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Topic: What's up with all those spam bots? (Read 1750 times)

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1030
give me your cryptos
December 09, 2015, 11:54:13 PM
#45
Someone has a really big agenda against Theymos. Just ignore them, the accounts get nuked. Hope Theymos finds a fix though, they're pissing me off
legendary
Activity: 1401
Merit: 1008
northern exposure
December 09, 2015, 06:28:34 PM
#44
I've seen many posts made on bitcoin discussion that is completely not understandable and meaningless. The accounts made seem to have randomly generated characters.

Something has to be done.

"Report to moderator" -> spam -> done. Most of them are removed within the minute the post is created.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hilarious-bots-posting-nonsense-whats-the-point-1278196

Exactly this; Just let Moderators do his job and if everybody wants to have this forum clean, just need to be fair enough while you post and use the "Report to moderator" button when you see all those spam bots, contribute and help yourself...
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 7005
Top Crypto Casino
December 09, 2015, 03:54:46 PM
#43
Somewhere there is a man in his underwear, sitting at a computer.  Likely he has hairy arms and his computer screen hasn't been wiped in years, and he's probably smoked something recently that didn't come in a pack of 20.  Pupils very dilated.  And all this man can think of doing is to create one account after another here at bitcointalk and to string words and pseudo-words into short combinations that reflect his burgeoning insanity. 

That guy is not me, by the way.  Just saying.
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
December 09, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
#42
I've seen many posts made on bitcoin discussion that is completely not understandable and meaningless. The accounts made seem to have randomly generated characters.

Something has to be done.

"Report to moderator" -> spam -> done. Most of them are removed within the minute the post is created.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hilarious-bots-posting-nonsense-whats-the-point-1278196

Yes but... The bot acts faster than we do. It would be much more convenient if we just had some sort of sign up restriction.

They are appearing every minute.

Well the bot gets to "decide" when to act, all we can do is react. Sign up restrictions that are not also restricting legit new users are hard to come up with. If you have an idea, let us know.


PS: Props to the admin/global mod(?) that merged the topics.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 538
December 09, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
#41
I've seen many posts made on bitcoin discussion that is completely not understandable and meaningless. The accounts made seem to have randomly generated characters.

Something has to be done.

"Report to moderator" -> spam -> done. Most of them are removed within the minute the post is created.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hilarious-bots-posting-nonsense-whats-the-point-1278196

Yes but... The bot acts faster than we do. It would be much more convenient if we just had some sort of sign up restriction.

They are appearing every minute.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
December 09, 2015, 11:30:59 AM
#40
it seems that they are generating thread at a faster rate than the banned one, at this point it look like they are not being banned

the spammer is going serious with this
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
December 09, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
#39
I've seen many posts made on bitcoin discussion that is completely not understandable and meaningless. The accounts made seem to have randomly generated characters.

Something has to be done.

"Report to moderator" -> spam -> done. Most of them are removed within the minute the post is created.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hilarious-bots-posting-nonsense-whats-the-point-1278196
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 538
December 09, 2015, 04:54:03 AM
#38
I've seen many posts made on bitcoin discussion that is completely not understandable and meaningless. The accounts made seem to have randomly generated characters.

Something has to be done.
sr. member
Activity: 412
Merit: 251
December 08, 2015, 10:29:34 PM
#37
Yeah. There's a crapton of them on bitcoin discussion. I'm getting real annoyed, they don't even make any sense. Meh, more posts to report, increase my accuracy.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
December 08, 2015, 08:52:58 PM
#36
If someone bans an account, they make a new one.
If someone bans an ip, they get a new one.

D: Dynamic IP
IB: IP Ban
B: Ban

Account #1 IP: 11.1.1.1 - > Gets banned
moves on to
Account #2 IP: 11.1.1.1 - > Gets IP banned
moves on to new IP
Account #3 IP: 12.1.1.1 -> Gets IP banned

etc

It's easy to bypass any ban if you know what to do. Spam bots will always be here, and the post limits just annoy the legit members who want to post but can't.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1064
December 08, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
#35
Wouldn't that mean less shares for the existing ones? Or does the share from ad revenue only go to Global moderators and Section moderators, not Patrollers?

