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legendary
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February 13, 2019, 07:54:19 AM
#32
also those few people that have slow internet because they are home users actually bottleneck the propogation. and thus they are not helping the network. so just being a full node for the sake of thinking they are helping, is actually doing the opposite.
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mindset above is of the same mindset as real bitcoin inventor circa 2008-2010.(satoshi, NOT craig)
this is not a mindset of cw's creation... but craig to pretend he was the inventor adopted this mindset to push his fake ploy that he was the creator.

when others agree with the idea that slow connections=bottlenecks, does not make the idea wrong simply because cw now quotes it. it also does not mean people are following craig if they are following the slow internet=bottleneck..
but should be realised that the content has merit(original source). but that craig is only saying it purely from a point of view of 'i am satoshi'.. it still does not make the content wrong. but just makes craig a ass hat for trying to claim the mindset as his own


if your a home user with slow internet dont try being a node with hundreds of connections. as its like trying to be a torrent seed that is only offering independent users a 0.005kb/s datastream. its far better to only have 1-2 connections to cause less bottlenecking for others. thus offering a 0.25-0.5 datastream instead of 0.005
attempting to up the node connections to be helpful does do the opposite. because the recipients are not getting best connectivity.
also du to node drops due to low offering.. a slow internet user then needs to establish new connections and then send out the exact same data to new nodes AGAIN and again and again. thus not even helping the slow internet users own bandwidth utility.
its like someone with a stutter. its far better to talk to only a couple people and concentrate your speach on 2 people to keep a good conversation. than to try talking to 100's of people who will get bored of waiting for the completion of a sentance, walk off and the guy stuttering then has to restart with new people. it does not help the listeners. and the guy stuttering ends up repeating self more often then needed, further infuriating himself due to his limited ability. thus helping no one

think about it logically.. even the real bitcoin creator pointed this out in 2009-2010(again real bitcoin creator, not cw)
imagine 8 slow internet users of 0.5mb/s had 100 node connectivity for seeding out data.
another node that connected to those 8 slow internet users would get 8 connections of only 0.005(0.04 combined)

now imagine the 8 slow internet users only allowed 2 nodes each
another node that connected to 8 slow internet users would get 8 connections of 0.25(2mb combined)

also it actually helps the slow internet user to:
be a reliable seeder for others
to not have connected nodes drop them meaning they retain connections
to not have to get repeat drops which means not have to repeatedly send the same data
which reduces the bandwidth usage the slower user actually uses, thus helps themselves and their connected peers.
.. also those not personally needing to verify hundreds of transactions a day add latency, so normlly best to have 100,000 nodes that need high transaction verification needs. than have home users that dont need high transaction verification needs just being there for the sake of being there

but again
just because craig says it in 2015+ does not mean the original idea from the original source of 2008-10 is wrong. and does not mean others who say it are also wrong. because the reality is that idea is not of craigs invention..
though there are some people out there that try to discredit real idea's, simply due to craig quoting the idea. even if its not craigs idea in the first place
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February 13, 2019, 07:25:20 AM
#31
also those few people that have slow internet because they are home users actually bottleneck the propogation. and thus they are not helping the network. so just being a full node for the sake of thinking they are helping, is actually doing the opposite.
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legendary
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February 13, 2019, 07:18:10 AM
#30
Like some other people that dupe people around this space (... say someone who posted earlier in this thread...) Wright compensates for cluelessness by applying an abusive attitude, technobabble, and choir preaching insults at respected authorities
bitcoin has authorities...
Gmax claiming to be an authority... is the exact problem that proves bitcoin centralisation.. while then saying that if people dont respect him, the disrespectful should be treated as clueless abusive choir preachers...

dang gmax, high ego. and admitting bitcoin is centralised in one sentance.
kinda the whole reason to actually lose respect for you


anyway craig wright is just a scammer playing with an altcoin that he didnt even write himself. he deserves no fame and should just fizzle out into obscurity. cw has nothing to do with bitcoin.
 im surprised how such an 'authority' deems cw such a threat to even get emotional about cw drama.
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February 13, 2019, 05:28:34 AM
#29
@gmaxwell Oh damn, I never realised everything was nicely documented on the wiki page. Thanks, and very useful reference.

