The only way to be truly anonymous if a P2P transaction. Everything else leaves a trace. Even a P2P transaction leaves some trace, but that won't hold in court or if the tax man goes after you. As long as they can't prove the ownership of seller's and buyer's address there's not much they can do to you.
If you know someone who can sell you bitcoin, preferably a miner so the coins are used as little as possible, contact them and buy directly.
There are many holders who own coins from before the KYC era. For instance I have coins that date back to 2016 and these coins have almost no history, so it's impossible to tie them with an ID.
Topic: What's the best way make your Bitcoin anonymous right now? "Mixers"? (Read 617 times)
November 21, 2024, 03:38:23 PM
November 21, 2024, 03:11:16 PM
CoinJoin with JoinMarket, Wasabi, or with BTCPay Server CoinJoin option.
Here's a thread that has some more information about CoinJoin with both Wasabi and BTCPay Server: https://stacker.news/items/582299/r/Jon_Hodl and https://stacker.news/items/531823/r/Jon_Hodl
I believe Kruw is working on a tutorial so more uf us can be our own coordinator and make txs like this: https://stacker.news/items/745364/r/Jon_Hodl
I think JoinMarket is the best option with Jam but you will likely need to run your own node to run Jam.
Do you run your own node? If so, how are you running it? Standalone computer? Old Laptop? Core? or on a Ras Pi?
Here's a thread that has some more information about CoinJoin with both Wasabi and BTCPay Server: https://stacker.news/items/582299/r/Jon_Hodl and https://stacker.news/items/531823/r/Jon_Hodl
I believe Kruw is working on a tutorial so more uf us can be our own coordinator and make txs like this: https://stacker.news/items/745364/r/Jon_Hodl
I think JoinMarket is the best option with Jam but you will likely need to run your own node to run Jam.
Do you run your own node? If so, how are you running it? Standalone computer? Old Laptop? Core? or on a Ras Pi?
November 21, 2024, 10:10:58 AM
Don't, that is not the best way to go with mixers or anything. I have seen what that does, I have been part of a mixer campaign before that paid me, and binance asked me where I got the money from and threatened to block my binance account all together. So believe me, the whole world, the legit part of crypto, the companies basically, all see that as a risk, and no matter where you move that money from to where, you will end up with exchanges asking you about it.
Bitcoin is not the only place to sell bitcoin, and using an exchanger is not the only way to do it.For any transaction with bitcoin, only 2 components are needed: a buyer and a seller. With the popularity of bitcoin, we found ourselves under the power of exchangers, completely forgetting about where it all began - p2p.
This means, you will get your account frozen if you are not careful and you are going to end up with a lot of issues with your money. I would say find a p2p to exchange if you want, that way it would become someone else's problem but until then we are not going to end up with anything further, it is just not going to really change anything to use one.
Given the increase in the cost of bitcoin (look, it's almost $100k) and the decrease in the availability of this asset, over time, bitcoin even sent from mixers or even dirty ones will be needed for many. A problem for someone today will become a profit tomorrow. 
November 21, 2024, 10:04:43 AM
No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:
Mixers work very well and he can use mixers and the only thing is that mixers are not allowed to advertise their services here but they are advertising it in another platforms or forums. And since he is talking about his privacy to save bitcoin then I also advise him to use mixers to mix his coin to address of his choice. In that way, nobody will know where the coins go and enter because it is anonymous sending of coins to different addresses at a time. And I don't think Monero network is still active like before again though I am not using it so I can't dwell much on that. But I have used mixers and it was good. 
November 21, 2024, 09:50:42 AM
How can swapping be a solution at all? Swapping in practice means just "swapping" transaction history with someone else. This create more problems than before, as the future trades can be attributed to you. In court, you would have to confess that you swapped. Is there any way to go from BTC to XMR without swapping?
The best way according to some friends who are specialists in computer networks is through the darkweb, because exchanges do not allow it. I don't know if exchanges that are decentralized do so, but mixers are the best. Now that there is a new government in the USA, or it will be positioned by 2025, we have to see what the policies will be because Donald Trump is a lover of BTC and that could generate better policies to accept mixers again. I don't know, I'm just thinking about it It may happen.
