There is a short story on the death of fiat in this months forbes and it touches on why its not the best idea to let government restrict big bills due to making it easier for terrorists and drug dealers to move money. Then it goes on to talk about crypto and how government would then be able to dictate where and when we spend it. Was kind of shocked to read this in Forbes as it was mostly talking about the state of billionaires around the world.
Think we need a balanced approach and not all cryptocurrency or we do face the risk of all out control over our spending.
Topic: What you need to know about the Panama Papers - page 5. (Read 7449 times)
We haven´t really seen anything yet. There´s millions of emails and other documents. It´s very likely that some of that is about outright criminal activity, bribes, tax evasion, drug trafficking et cetera. Wikileaks will most likely put that up in a searchable form. Then some very big bombs will go off.
Meanwhile Canada wants to purchase the damn document to skim through. That would be so typical paying millions for something people can see for free. This is going to turn into a bloody gong show,can just feel it coming hard.
I guess this has to turn attention on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Maybe these convulsions are the start of the death of fiat money. Time will tell. When every transaction can be traced on the blockchain it´ll probably lead to a much more open, fair and honest system.
We haven´t really seen anything yet. There´s millions of emails and other documents. It´s very likely that some of that is about outright criminal activity, bribes, tax evasion, drug trafficking et cetera. Wikileaks will most likely put that up in a searchable form. Then some very big bombs will go off.
Meanwhile Canada wants to purchase the damn document to skim through. That would be so typical paying millions for something people can see for free. This is going to turn into a bloody gong show,can just feel it coming hard.
We haven´t really seen anything yet. There´s millions of emails and other documents. It´s very likely that some of that is about outright criminal activity, bribes, tax evasion, drug trafficking et cetera. Wikileaks will most likely put that up in a searchable form. Then some very big bombs will go off.
Some one pointed to the Soros Foundation being responsible for the leaks in another thread.
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/mission-values
Think a lot of this off shore money will be given lip service in many parts of the world and we will go back to business as usual.
Even the people getting caught are rubbing the issue off as either a misunderstanding or ignorance of the laws.
They where saying in Canada it is not illegal and threw a number up that made little sense for tax avoidance.
Figuring they missed out on around 8 billion dollars per year in revenue through these tax havens.
But just last year they pointed to the underground economy,specifically grow ops(Pot) in my Province alone stating it was a 2 Billion dollar industry that went untaxed. So you factor in construction and the number has to balloon,think 8 billion is a small number and its much bigger.
For them to crack down it would most likely just be the banks making more restrictions and flagging cash accounts for closure.
It will just push more people into the gray area of being non banked well the rich continue on making profits abroad.
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/mission-values
Think a lot of this off shore money will be given lip service in many parts of the world and we will go back to business as usual.
Even the people getting caught are rubbing the issue off as either a misunderstanding or ignorance of the laws.
They where saying in Canada it is not illegal and threw a number up that made little sense for tax avoidance.
Figuring they missed out on around 8 billion dollars per year in revenue through these tax havens.
But just last year they pointed to the underground economy,specifically grow ops(Pot) in my Province alone stating it was a 2 Billion dollar industry that went untaxed. So you factor in construction and the number has to balloon,think 8 billion is a small number and its much bigger.
For them to crack down it would most likely just be the banks making more restrictions and flagging cash accounts for closure.
It will just push more people into the gray area of being non banked well the rich continue on making profits abroad.
Who are responsible for the leak and what do they want in exchange? Losers and winners. Always. This is the question one should never forget
Noting that Costa Rica and elements of Panama were the 1980's villian to Ronald Raygun's USA, it is probable that US cyber infiltration efforts will have looked toward Panama ever since it went online, but not necessarily gone public about what dirt they could find. Has anyone seen a revelation against any prominent US citizen from these files yet? Now rather than get bogged down in local wiretap requests to which the Panama law firm would always say "no, you can't go on a seize-n-sift fishing expedition to look for commies and Brinks-Matt robbers", I think that somebodies' white-hats just decided to make the whole stinking lot available to the most prim and proper uninvolved nation whom they could think of, so they sent it to the Krauts. In this hypothesis, one of Noriega's henchmen and biggest stinking crooked revenue raising firms goes down, and for a white-hat being right according to everyone else about guessing who was a henchman of evil would be reward enough.
By the way, I'm a Brit, and quite a few British Overseas Tax Havens stand to lose their biggest money collecting activity if offshore tax avoidance goes the same way as dodo farming.
How about making genuine long-term agricultural productivity improvements for the middle east tax-deductable, so that any rotters who'd prefer to send money overseas than pay tax can do so forthwith.
It´s disclosed on the website of this journalist operation investigating this leak who funds them. It´s Open Society, USAID and a third one.
George Soros?? To my knowledge the source is still unknown (and will likely stay that way if he/she/they are lucky).
As for the anti-Russia element, that's just standard operating procedure for Western msm. No conspiracy there....was a but disappointed with The Guardian having a anti-Putin article but hey ho, least the infos out there.