As pointed out countless times and reminded belatedly in that string of evidence against CW, proof of claim should be supremely trivial (as shown by LTC and DGB creators who simply signed from address associated with Genesis block).

Love the following Tweet: https://twitter.com/spiroseliot/status/727163005339860992
legendary
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February 13, 2019, 01:58:40 AM
#28
the only reason why people like Craig Wright exist and continue their shenanigans online is because WE are giving them the attention they seek and them being attention whores and wanting to scam people love this attention and succeed in their mission.
so i say it is time that we stop starting new topics and discussing anything that is remotely related to these types of people. that is the easiest way you can fight them. otherwise you will be blue in the face before you can debunk half their bullshit.
legendary
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February 13, 2019, 01:34:52 AM
#27
that's incredible to me, because he comes off like an obvious conman to me. maybe it's just the fact that i've seen him caught in lies---like the time he tried to trick people into believing he controlled satoshi's PGP key. it was an obvious scam.
Like some other people that dupe people around this space (... say someone who posted earlier in this thread...) Wright compensates for cluelessness by applying an abusive attitude, technobabble, and choir preaching insults at respected authorities to both elevate his standing and make his audience feel superior (like "I knew it! all along those respected folks were really worst than me!").

People without the relevant background can't judge the content, but they hear the the tone and attitude and they can't imagine using that approach unless they were telling the truth.  They just cant imagine being a pathological liar with testicles of neutronium themselves... and so, improbable as it seems, they actually find Wright's spiel credible even though to the rest of us it wouldn't even make for a credible conman act in a movie.

In fact, his utter implausibility works in his favour in another way: it discourages competent people from spending their time discrediting him, and when they do it they find themselves saying something like "wtf. how could you _possibly_ believe this crap. I can't even.", -- not exactly the most effective, even though it's actually a fair response considering the utter absurdity of the situation. Smiley

Also, since no one has linked it and to avoid myself being guilty of just giving a "I can't even" response, the bitcoin wiki page on Wright is obligatory reading: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Craig_Wright

I have wanted to ask this question to people who had interactions with Gavin Andresen.

What's the story behind Gavin Andresen's claim that "Craig Wright" is Satoshi? He has the relevant background to judge, and I believe that he is not that naive either. But why?

I heard of theories that it was a deliberate act to discredit himself because he was already compromised by the CIA.
legendary
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February 12, 2019, 11:22:43 PM
#26
I will give him the benefit of the doubt until 2020 because im very generous. He himself put several countdowns on his credibility, including the end of the Tulip Trust thing which has the coins on lock, and the one where he will kill segwit next year. If he doesn't deliver, he just can't hold his act anymore, not even for his biggest fans. His ego is unlimited tho, just like his block size, so he will come up with further excuses.

did you even read the details of the tulip trust.

heres the revelation.
the tulip trust holds only PUBLIC KEYS which were put into a notepad file. and then notorised into a fund.
NO PRIVATE KEYS

as your post above proves he just grabbed random early adoptor keys. again PUBLIC KEYS
the tulip trust has NO PRIVATE KEYS

so no point waiting for 2020.
the tulip trust has been ripped apart as a scam hense why when craig used the tulip trust as collateral. it led to craig getting into alot of trouble with the aussie government after they done their checks.

all craig wright is doing now, because he cannot provide private keys. is to try social drama stuff to get his face on as many media publishings as possible and hope using the media publishing as proof of ID, to then hope to use that as proof of ownership (DUMB-ASS)

until then he is trying lots of tricks to gather funds to hope to ponzi his way out of big trouble (repay the big debts) and try to mitigate trouble by leaving only small holders too afraid to sue him left empty handed.
legendary
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February 12, 2019, 10:53:15 PM
#25
There's a long post by Greg Maxwell on reddit aka nullc, he goes in detail about how he did the trick of signing the key in front of Gavin Andressen and whoever else was there on the non-disclosure signing event.

