Whatsminer M20 is announced and available for pre-order - page 7.

philipma1957

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Yeah I usually talk with Laurent on pangolin telegram channel.

So far no reply but it is midnight in China so maybe a reply in about 9 -10 hours.

Oh my wimpy m10 is not restarting I will try later today.

I pulled the hottest board from the m10 the one with highest hash numbers and set unit to low it did fire up and is doing about 13.00 th on low with 2 boards. It does sip power under 720 watts.

and laurent got back to me I may get gear shipped very soon

Artemis3

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And here are some pretty pics:

https://qiniu.microbt.com/uploading/13_dbe4abf9993eb524836302a7a537bc49.jpg
https://qiniu.microbt.com/uploading/13_0271d3bf5d23ddb6ffdcb02597dd737c.jpg
https://qiniu.microbt.com/uploading/13_dcb9e657ef1b7e715df21f6ca61ce570.jpg
https://qiniu.microbt.com/uploading/13_a6a5d659c5adc150875fc37a45c60a3b.jpg

At least now i know what the things are supposed to look like. The M21 is suspiciously looking like the M3, but that efficiency looks like the M10. i wonder why... 16nm chips? The M20 seems to match the 12nm efficiency rate.

Steamtyme

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Yeah I figured there was going to be a delay, when I checked with them last week and they were very low on details. Who do you chat with about it, I'm having a hard time figuring out the best ways to communicate with them. Seems to be telegram, but I'm not sure what Shaun's (might have spelled it wrong) role is there. I'm going to see if I had a name from my communication from when I ordered the demo.

I'm looking to try and have them package a PSU and bridge board to send out with my demo so I can see what part is lame on my M10. It's tough working through the language barrier at times when you throw them a non standard situation.

philipma1957

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799 price one at a time the m10's are tariff free.

I got 8 like that. All about 10 to 20 days apart.

Back to the m20's . May be a delay on my demo I will post back when I get a full explanation.

Steamtyme

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I think it was any of the units under 800$ were tariff free. I know there were coupons out when they went over 799, that brought them low enough. Iirc it is only the purchase price that matters not the shipping.

Searing

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Clueless!

So if I am following...$850 there is NO 25% tariff and such on their M21 now? I doubt I'd get one at that price with shipping call it (if lucky) $950 w/o tariff and just the shipping and fees. But, if you think $9k or $9.5k BTC or more is on the way..you probably could at least break even (optimistically speaking)...again, not sure I'd buy..but at least I'd be watching w/o the tariff stuff.

Anyway, clarify, please. Perhaps you mean $799 did not kick the tariff into play. Unsure.

With Bitmain tossing in 88 million dollars into Bitcoin Equipment they have left and the 50/50 split with hydro operators in China, with excess electric this summer, the whole thing is likely moot. That easily could be a 33% difficulty rise. Thus even $9k to $9.5k BTC would not make sense (especially if still tariffs) in any case.

Well, hell, stuff to watch from the sidelines I guess.

philipma1957

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Well the m10s legally avoided the trump tax. Price of 799 order one a week and you were good.

The m20s are a different animal I am not sure they will avoid the trump tax.

I have 8 m10s

Six = perfect
One has a dead,board,out of warranty.
One is hit or miss when it shuts off. It may or may not restart.

So to say 22 of 24 boards works is close that is about 8% bad. You could argue the 22.5 or 23 boards work as the down time on the one that is hard to restart is under one hour a day. That would make %5 bad gear a better estimate on my m10s.

My one t15 drops out often.
My one s15 is gold.
My one s17 pro is too new to rate.

Frankly I am happier with the old cheapo s9s and l3s.

At least they are cheap.

I have to check on the m20 as I thought it would ship today. It is 715 am Monday in China so may ship in 8 or 9 hours.

Searing

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 15, 2019, 11:02:57 AM

My demo should be shipping in about 3-5 days

Good, you have a demo coming. I hope for your good fortune and it was 'free' and clear of the below fees.

It is out of reach for most of us in the USA though, even if we THINK 9k BTC plus pricing. With the 25% Tariff and the 2.6% import fee and when you tell us whatever shipping is on a unit.

Not good. I can't even play my USUAL game on equipment 'guessing' of 'at least' I can mine the BTC for purchase back out of the unit via electric... some day. At worse (break even). Not with the above fees. That duck doesn't fly!

(I don't suppose there is ANY equivalent ASIC miner of any flavor, besides (Sia-Tech..yech) that gets around USA tariff?)

