity what's your thoughts on the idea of an open source community, like pretty extreme shared governance sort of thing - voting on all significant decisions for the community etc

Thanks very much for a valuable and well thought out comment - I appreciate it.

I have no idea what could make me to join new crypto community and leave Bitcointalk. Definitely not IEO, ICO, STO, pumps & dumps and similar shit - it's on very bottom of my priorities list. I simply find almost everything what I need here on Bitcointalk.
I agree with bitmover thoughts. Money isn't a reason why I came here. I was just interested in Bitcoin and crypto and when I signed up I didn't even considered that Bitcointalk can become into extra source of income.
If you want to have quality community and successful project, I don't think that you should look for people who want to make quick buck only. Best example why you shouldn't is Cryptotalk forum. You need higher standards.

Agreed, people have different reasons and it's valuable for me to understand which reasons are more predominant than others.


Sure it's definitely not a unique concept, but then concepts don't necessarily need to be unique in order for them to be valuable to people.  Thank you for your subjective opinion regarding whether other people would be interested.

Also if you think that "you want build a community but about a pump group?" is an accurate representation of my statements so far, you might want to re-read this thread and take a little bit more time in order to be able to properly digest it.


A group being relating to money isn't necessarily juxtaposed to also serving socially-beneficial purposes.  Perhaps more importantly, I was putting forward a question to other people, asking which of these two scenarios takes priority for them.  This one is a bit over my head I'm afraid.

Thanks anyway for your input however.

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I get what you mean regarding Bitcointalk - it's an information-first community, with the side benefit of generating an income if you provide value here.

Thanks for your comment and insight.

Me myself will be focused to the content of the group itself. If the group has a lot of information so in this case I can learn everything quietly I'll be content on the group.

Such as this forum, I feel this forum has a lot of informatiom especially about cryptocurrench and I can say that this forum can be as a first source for those who learn cryptocurrency.

Additionally, there is some reward for those who give a good contribution to this forum and most likely you can make it as a source income and I think there are some people who have made this thing.

Sometimes went someone joins to some forum or group, they have a different reason example a tech group :

• Have a problem that needs to be solved.
• Want to learn about that tech.
• Looking as reference.

Someone already creating that, went the new thread of bounty was created the bot will inform at telegram about that thread.

No one will be interesting about this, you want build a community but about a pump group?

Funny went you mention this, but also you want created a group/community related to he money.

Cheers again for your input.

My thoughts regarding targeting the community around money making is definitely nothing like "I will pay you to post shit", in fact the incentive isn't about how to coax people into making posts directly, although it's clearly working for cryptotalk.

Focusing on money making can mean that the content itself is predominantly targeting methods of generating profit/income, and that information in and of itself is provides the value, not a payment.

The value in a place like BCT is obvious, it's the wikipedia of crypto combined with the ebay of crypto.  If it was just one or the other there would be a clear opening for a project to step into the missing role, but both are covered and covered well.

The tech sphere as a whole (more than just crypto, all modern/new technologies) doesn't yet have the thing that BCT is to crypto specifically.

More to the point, my way of looking at it is that money making can be ultra grimey - as has happened often with crypto, but also money making represents peoples' incomes they can generate online - without having to do manual labour somewhere, in any part of the world.

That's the aspect of the promise of new technologies that's so appealing - the way it will change lives, not just the way we can latch onto it and make a quick buck.

At some point the true money making potential of emerging technologies will become as accessible to "normal" people as something like SEO or social media marketing, which is done by stay-at-home mums along with multi-million dollar companies.

Right now, techs like AI, VR and 3DPrinting aren't there - even crypto (which is by far the most accessible of all emerging techs) is still not there.  But there's a huge opportunity to those who build the bridges between cutting edge technologies and normal people that would like to earn a wage, might have lost their truck driving job to automation, and don't have a degree in computer science or economics.

That's the way I see it anyway, and what I'm thinking I'll try to drive the community towards.

Any further thoughts on this are also welcome, and anyone that can see the potential in what I've just written and would like to discuss bringing this about feel free to drop me a line on telegram at @VESYX

The evidence is splattered all over here and of course cryptotalk.org. You'll get no shortage of people in with that approach, how could you not? But all they'll do is keep spurting shit all over each other without paying the slightest attention to what anyone else writes.

If you make money out of that and they make money out of that then so be it. Don't expect anyone else to join or anyone at all to stick around when the money runs out. And I'm doubtful any advertiser would consider spending money there when the entire demographic is nothing but broke spammers.

As for the original question, I hate Reddit but go there because it's much faster than here for news. Stuff attracts huge threads within minutes whereas here it may not be mentioned at all or take a week or two to pick up steam. Something that tapped into that would attract me.

This is super valuable and straight up feedback, so thanks to everyone who has posted their perspective so far.

I'm interested that to begin with there seems to be a consensus that the only way to attract people to a new community is via providing sources of monetary/financial/entrepreneurial value, but then at the end a few opinions saying the exact opposite - focusing on money will lead to a degraded kind of community and the substance of the content is the key.

Anyone else's take on this would be really helpful.

Fewer shitposts. Still a high amount of activity. Lack of the latter is guaranteed to turn me off. If I come across somewhere with a handful of posts in a few days I leave as it's going to be a boring and out of date read.

Somewhere that focuses on members making money is certain to be a worthless fuckhole. The money making aspect is a offshoot of this place, not the founding principle.

Whatever token you offer if the token is still in the development stage it will be a shitcoin and difficult to attract people to register on your forum. Even more so if the forum is filled with spammers who make the quality of the forum ugly, it will be increasingly difficult to develop. Professional moderators are required.
If the quality of the content and the forum environment are good, it will not be difficult to attract visitors.

I am not interested in "ICO, IEO & STO" or the topics that talk about creating more useless coins. What matters is the quality of the content and therefore the intelligence and extent of the culture of members/posters.

You can develop your community in one of two ways: either you pay to the trusted people to post in your forum and thus attract a lot of new members who want a solution to their problem.
Or make it attractive to discussions: either by providing many of the benefits that people are searching for or in association with advertisers to pay money to them.

It will became a shitcoin also , if you look to what other token price right now you will have idea where it will go. Having a token as a reward  will not increase visitors or users of that website. Unless the token you want to give have a good price in the market.

This isn't what made me join this community. Maybe it is what keeps me logging in all the time, but I didn't came here the first time for this reason.

I discovered this forum because I had a genuine interest on btc.
 This place has history, and most important for newcomers: knowledge and discussions.

Want to make a nice forum like this one? You need a project behind it, to make people discuss that project. Your project cannot be bitcoin or cryptocurrency, because that's this forum project, not yours.