There's also the job done by wizsec on the so called satoshi coins linked to Craig's claims:



What can be said about Craig Wright that hasn't been said at this point?

I will give him the benefit of the doubt until 2020 because im very generous. He himself put several countdowns on his credibility, including the end of the Tulip Trust thing which has the coins on lock, and the one where he will kill segwit next year. If he doesn't deliver, he just can't hold his act anymore, not even for his biggest fans. His ego is unlimited tho, just like his block size, so he will come up with further excuses.
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February 12, 2019, 04:34:52 PM
#24
Today I happened across a recent interview with him, in a bitcoin discussion.

He stated at the end, "I was Satoshi".

The interesting thing I noted is a well educated smart individual using the word "was", is very past tense.

It could have been nothing really, but from someone who hasn't even begun to touch his wallets for some time, sounded odd.

Is he for real? He doesn't seem fraudulent to me.

But that is a big statement to make to the crypto world.

I apologize if this has been posted to death, I didnt want to necro any old stuff.

Somebody blow my fuckin brains out while the day's still young ... PLEASE!!!

LMAO. Sorry dude. Didn't mean to fire you up.

I was ignorant of his past, but boy howdy I learned quick. Still quite an interesting back story I wasn't aware of.
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February 12, 2019, 03:14:42 PM
#23

"I am Satoshi!"


"Meeting Satoshi in person was like looking in a mirror."
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February 12, 2019, 02:57:40 PM
#22
Today I happened across a recent interview with him, in a bitcoin discussion.

He stated at the end, "I was Satoshi".

The interesting thing I noted is a well educated smart individual using the word "was", is very past tense.

It could have been nothing really, but from someone who hasn't even begun to touch his wallets for some time, sounded odd.

Is he for real? He doesn't seem fraudulent to me.

But that is a big statement to make to the crypto world.

I apologize if this has been posted to death, I didnt want to necro any old stuff.

Somebody blow my fuckin brains out while the day's still young ... PLEASE!!!
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February 12, 2019, 02:13:01 PM
#21
but  I am pretty sure he owns (or used to own until recently) a lot of bitcoins.
He bought an insignificant sum on mtgox in 2013. There is no evidence that I'm aware of to suggest that he had any when he started scamming Bitcoiners. And there is a lot of evidence he didn't: If he did, why would he be risking them (and his freedom) attempting to defraud the AU government for millions? Why, when the AU government caught him and demanded he prove he had owned bitcoins under risk of imprisonment (his scam required him to claim to have a lot of BTC) -- didn't he reveal some of them instead of taking the risky step of claiming that a bunch of MTGox's coins were his?

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He wouldn't have been sued for billions unless people new he had them, no?
The people suing him are doing it just on the basis of his public claims.  For them it's a simple strategy:  Either Wright is telling the truth and they're owed big time, or Wright is lying and he should settle with them (for, say, a few million) quickly before their discovery process reveals more of his criminal fraud. Win/win.  To do this they have to treat his public claims as the truth, even if they don't believe them. Though they might... filing a lawsuit doesn't give them any special insight. The fact that wright is frauding is better for their lawsuit since it creates more incentive for wright to settle quickly.  (Unfortunately for them, he's just not that sane...)
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February 12, 2019, 12:57:33 PM
#20
long story short
he doesnt write bitcoin code
in 2011+ he pretended to own bitcoin and make a false name for himself by pretending to own coins of bitcoins inventor(due to certain addresses being well known(part of his ploy/plot))

he does not own the coins and just grabbed publicly available data, which anyone has access to, to fake a 'trustfund' to then use the trust fund as collateral to scam many businesses including the australian government.

in short he is not a bitcoin coder, not a bitcoiner, and not a bitcoin influencer.
I agree that this man is probably not Satoshi, even though we cannot be 100% sure, but  I am pretty sure he owns (or used to own until recently) a lot of bitcoins. I mean, don't we even know for sure he has lots of bitcoins? He wouldn't have been sued for billions unless people new he had them, no? And he said he'll sell a lot, and we can see that someone did.
Returning to the question in the original post, he is not, was not and will not ever be the Satoshi we respect and value.
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February 12, 2019, 12:41:25 PM
#19
If he was Satoshi then why would he just said it later on? the thrill will vanish, it's all about publicity, no more no less.