November 17, 2024, 04:24:31 PM
Don't, that is not the best way to go with mixers or anything. I have seen what that does, I have been part of a mixer campaign before that paid me, and binance asked me where I got the money from and threatened to block my binance account all together. So believe me, the whole world, the legit part of crypto, the companies basically, all see that as a risk, and no matter where you move that money from to where, you will end up with exchanges asking you about it.
This means, you will get your account frozen if you are not careful and you are going to end up with a lot of issues with your money. I would say find a p2p to exchange if you want, that way it would become someone else's problem but until then we are not going to end up with anything further, it is just not going to really change anything to use one.
This means, you will get your account frozen if you are not careful and you are going to end up with a lot of issues with your money. I would say find a p2p to exchange if you want, that way it would become someone else's problem but until then we are not going to end up with anything further, it is just not going to really change anything to use one.
November 17, 2024, 09:57:33 AM
however if you know of a miner who is willing to trade your coin for his fresh mined coin. you obtaining fresh mined coin without the fluff of mixer rounded mount tagging is better for you
Why should on earth any miner accept your dirty coins and give you their fresh mined coins? What's the benefit for the miner? Well, if you give them the double money, then they might think about it but otherwise, I think no miner will accept such an offer.You don't understand.
The miners are selling their coins to the mixers in exchange for a larger amount of dirty coins.
So they end up receiving about 2-5% more bitcoins without having to actually do anything else.
Mixers buy up clean coins at a loss because there is a demand for coins that can be placed in exchanges and other online platforms.
eXch also has a pool of clean coins they source from miners, payment processors, exchanges, etc.
There is a huge demand for this because it's basically free money for miners and others.
November 17, 2024, 05:37:29 AM
mixer can hide your wallet because mixer is work like a middle man but they help people to do money laundering that's why mixer has been banned on this forum.
Mixers weren’t originally created for crime, they were designed to make transactions harder to trace. In reality, transactions are never truly anonymous. However, because of their purpose, criminals saw them as useful tools for money laundering.Since mixers can’t be easily regulated, governments often crack down on them. That’s why regulators tend to view mixers as tools primarily used for money laundering, even if that wasn’t their original intent, because if its for money laundering, anyone using it is violating the law.
November 17, 2024, 05:05:29 AM
Just what the title says. I have some BTC that I want to hide the origin of.
Bitcoin is decentralized coin and it is not possible to know someone personal information whith Bitcoin public key if you don't tell someone about your wallet address. so why you should use any 3rd party way to make you anonymous for Bitcoin transaction. mixer can hide your wallet because mixer is work like a middle man but they help people to do money laundering that's why mixer has been banned on this forum. 
November 17, 2024, 04:10:37 AM
however if you know of a miner who is willing to trade your coin for his fresh mined coin. you obtaining fresh mined coin without the fluff of mixer rounded mount tagging is better for you
Why should on earth any miner accept your dirty coins and give you their fresh mined coins? What's the benefit for the miner? Well, if you give them the double money, then they might think about it but otherwise, I think no miner will accept such an offer.Some mixer claim they offer option to give their customer freshly mined coin. IIRC the fee is around 4% - 10%. So if they're not lying about it, i can see some miner would work together with mixer.
November 16, 2024, 09:35:22 PM
No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:
1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)
2- get the tor browser
3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:
http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion
4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.
Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.
1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)
2- get the tor browser
3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:
http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion
4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.
Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.
This is the right answer. Use a good no-kyc exchange like xchange over tor, rinse and repeat.
The good old one two switcharu! Monero was banned for any approved ransomeware payments some years ago by OFAC - it’s funny because threat actors will still demand ransoms paid out in Monero but it’s actually illegal to pay a legal ransom that has been negotiated by Incident Response firms and threat actors simply because it is untraceable.
November 16, 2024, 08:26:58 AM
Why should on earth any miner accept your dirty coins and give you their fresh mined coins? What's the benefit for the miner? Well, if you give them the double money, then they might think about it but otherwise, I think no miner will accept such an offer.
With a interest of a few percent, why would a miner not exchange his coins for others of the same value? After all, that's what mixers do. What do you think miners do with fresh coins, keep them forever for themselves?Also, who is reliable enough to claim that some coins are 'dirty'? Whitebit AML checker?