From what I have read, patrollers do make reasonable amounts of BTC. So that shouldn't be a problem.  Smiley

I think the mod money that is allocated is capped to certain staff levels. Patrollers seem to get a max of around 2btc or so if they're very active whereas very active Globals like grue and BadBear get near or around 8btc (though I believe it's dished out by the dollar value so it will fluctuate from time to time but the payments in comparison are roughly the same)
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
December 08, 2015, 07:57:52 PM
#34
@shorena: from what I understood the new captcha is meant to replace the actual one when registering new account +/- in the first newbie post(s), so it will not have anything to do with the actual btctalkers Smiley
Since the bot didn't stop its random spam, i think implementing new captcha isn't harmful, if it will succeed to stop the bot then it is a good thing else we didn't lose anything. The actual captcha is useless anyway  Undecided
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For registering an account im perfectly ok with a captcha, but not with the first X posts. There are still new humans coming here, asking for help, trying to understand bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Move On !!!!!!
December 08, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
#33
I seriously cannot think of a reason why someone bothers to spam random words. I really wonder what's their motivation. Been reporting the ones that don't get nuked instantly. Haven't been able to hit my report limit lately tho Cheesy

The same reason the people are FUDing and trolling on the forum. They do have some hidden agenda. Either they are paid to do so by someone or they want to lower the price or they hate Bitcoin, etc..
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1024
December 08, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
#32
I seriously cannot think of a reason why someone bothers to spam random words. I really wonder what's their motivation. Been reporting the ones that don't get nuked instantly. Haven't been able to hit my report limit lately tho Cheesy

If you want to be annoying and all you have to do is write a small script, it could be worth it.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1001
December 08, 2015, 02:21:09 PM
#31
Now I am glad we have that newbie posting restriction. I was against it some time ago but now I see this as good way of defending forum from these 'spam nonsense' attacks.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
December 08, 2015, 02:02:01 PM
#30
Captcha can be solved by spam bots, but it cost money, because they hire someone in the 3rd world to solve it manually, about $0.10 per captcha. I think you can try to do a statistic report, you should see no one with 100 or more post count, is spamming. So it should be very effective in vastly reducing spam.

I never tried the report feature before, I just tried it, and reported 3 spam in Chinese forum. Looks like it does work well, they were removed pretty fast.


it's more like 0.5 per 1000 captcha, so very cheap, check 2captcha

it will not work not even as a deterrent
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
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December 08, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
#29
I seriously cannot think of a reason why someone bothers to spam random words.
More than 3 threads about it by now(first two listed on the second post). Mine(the first one) : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-spamming-botdifferent-post-style-and-yeah-had-to-make-this-thread-1275923
Since the bot didn't stop its random spam, i think implementing new captcha isn't harmful, if it will succeed to stop the bot then it is a good thing else we didn't lose anything. The actual captcha is useless anyway  Undecided
I believe 3rd party captchas are not used due to any exploit potentially facilitated by them, could be wrong on this one, as I remember seeing it vaguely posted by a staff/moderator/admin. At any rate, this is what patrollers are "paid" to do, they get removed within minutes if not seconds, so they are nothing more than an annoyance if you constantly check the "Show unread posts since last visit. " as me
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1065
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December 08, 2015, 01:25:10 PM
#28
@shorena: from what I understood the new captcha is meant to replace the actual one when registering new account +/- in the first newbie post(s), so it will not have anything to do with the actual btctalkers Smiley
Since the bot didn't stop its random spam, i think implementing new captcha isn't harmful, if it will succeed to stop the bot then it is a good thing else we didn't lose anything. The actual captcha is useless anyway  Undecided

Edit:
so they are nothing more than an annoyance if you constantly check the "Show unread posts since last visit. " as me
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sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 250
In XEM we trust
December 08, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
#27
I seriously cannot think of a reason why someone bothers to spam random words. I really wonder what's their motivation. Been reporting the ones that don't get nuked instantly. Haven't been able to hit my report limit lately tho Cheesy
A lot are speculating that they are tying to get the post count up. I don't really buy that because that shit isn't really sustainable in the long run.
However would love to hear some alternative theories about this. I mean this looks pretty retarded and useless to me. In before the messages have a bitcoin address encoded in them that contains several hundred bitcoins.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
December 08, 2015, 01:09:05 PM
#26
I seriously cannot think of a reason why someone bothers to spam random words. I really wonder what's their motivation. Been reporting the ones that don't get nuked instantly. Haven't been able to hit my report limit lately tho Cheesy
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