Anyone can claim that they are Satoshi, even me but until the time comes that the account of Satoshi Nakamoto's account 'Last Active: Today' will be sighted then that's the time I'll be started to believe that he's back.
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February 12, 2019, 12:35:25 PM
#18
seeing franky's answer, its just open my eyes about what will happen if someone pretends to be someone else and seems to be in power about it just because he has little involvement in it. Right now Mr Satoshi is still "not found" or its maybe just an anonymous people that put some people's random photo in it and then named it as "Satoshi Nakamoto"
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February 12, 2019, 12:26:10 PM
#17

He can't prove he is satoshi. The guy is a fraud.

The most challenging for CSW to do its to sign message of satoshi's wallet and send some BTC to another wallet. No one touches that wallet since time.
If he "WAS" satoshi why destroy BTC with his own fork? 
I am too of the same opinion as you because I am not sure if CSW is satoshi, if indeed he is satoshi then he must dare to say who he is in all media or news from crypto. no, no he is not satoshi and I am sure he is a cheater.
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February 12, 2019, 09:51:26 AM
#16

He can't prove he is satoshi. The guy is a fraud.

The most challenging for CSW to do its to sign message of satoshi's wallet and send some BTC to another wallet. No one touches that wallet since time.
If he "WAS" satoshi why destroy BTC with his own fork? 
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February 12, 2019, 09:33:45 AM
#15
long story short
he doesnt write bitcoin code
in 2011+ he pretended to own bitcoin and make a false name for himself by pretending to own coins of bitcoins inventor(due to certain addresses being well known(part of his ploy/plot))

he does not own the coins and just grabbed publicly available data, which anyone has access to, to fake a 'trustfund' to then use the trust fund as collateral to scam many businesses including the australian government.
the aussy government tried chasing him with civil court actions so he fled australia
he is now just trying to grab fresh money from many places to hope to repay old money (run a ponzi) so now he is geting deeper into trouble

he is now trying social drama techniques to continue false faming himself. and hopes the fame would be the proof of ownership without having to prove ownership. and hope he can dig himself out of his hole using social drama, although he is just digging his hole deeper

in short he is not a bitcoin coder, not a bitcoiner, and not a bitcoin influencer.
no point talking more about him as he has nothing really relating him to bitcoin but scams. thus lets not give him more attention. let his name die out and let his faked fame evaporate
Well that explains everything clearly. Besides that there would be no proof for him to justify that he is the real Satoshi.
I guess even if the real Satoshi appears right now, it would be difficult for us to trust him unless he shows us the access to his real old addresses and funds.
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February 12, 2019, 09:16:24 AM
#14
that's incredible to me, because he comes off like an obvious conman to me. maybe it's just the fact that i've seen him caught in lies---like the time he tried to trick people into believing he controlled satoshi's PGP key. it was an obvious scam.
Like some other people that dupe people around this space (... say someone who posted earlier in this thread...) Wright compensates for cluelessness by applying an abusive attitude, technobabble, and choir preaching insults at respected authorities to both elevate his standing and make his audience feel superior (like "I knew it! all along those respected folks were really worst than me!").

People without the relevant background can't judge the content, but they hear the the tone and attitude and they can't imagine using that approach unless they were telling the truth.  They just cant imagine being a pathological liar with testicles of neutronium themselves... and so, improbable as it seems, they actually find Wright's spiel credible even though to the rest of us it wouldn't even make for a credible conman act in a movie.

