What's the best way make your Bitcoin anonymous right now? "Mixers"?

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)

2- get the tor browser

3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:

http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion

4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

This is a 100% way, since I watched an interview with a man in uniform and he talked about exactly such a money laundering scheme.

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Quote from: DNBible on January 29, 2024, 06:21:53 AM

I've written a guide that might answer some questions raised in this thread:

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Thank you very much for what you wrote but here it seems that your guide will not be needed.

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If you want BTC without having it tied to some sort of KYC then the right way to do it has always been to mine it to a fresh address. It’s built right into Bitcoin. You can use p2pool type mining pools or go ham and get enough hashrate to mine solo. Using mixers is like playing Russian Roulette with your money.

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Quote from: aTriz on January 29, 2024, 07:32:07 AM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

Mixers are only banned from this forum. Mixers themselves are still working.

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

how should he swap them to keep them anonymous? using any centralized exchange would make them known to him again. which would kill the whole point.
I think A Good mixer is still better than all these hassles.

I just converted the bitcoins to Monero using Xchange over the tor browser:

http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion

and then sent them to a second Monero address. No need to use a mixer anymore.

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Quote from: aTriz on January 29, 2024, 07:32:07 AM

how should he swap them to keep them anonymous? using any centralized exchange would make them known to him again. which would kill the whole point.
I think A Good mixer is still better than all these hassles.

He has to use a privacy focused exchange for the btc <-> xmr trades.

For instance exch.cx

1. no typical kyc/aml policies
2. has an onion version, works without JS, no cloudflare
3. does not use 3rd party liquidity provider

You get to choose from 2 pools of btc as well; one having less chances of getting flagged by custodians but less privacy or more privacy but higher chances of getting flagged.

But a reputable mixer is okay too if you don't want the extra hassle.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on January 29, 2024, 12:01:33 PM

Quote from: aTriz on January 29, 2024, 07:32:07 AM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

how should he swap them to keep them anonymous? using any centralized exchange would make them known to him again. which would kill the whole point.
I think A Good mixer is still better than all these hassles.

What he suggest works since Monero is fully privacy token which means it’s untraceable once you already sent it to other Monero wallet.

He suggest to use a DEX to purchase monero using his Bitcoin in able to have a fully privacy monero to begin the wash. There’s no problem anymore if you will send it on centralized exchange or something that will expose your identity because the token is already clean. The whole point of mixing or chasing privacy is to erase the source of that token that will lead to you.

Not all user is mixing just to hide their money. Some are mixing to getaway from whatever shit they did just to acquire that particular Bitcoin.

Yes, I understand that Monero itself is Good as long as it stays Monero. but I am not aware of any DEX which supports Monero to BTC swaps Monero and BTC both are Coins. Dexs are for tokens. so when it comes to converting monero into bitcoin again then we'll start loosing privacy.
The best we can do is use a manual centralized exchange such as BestChange or any similar site. but I am afraid that won't keep your privacy intact.

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Quote from: aTriz on January 29, 2024, 07:32:07 AM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

how should he swap them to keep them anonymous? using any centralized exchange would make them known to him again. which would kill the whole point.
I think A Good mixer is still better than all these hassles.

What he suggest works since Monero is fully privacy token which means it’s untraceable once you already sent it to other Monero wallet.

He suggest to use a DEX to purchase monero using his Bitcoin in able to have a fully privacy monero to begin the wash. There’s no problem anymore if you will send it on centralized exchange or something that will expose your identity because the token is already clean. The whole point of mixing or chasing privacy is to erase the source of that token that will lead to you.

Not all user is mixing just to hide their money. Some are mixing to getaway from whatever shit they did just to acquire that particular Bitcoin.

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Quote from: aTriz on January 29, 2024, 07:32:07 AM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

Mixers are only banned from this forum. Mixers themselves are still working.

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

how should he swap them to keep them anonymous? using any centralized exchange would make them known to him again. which would kill the whole point.
I think A Good mixer is still better than all these hassles.

Yes, right. Mixer is still open for service. In this forum, mixer promotions have indeed been banned due to several cases with the authorities for facilitating criminality in obscuring transactions which means that mixer promotions will not be displayed here. If the OP intends to use a mixer as a means of obscuring mixer transactions, perhaps one of the right alternatives is, to choose a good mixer, just check altcointalk and look at some of the reviews there.

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

Mixers are only banned from this forum. Mixers themselves are still working.

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

how should he swap them to keep them anonymous? using any centralized exchange would make them known to him again. which would kill the whole point.
I think A Good mixer is still better than all these hassles.

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I've written a guide that might answer some questions raised in this thread:

How to make Bitcoin or any other Crypto fully anonymous in 2024

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Quote from: needsHELP on January 21, 2024, 06:27:36 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on January 21, 2024, 05:55:16 PM

Well, infairness with the governments that have tracked down some of them. There's a likely that they do have some tools/technology.

Going with the monero conversion, no one argues about the cost of it because it's effective to hide your privacy as what everyone is telling about it.

As for OP, I'm sure that he's got the ideas already that have been mentioned by every member here which were the same.

Yeah, I converted to Monero using the method described in the first response, moved it between addresses, then converted back to a different crypto to send to the CEX. Worked great. Thanks everyone for the advice!

That's good to know.

Quote from: ArikeTobi on January 21, 2024, 09:26:58 PM

Use mixers, if you can't afford to do that, you can make use of the gambling organizations, lastly, try to engage the use of bitcoincore over Tor.

