What's the best way make your Bitcoin anonymous right now? "Mixers"? - page 2.

sunsilk

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 07:01:14 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on January 20, 2024, 06:48:54 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them.

Most likely because the forum has banned them? I am assuming that you've said that they don't work anymore because of the recent ban that has been implemented about them here.

I'd agree that one way is to convert your BTC into Monero and going on with coinjoin.

@OP, https://kycnot.me/ might help you.

Nothing to do with that, it's just widely assumed now that Chainalysis and governments have technology that makes them obsolete, that they can track transactions through them.

Monero is open source and only costs 1% to convert to, 2% max if you convert back, so why not be safe and do that instead?

Well, infairness with the governments that have tracked down some of them. There's a likely that they do have some tools/technology.

Going with the monero conversion, no one argues about the cost of it because it's effective to hide your privacy as what everyone is telling about it.

As for OP, I'm sure that he's got the ideas already that have been mentioned by every member here which were the same.

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using promoted mixers that reveal how they operate (people deposit in certain rounded amount and get out certain rounded amount) is the easiest way to get flagged as mixer used and tagged as a suspicion rating by services

however if you know of a miner who is willing to trade your coin for his fresh mined coin. you obtaining fresh mined coin without the fluff of mixer rounded mount tagging is better for you

benefits:
a. the only taint you have is 1 spend after coin reward
b. you can the claim to tax office you obtained coin from mining at X mining cost vs Y market price to reduce "paper gains" even if the hidden swap is from coins you obtained years ago
c. having no mixer tags services watch out for

to emphasis (B)
imagine you got 0.5btc in 2016 for $250 ($500/btc)
and now worth $21k($42k/btc)
if you cashed out you would have to claim gains of $20,750

however swapping for 0.5btc of fresh mined coins this week
you can claim your electric is (US $0.12c/kwh) which at 500exahash network hashrate is 0.5btc for $14k electric +$7.5k hardware to be "break even"
thus no cap gains

plus the onchain transaction taint can prove coins origins are from this years reward and not some other website withdrawal you dont want the tax man to know about

DarknetMarkets

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Quote from: JoseJosayyyy on January 20, 2024, 06:15:20 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)

2- get the tor browser

3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:

http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion

4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

This is the right answer. Use a good no-kyc exchange like xchange over tor, rinse and repeat.

Interesting. How long do these exchanges take, are they instant?

Pretty much, yes. You just have to wait for a couple confirmations, then XMR gets sent to you after a couple minutes.

DarknetMarkets

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 20, 2024, 06:48:54 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them.

Most likely because the forum has banned them? I am assuming that you've said that they don't work anymore because of the recent ban that has been implemented about them here.

I'd agree that one way is to convert your BTC into Monero and going on with coinjoin.

@OP, https://kycnot.me/ might help you.

Nothing to do with that, it's just widely assumed now that Chainalysis and governments have technology that makes them obsolete, that they can track transactions through them.

Monero is open source and only costs 1% to convert to, 2% max if you convert back, so why not be safe and do that instead?

sunsilk

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them.

Most likely because the forum has banned them? I am assuming that you've said that they don't work anymore because of the recent ban that has been implemented about them here.

I'd agree that one way is to convert your BTC into Monero and going on with coinjoin.

@OP, https://kycnot.me/ might help you.

DarknetMarkets

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Quote from: Stalker22 on January 20, 2024, 06:17:23 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them.

What do you mean by "mixers don't work anymore"?

I am not saying that using a centralized service is the best option, but it is wrong to say that they dont work. Some people still prefer to use mixers because of their ease of use.

Converting to Monero is just as easy, and actually anonymous! You don't have to trust that whatever "mixer" you're using isn't broken by governments or companies like Chainalysis.

Charles-Tim

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

You are wrong that mixers do not work anymore. They are still working.

Yes, Coinjoin can also be used. Also converting bitcoin to monero and back to bitcoin will also work, but on decentralized exchange like https://bisq.network/, or he can go the easy way like https://exch.cx/.

DarknetMarkets

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Quote from: Hatchy on January 20, 2024, 06:05:54 PM

Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them

How mate? They were only banned from this forum. They still offer their services and you can find them on this forum Altcoinstalk

If you don't want to use mixers, you can go for coinjoins read this thread to know more about how it functions
CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world]
Beginner's Guide to CoinJoin

It's pretty widely assumed that coins can be traced through mixers by companies like Chainalysis.

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them.

What do you mean by "mixers don't work anymore"?

I am not saying that using a centralized service is the best option, but it is wrong to say that they dont work. Some people still prefer to use mixers because of their ease of use.

JoseJosayyyy

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)

2- get the tor browser

3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:

http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion

4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

This is the right answer. Use a good no-kyc exchange like xchange over tor, rinse and repeat.

Hatchy

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Quote from: DarknetMarkets on January 20, 2024, 06:03:10 PM

Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them

How mate? They were only banned from this forum. They still offer their services and you can find them on this forum Altcoinstalk

If you don't want to use mixers, you can go for coinjoins read this thread to know more about how it functions
CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world]
Beginner's Guide to CoinJoin

DarknetMarkets

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No!! Mixers don't work anymore, stay away from them. There is an easy way:

1 - get a Monero wallet (feather or mymonero)

2- get the tor browser

3- Swap your bitcoin for Monero (XMR). The best no-kyc exchange I think is xchange.me, they only charge 1%. They have a great tor website. Navigate here with your tor browser:

http://xmxmrjvjw3drvegm7m5gpqp3bsgp3x3bgc2x7jc76cacr74jhdwop7id.onion

4- Once you get the monero, movie it to a second monero address.

Because of how Monero works, your crypto is now fully anonymous. You can now swap it back for bitcoin or any other crypto, and your coins are untraceable.

needsHELP

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Just what the title says. I have some BTC that I want to hide the origin of.

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