In fact, his utter implausibility works in his favour in another way: it discourages competent people from spending their time discrediting him, and when they do it they find themselves saying something like "wtf. how could you _possibly_ believe this crap. I can't even.", -- not exactly the most effective, even though it's actually a fair response considering the utter absurdity of the situation. Smiley

Also, since no one has linked it and to avoid myself being guilty of just giving a "I can't even" response, the bitcoin wiki page on Wright is obligatory reading: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Craig_Wright

Indeed. I welcome everyone to see for themselves exactly how they try to twist things to fit with their own agenda ...

Another exert from The Satoshi Affair - Andrew O’Hagan on the many lives of Satoshi Nakamoto , for the topic ...
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/craight-wright-is-he-really-satoshi-5100073

Page 9
"... Weeks later, I was in the kitchen of the house Wright was renting in London drinking
tea with him when I noticed a book on the worktop called Visions of Virtue in
Tokugawa Japan. I’d done some mugging up by then and was keen to nail the name
thing.
‘So that’s where you say you got the Nakamoto part?’ I asked. ‘From the 18th-century
iconoclast who criticised all the beliefs of his time?’
‘Yes.’
‘What about Satoshi?’
‘It means “ash”,’ he said. ‘The philosophy of Nakamoto is the neutral central path in
trade. Our current system needs to be burned down and remade. That is what
cryptocurrency does – it is the phoenix ...’

‘So satoshi is the ash from which the phoenix ...’
‘Yes. And Ash is also the name of a silly Pokémon character. The guy with Pikachu.’
Wright smiled. ‘In Japan the name of Ash is Satoshi,’ he said.
‘So, basically, you named the father of bitcoin after Pikachu’s chum?’
‘Yes,’ he said. ‘That’ll annoy the buggery out of a few people.’ This was something he
often said, as if annoying people was an art...."


...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Ketchum

"... Ash Ketchum, known as Satoshi (サトシ) in Japan, is a fictional character in the Pokémon franchise owned by Nintendo. He is the main protagonist of the Pokémon anime and certain manga series as well as on various merchandise related to the franchise..."

"... His English name is derived from the Japanese name (as the letters 'ash' are included in 'Satoshi') and his English motto, "Gotta Catch 'Em All"..."

"... Controversy

On August 18, 2016, the XYZ episode Kalos League Victory! Satoshi's Greatest Decisive Battle (カロスリーグ優勝!サトシ頂上決戦 Karosurīgu yūshō! Satoshi chōjō kessen) (Down to the Fiery Finish! in the English dub) faced criticism from fans when Ash lost the Kalos League against Alain. The fans specifically criticized the episode due to misleading trailers that suggested that Ash would win the battle and because Ash had lost all of the Pokémon Leagues in past seasons..."


...

Q. How do you fit 20,000 Pikachu's onto a bus ?   Cheesy   Roll Eyes

P.S. I'm NOT an anarchist ? - SWIM

EDIT:
* More Satire *
- https://youtu.be/iZNFKxeYZPA

- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1095296293625360385

"I have also come to learn, I really do not like anarchist fools. They have their head up their ass and cannot understand reality nor that others do not want their "utopia" Honestly, this force you to be free crap."

- https://twitter.com/MADinMelbourne/status/1095292274211139587

"the trolls are coming out fast and thick again... so difficult to hear #bitcoin was designed to be legal, to make the existing system more efficient. Anarchists "libertarians" suffering with this knowledge #denial hurts."

- https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1095305896073330688

"I hope people understand, with Bitcoin and Metanet, there is now NO reason for that pseudo leak site- WikiLeaks to even exist. Have a nice life, you had an opportunity to be more than a bunch of socialist losers and do something right - you failed. Enjoy as we make you obsolete"

   Roll Eyes

It is immutable (transcript).

 Roll Eyes

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February 12, 2019, 04:09:05 AM
#13
This Wright seems like an impostor. If he doesn't write any bitcoin node like someone above me inferred, then he should gaining popularity by riding on the anonymous identity of Satoshi. People really don't take him serious.
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