Expect that you'll be asked to comply for KYC when you do that with the casinos. They are aware that users might be using them to mix their Bitcoins through them.

And if a user is new to them, that's why they're going to ask that user to complete verification if ever it hasn't been done yet.

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You can't make Bitcoin anonymous because its blockchain is transparent. You can achieve varying degrees of privacy which almost always come with certain tradeoffs.

Mixers are custodial and closed source. You have to trust them not to steal your money or keep logs. Without having access to their source code it is difficult to verify how effective their mixing algorithms really are.

Coinjoins can be expensive and users often make basic mistakes like merging all their mixed outputs together, combining private coins with toxic change, or spending to a reused address which links them to their previous history.

Swapping to Monero in the most private and decentralized manner can be cumbersome and is not usually suitable for large amounts due to insufficient liquidity.

Other options like statechains, Lightning and sidechains have not gained much traction but they can be useful tools.

Using Bitcoin privately is difficult without it being the default on layer 1. Ongoing improvements will continue to be made. You should explore various options and decide which solution is most ideal for your needs.

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Quote from: ArikeTobi on January 21, 2024, 09:26:58 PM

you can make use of the gambling organizations,

Most crypto gambling services implement KYC rules, there is no expectation of anonymity that way. On the other hand, they're centralizwd, there are more conditions and restrictions for withdrawing funds, you'll sometimes be violated by doing this by using the same account continuously.

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Quote from: needsHELP on January 20, 2024, 05:56:12 PM

Just what the title says. I have some BTC that I want to hide the origin of.

Use mixers, if you can't afford to do that, you can make use of the gambling organizations, lastly, try to engage the use of bitcoincore over Tor.

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Monero is a best privacy coin and you can use Monero $XMR as a middle cryptocurrency to gain privacy with Bitcoin.

With Bitcoin public ledger, all transactions can be traced and you must use inputs, outputs very cleverly to reduce your on-chain traces. Monero can help you to increase your privacy.

Find exchanges (no KYC), to deposit your BTC to, swap it to XMR. Move your XMR around and sell it to Bitcoin. Withdraw it to your wallet.

You can use Coin Join transaction if want to increase privacy more but be aware that some centralized exchanges are against CoinJoin.

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Quote from: needsHELP on January 20, 2024, 05:56:12 PM

Just what the title says. I have some BTC that I want to hide the origin of.

This thread is so tempting as one could unconsciously refer you to some specific mixers which might be faulting the forum rules. I almost did that lol…
Still, yeah mixers are a service in the cryptospace that specializes in hiding those traces, those origin by using various process to mixing such as coinjoin and even mixing with there coins so yeah. Though mixers aren’t allowed to operate on the forum, they remain a service in the cryptospace and you could such that out on other forums or even by using google search engine, get acquainted with the patterns to usage and enhance privacy on your Bitcoin.

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Quote from: needsHELP on January 21, 2024, 06:27:36 PM

Yeah, I converted to Monero using the method described in the first response, moved it between addresses, then converted back to a different crypto to send to the CEX. Worked great. Thanks everyone for the advice!

just be cautious
when using a promoted CEX but its not a regulated CEX, . regulated CEX/analysis services know of known unregulated crypto services reserve /hot/cold wallet addresses and would tag your withdrawal from their wallet as suspicious so you might be on a watchlist

though general users cant tie you to a particular earlier deposit. there are monitoring/analysis services that do rate utxo's/withdrawals based on where funds came from.
so you may have changed the taint from your previous use, you may now have a different taint suspicion rating for different reason

the very best way is to swap coins privately with a fresh mined coin

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Quote from: needsHELP on January 21, 2024, 06:27:36 PM

Yeah, I converted to Monero using the method described in the first response, moved it between addresses, then converted back to a different crypto to send to the CEX. Worked great. Thanks everyone for the advice!

This thread is an obvious shilling for xchange.me.
A newbie who clumsily asks about a service is immediately followed by another newbie who suggests this service in almost every detail. Then, a user like JoseJosayyyy wakes up from a long period of inactivity to confirm that it was the right choice.

I don't know much about this exchange, I can see from the archives that they have been operating for several years, but this is certainly a bad way to draw attention to them.

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website.

This is not true. They went up in price

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The exchange fees for XMR and BTC have been increased from 1% to 2%, and for other supported cryptocurrencies, the fee is now 3%.

here is their statement https://xchange.me/news.txt

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 21, 2024, 05:55:16 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 07:01:14 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on January 20, 2024, 06:48:54 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them.

Most likely because the forum has banned them? I am assuming that you've said that they don't work anymore because of the recent ban that has been implemented about them here.

I'd agree that one way is to convert your BTC into Monero and going on with coinjoin.

@OP, https://kycnot.me/ might help you.

Nothing to do with that, it's just widely assumed now that Chainalysis and governments have technology that makes them obsolete, that they can track transactions through them.

Monero is open source and only costs 1% to convert to, 2% max if you convert back, so why not be safe and do that instead?

Well, infairness with the governments that have tracked down some of them. There's a likely that they do have some tools/technology.

Going with the monero conversion, no one argues about the cost of it because it's effective to hide your privacy as what everyone is telling about it.

As for OP, I'm sure that he's got the ideas already that have been mentioned by every member here which were the same.

Yeah, I converted to Monero using the method described in the first response, moved it between addresses, then converted back to a different crypto to send to the CEX. Worked great. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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