November 16, 2024, 06:18:12 AM
however if you know of a miner who is willing to trade your coin for his fresh mined coin. you obtaining fresh mined coin without the fluff of mixer rounded mount tagging is better for you
Why should on earth any miner accept your dirty coins and give you their fresh mined coins? What's the benefit for the miner? Well, if you give them the double money, then they might think about it but otherwise, I think no miner will accept such an offer.This thread is an obvious shilling for xchange.me.
A newbie who clumsily asks about a service is immediately followed by another newbie who suggests this service in almost every detail. Then, a user like JoseJosayyyy wakes up from a long period of inactivity to confirm that it was the right choice.
I thought I was the only one who was thinking that. Yes, sounds strange how OP got a long response immediately from DM.A newbie who clumsily asks about a service is immediately followed by another newbie who suggests this service in almost every detail. Then, a user like JoseJosayyyy wakes up from a long period of inactivity to confirm that it was the right choice.
Use mixers, if you can't afford to do that, you can make use of the gambling organizations, lastly, try to engage the use of bitcoincore over Tor.
There is a chance that he might get some problems because his money comes from a casino but that depends on where he deposits his money. By the way, most importantly, casinos shouldn't be used for that because they are for gambling, not for hiding your financial activity. November 16, 2024, 02:35:38 AM
I would probably use CoinJoin with JoinMarket or by running your own BTCPay Server instance and using their CoinJoin tool.
I have a question about this, though.
This is non-custodial, obviously, so you will need to provide your own UTXO sets, right? And a lot of them if you want to make some serious anonymity.
I imagine this is why this method is not more popular
November 15, 2024, 01:18:26 PM
I would probably use CoinJoin with JoinMarket or by running your own BTCPay Server instance and using their CoinJoin tool.
Kruw (a member on here) has posted some stuff about becoming your own CoinJoin coordinator but still waiting for a tutorial.
Here's some info I was able to find: https://stacker.news/items/582299
and another https://stacker.news/items/745364 where I asked him if he can write a tutorial on it but I don't know if he has yet.
Kruw (a member on here) has posted some stuff about becoming your own CoinJoin coordinator but still waiting for a tutorial.
Here's some info I was able to find: https://stacker.news/items/582299
and another https://stacker.news/items/745364 where I asked him if he can write a tutorial on it but I don't know if he has yet.
November 15, 2024, 07:08:12 AM
Nothing to do with that, it's just widely assumed now that Chainalysis and governments have technology that makes them obsolete, that they can track transactions through them.
Chain analysis can't do that yet. Governments were never able to do this on their own without enlisting the help of forensic firms.
Small coinjoins can be plotted using heuristics and enough compute power, but if you have thousands and thousands of UTXOs and coinjoin with that, then it is basically impossible to crunch all of that data currently.
Even if they could, there are mixers that hand you low AML score coins sold by other people. Like Jambler. There are others too, for more information, read my website.
November 15, 2024, 06:04:46 AM
What a happy coincidence that one new user had a question and two other new users answered it by recommending an exchange.
It's as if they all arrived here with this in mind...
It's as if they all arrived here with this in mind...
November 15, 2024, 06:04:41 AM
How can swapping be a solution at all? Swapping in practice means just "swapping" transaction history with someone else. This create more problems than before, as the future trades can be attributed to you. In court, you would have to confess that you swapped.
Now we should discuss what a swap is. If you deposit BTC on Binance, buy XMR with it and withdraw it to your wallet. Isn't it a swap in some way? Or any order at all on any exchange?In court, if it is necessary to prove the origin of money, it is quite irrelevant whether it is Bitcoin, XMR or Dollar. If you know that you will be in court for it at some point, then there is certainly no point in swapping anything, it is just a waste of money on various commissions.
Is there any way to go from BTC to XMR without swapping?
I guess a simple rename didn't work. November 14, 2024, 07:30:46 PM
How can swapping be a solution at all? Swapping in practice means just "swapping" transaction history with someone else. This create more problems than before, as the future trades can be attributed to you. In court, you would have to confess that you swapped. Is there any way to go from BTC to XMR without swapping?
February 13, 2024, 08:48:58 AM
No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:
1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)
2- get the tor browser
3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:
http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion
4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.
Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.
1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)
2- get the tor browser
3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:
http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion
4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.
Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.
This is a 100% way, since I watched an interview with a man in uniform and he talked about exactly such a money laundering scheme.
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