As for the anti-Russia element, that's just standard operating procedure for Western msm. No conspiracy there....was a but disappointed with The Guardian having a anti-Putin article but hey ho, least the infos out there.
Well, a foundation of George Soros and USAID (CIA) are funding that consortium of investigative journalists so there´s a glaring connection there.
Fair enough, is there any actual evidence of this foundation funding the consortium?
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Breaking news:
Uefa offices raided by police after Gianni Infantino named in Panama Papers
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/06/uefa-offices-raided-swiss-police-panama-papers-gianni-infantino
Panama Papers reveal offshore secrets of China’s red nobility
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/06/panama-papers-reveal-offshore-secrets-china-red-nobility-big-business
nothing else,i really want to know who was on that list,is there people from my country,or there are celebrity or athlete who listed on that file,its make me corious.
There´s a crime busting operation down there in the Balkans, the name escapes me, which is also funded by Soros and it focuses mainly on crimes of Putin and the Russians and other enemies of the West.
It doesn't make me interested because i hate this damn game. When someones want to put out someones, leak those dirty papers. Whom serves? To US profit.
Hmm... Looks like this was foreseen by Moscow to some degree:
https://www.rt.com/news/338338-panama-papers-putin-outrage/
And apropos Assad. Saw a headline on the state-payrolled Norwegian newspaper along the lines of "Investigation uncovers: that's how Assad fuels his war machine". Never mind that the Syrian army is fighting for survival of their state... Someone is really peeved at the beating their pet-terrorists got in Syria.
https://www.rt.com/news/338338-panama-papers-putin-outrage/
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One user asked why the Independent was using a photograph of Syrian President Bashar Assad alongside President Putin, when neither man was mentioned in the trove of documents.
In response, another Twitter user stated: “Because they don't want to blame ‘friends’ like King Salman or Poroshenko...”
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The smear campaign against Putin comes a week after his press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that the Western media intended to launch a new slander attack against the Russian president, while he also expressed regret that reporters’ professionalism is often “sacrificed to political demands.”
“Another piece of spin, which is claimed to be sensational and objective, will happen in the nearest days. We have received some excessively-rich requests that, however, in their form were more like questions at an interrogation,” Peskov said.
He explained that the letters contained some personal questions about Putin, as well as questions about the Russian president’s family, his childhood friends and some businessmen.
“They are repeating themselves. ‘Is it true that the amount of your personal accumulated wealth is about US$40 billion?’ ‘Is it true that you possess gigantic residences, mega-yachts and other assets?’
On Sunday, Germany’s Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) released the biggest leak in journalistic history, posting 11.5 million documents from a Panama law firm online and providing “rare insights into a world that can only exist in the shadows.”
In response, another Twitter user stated: “Because they don't want to blame ‘friends’ like King Salman or Poroshenko...”
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The smear campaign against Putin comes a week after his press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that the Western media intended to launch a new slander attack against the Russian president, while he also expressed regret that reporters’ professionalism is often “sacrificed to political demands.”
“Another piece of spin, which is claimed to be sensational and objective, will happen in the nearest days. We have received some excessively-rich requests that, however, in their form were more like questions at an interrogation,” Peskov said.
He explained that the letters contained some personal questions about Putin, as well as questions about the Russian president’s family, his childhood friends and some businessmen.
“They are repeating themselves. ‘Is it true that the amount of your personal accumulated wealth is about US$40 billion?’ ‘Is it true that you possess gigantic residences, mega-yachts and other assets?’
On Sunday, Germany’s Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) released the biggest leak in journalistic history, posting 11.5 million documents from a Panama law firm online and providing “rare insights into a world that can only exist in the shadows.”
And apropos Assad. Saw a headline on the state-payrolled Norwegian newspaper along the lines of "Investigation uncovers: that's how Assad fuels his war machine". Never mind that the Syrian army is fighting for survival of their state... Someone is really peeved at the beating their pet-terrorists got in Syria.
George Soros?? To my knowledge the source is still unknown (and will likely stay that way if he/she/they are lucky).
As for the anti-Russia element, that's just standard operating procedure for Western msm. No conspiracy there....was a but disappointed with The Guardian having a anti-Putin article but hey ho, least the infos out there.
As for the anti-Russia element, that's just standard operating procedure for Western msm. No conspiracy there....was a but disappointed with The Guardian having a anti-Putin article but hey ho, least the infos out there.
Well, a foundation of George Soros and USAID (CIA) are funding that consortium of investigative journalists so there´s a glaring connection there.
Nothing is going to happen. What happened after the offshore leaks of 2013? The information was hushed up, no one was prosecuted. The same will happen this time also. 90% of the politicians and the bureaucrats are corrupt. They will make sure that this time also, all the information will be destroyed and kept out of public sight.
i completely agree with you all these accusation over alleged politicians will be vanished by some forces then they will pretend victims of these offshore leaks but anyway this world will never be the same again..
I think all those leaked documents are a new version of wikileaks and serve to America's profit..
George Soros?? To my knowledge the source is still unknown (and will likely stay that way if he/she/they are lucky).