Damn, I need a 'cousin' in China that I can trust with a BTC address and a hook to this summer's overabundance of hydropower...in China..as long as I'm making impossible wishes. Instead, all I have as an 'angle' in the USA on crypto-mining of any flavor and such is Philipma1957...sigh....you works with what you have

Steamtyme

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That's good to hear. They didn't sound sure the miners would ship by the 20th when I was chatting with them. Kinda wiped wasted 2 hours troubleshooting the limpy m10 last night, via telegram it was pretty much pointless.

philipma1957

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My demo should be shipping in about 3-5 days

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70TH @ 3300w is a beastly machine. -nvm sweet machine

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Quote from: Artemis3 on May 07, 2019, 11:45:10 PM

OK Where on telegram did you post this? Do you use any particular channel group?

Pretty sure you are in the channel already: bitcoinMINING.

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Quote from: elokk on May 07, 2019, 05:41:00 PM

Here is my lazy way of posting video minus sound because I don't have a youtube account or imgur app on my phone (don't hate on me): https://imgur.com/a/90rkvjU

Video with sound is posted on Telegram if you want to re-post Hagss.

OK Where on telegram did you post this? Do you use any particular channel group?

philipma1957

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Quote from: elokk on May 07, 2019, 05:41:00 PM

Here is my lazy way of posting video minus sound because I don't have a youtube account or imgur app on my phone (don't hate on me): https://imgur.com/a/90rkvjU

Video with sound is posted on Telegram if you want to re-post Hagss.

a shot at 59 second of up time showed 70th which is a good number.

when I get mine I will do longer shots and videos.

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Quote from: HagssFIN on May 07, 2019, 10:47:42 AM

Please post the vid! Grin

Here is my lazy way of posting video minus sound because I don't have a youtube account or imgur app on my phone (don't hate on me): https://imgur.com/a/90rkvjU

Video with sound is posted on Telegram if you want to re-post Hagss.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on May 07, 2019, 10:56:20 AM

I know it's killing me. On that note I wish there were more Demo/Trade show opportunities north of the border.

It's funny I just started checking the specs out again so I can be prepped for when I get mine, for some reason I thought they moved to the vertical style, but it makes my life easier that they stayed horizontal. I'm happy to hear they went with a larger fan, any reduction of noise is helpful for the home miner. The "major route" traffic only drowns them out so much.

Yeah a 140mm will be lower pitched.

I wonder if the psu fan is bigger. This psu will be a freaking beast.

In the meantime coins are testing 6k barrier right now coinbase is at $5894.00.

Steamtyme

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I know it's killing me. On that note I wish there were more Demo/Trade show opportunities north of the border.

It's funny I just started checking the specs out again so I can be prepped for when I get mine, for some reason I thought they moved to the vertical style, but it makes my life easier that they stayed horizontal. I'm happy to hear they went with a larger fan, any reduction of noise is helpful for the home miner. The "major route" traffic only drowns them out so much.

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Quote from: elokk on May 06, 2019, 06:53:15 PM

I attended a live demo this past weekend in Boston. Did not have a way to meter db but honestly sounded a bit more quiet than the Antminer s9 (not as high pitch). The fans are larger than the typical 120?mm used on the Antminers. The demo video posted by Pango sounds much louder than the demo unit I saw in person.

Seemed to run at 68T, maybe a bit higher at times, pulling 16.5 amps.

I have a video but too lazy to post on here. Pretty sexy rig to say the least.

Please post the vid! Grin

philipma1957

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Quote from: elokk on May 06, 2019, 06:53:15 PM

I attended a live demo this past weekend in Boston. Did not have a way to meter db but honestly sounded a bit more quiet than the Antminer s9 (not as high pitch). The fans are larger than the typical 120?mm used on the Antminers. The demo video posted by Pango sounds much louder than the demo unit I saw in person.

Seemed to run at 68T, maybe a bit higher at times, pulling 16.5 amps.

I have a video but too lazy to post on here. Pretty sexy rig to say the least.

I did not enough time to go to it. I am hoping to get my demo May 10 to May 20.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on April 13, 2019, 04:40:56 PM

I watched the videos and couldn't get a good idea of the noise level. Has anyone seen tested db readings?

I know it will be loud just wanting to get an idea based on what i've dealt with previously.

I attended a live demo this past weekend in Boston. Did not have a way to meter db but honestly sounded a bit more quiet than the Antminer s9 (not as high pitch). The fans are larger than the typical 120?mm used on the Antminers. The demo video posted by Pango sounds much louder than the demo unit I saw in person.

Seemed to run at 68T, maybe a bit higher at times, pulling 16.5 amps.

I have a video but too lazy to post on here. Pretty sexy rig to say the least.

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