As for the anti-Russia element, that's just standard operating procedure for Western msm. No conspiracy there....was a but disappointed with The Guardian having a anti-Putin article but hey ho, least the infos out there.
As for the anti-Russia element, that's just standard operating procedure for Western msm. No conspiracy there....was a but disappointed with The Guardian having a anti-Putin article but hey ho, least the infos out there.
What is especially scary these days is that U.S. stocks and bonds are BOTH close to an all time high. That doesn´t make any sense at all. A booming stock market and therefore supposedly a booming economy can´t really co-exist with almost zero percent interest rates. At least not for long. Something has to give. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
It´s political but also financial. And of course the dollar and with it the price of U.S. Govt. bonds. Bond price and yield move in opposite directions. The higher the price the lower the yield and vice versa. It´s a huge debt load so it´s imperative to keep the yield down. One benefit of these leaks could be to scare money out of these Caribbean ratholes and into the U.S. tax havens. Into Nevada and other places. It´s a defensive measure for the dollar (and bonds) and since it´s a counter-trade to pretty much everything else it´s also an offensive measure.
#Panamapapers Leak and MSM as Weapon of Mass Disinformation: Info War vs. #Putin, #Russia, #BRICS Escalates
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/panamapapers-leak-and-msm-as-weapon-of-mass-disinformation-info-war-against-russia-putin-brics-escalates/
Sounds just about right...
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/panamapapers-leak-and-msm-as-weapon-of-mass-disinformation-info-war-against-russia-putin-brics-escalates/
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As far as I understand, the Panama papers leak is the most massive leak there ever was – bigger than Snowden leak. It mentions money laundering, tax evasion and offshore accounts by various world leaders, dictators, oligarchs and public figures. Ukraine’s president Poroshenko, Saudi king, Pakistani officials and David Cameron (or is it his father – apple doesn’t fall far from the tree?) made the list.
Nowhere in 11.5 million documents is there anything about Vladimir Putin. Yet, every Western MSM and Qatar’s Al Jazeera (both the state and publication some of the biggest US stooges) printed big Putin’s pictures on top of every article dedicated to Panama leaks, although articles were about someone else.
Interestingly enough, various UK publications printed Putin’s pics in their articles, implying Putin is the biggest money launderer there is, while THEIR OWN PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON is front and center on the list, along with his daddy!
This isn’t double standards and hypocrisy any more, of which US, UK and West in general get accused every day. This is lunacy and severe case of schizophrenia – a good mental institution very strongly recommended. Is it any wonder that their own readers rebel against such idiocy. I hear that after a public outcry, within several hours of publication, UK papers began removing Putin’s photos from their articles.
Let me emphasize that this post isn’t about the veracity and merit of #Panamapapers leaks. In my view, we need as much as possible disclosure of truth on all levels. But it has to be unbiased and honest truth. While the actual leak may be absolutely beyond reproach, the problem is the attempt to turn it into anti-Putin, anti-Russia, anti-BRICS circus.
What US, UK and other MSM do is this: they take the truth and then bait and switch it with a lie convenient to them, parading it as truth.
Come think of it… this may be done deliberately so that to distract the gullible public from asking inconvenient questions as to where the Western leaders’ and oligarchs’ money is hidden.
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As far as I understand, the Panama papers leak is the most massive leak there ever was – bigger than Snowden leak. It mentions money laundering, tax evasion and offshore accounts by various world leaders, dictators, oligarchs and public figures. Ukraine’s president Poroshenko, Saudi king, Pakistani officials and David Cameron (or is it his father – apple doesn’t fall far from the tree?) made the list.
Nowhere in 11.5 million documents is there anything about Vladimir Putin. Yet, every Western MSM and Qatar’s Al Jazeera (both the state and publication some of the biggest US stooges) printed big Putin’s pictures on top of every article dedicated to Panama leaks, although articles were about someone else.
Interestingly enough, various UK publications printed Putin’s pics in their articles, implying Putin is the biggest money launderer there is, while THEIR OWN PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON is front and center on the list, along with his daddy!
This isn’t double standards and hypocrisy any more, of which US, UK and West in general get accused every day. This is lunacy and severe case of schizophrenia – a good mental institution very strongly recommended. Is it any wonder that their own readers rebel against such idiocy. I hear that after a public outcry, within several hours of publication, UK papers began removing Putin’s photos from their articles.
Let me emphasize that this post isn’t about the veracity and merit of #Panamapapers leaks. In my view, we need as much as possible disclosure of truth on all levels. But it has to be unbiased and honest truth. While the actual leak may be absolutely beyond reproach, the problem is the attempt to turn it into anti-Putin, anti-Russia, anti-BRICS circus.
What US, UK and other MSM do is this: they take the truth and then bait and switch it with a lie convenient to them, parading it as truth.
Come think of it… this may be done deliberately so that to distract the gullible public from asking inconvenient questions as to where the Western leaders’ and oligarchs’ money is hidden.
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Sounds just about right...
Again. Who's doing the releasing and why?
George Soros is. Also USAID=CIA is funding the effort. Garbage media seems to focus most on those that the state department has grievances with. Of course there´s some small fry that get caught up in this.
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