When and How much low on next Bear Market?

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Quote from: MCobian on January 10, 2021, 05:37:19 AM

It is very interesting when we discuss when the bull market will end, because surely everyone has different opinions. Because it is very difficult
to predict the price movement of Bitcoin, even the increase in the price of Bitcoin to $ 40,000 no one expected. But usually if the Bitcoin price
increase is too high like now, usually in the near future there will be a bear market.

Based on my prediction the end of January the bull market will end, then my prediction regarding the lowest price Bitcoin that will occur in the next
bear market is that it will drop to $ 10,000. Because seeing the Bitcoin price that managed to go up above $ 40,000 if it fell back below $ 10,000
it seems unlikely. Hopefully my predictions are correct.

I disagree that it has to have a bear market very soon, after all we could potentially stay here for a while as well. Remember that 10k period? For nearly 6 months we have stayed in 10k price point , in 2019 it was really crazy because we were like 8k to 12k constantly without going any down or higher than that.

Theoretically, anything can happen (it could be dump or pump) cause the market trend is totally different from previous ATH market and evaluating the primary investors (which are the institutions) the momentum which the market will pose is determine by their decision if they choose to hold then will can only see fraction of market correction but if dump will happen that will be after the altcoin bullish end.

No man on this world would able to know on where this market will be heading.Its very unpredictable since from the start, we dont know if this one will be similar into those times that we had seen in previous years.
We dont know on how low it would go or how high it would be. Bear market is always next on the line but there are no indications on when it would happen.It can just happen without us knowing that it is already going down.
Thing here is that we do know on how to reach when this thing do happen, we do know on how to take opportunity to buy when its cheap because after such dip of price it will eventually
recover later on which means that is already a profit.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on January 18, 2021, 11:05:54 AM

Quote from: MCobian on January 10, 2021, 05:37:19 AM

It is very interesting when we discuss when the bull market will end, because surely everyone has different opinions. Because it is very difficult
to predict the price movement of Bitcoin, even the increase in the price of Bitcoin to $ 40,000 no one expected. But usually if the Bitcoin price
increase is too high like now, usually in the near future there will be a bear market.

Based on my prediction the end of January the bull market will end, then my prediction regarding the lowest price Bitcoin that will occur in the next
bear market is that it will drop to $ 10,000. Because seeing the Bitcoin price that managed to go up above $ 40,000 if it fell back below $ 10,000
it seems unlikely. Hopefully my predictions are correct.

I disagree that it has to have a bear market very soon, after all we could potentially stay here for a while as well. Remember that 10k period? For nearly 6 months we have stayed in 10k price point , in 2019 it was really crazy because we were like 8k to 12k constantly without going any down or higher than that.

Theoretically, anything can happen (it could be dump or pump) cause the market trend is totally different from previous ATH market and evaluating the primary investors (which are the institutions) the momentum which the market will pose is determine by their decision if they choose to hold then will can only see fraction of market correction but if dump will happen that will be after the altcoin bullish end.

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Quote from: MCobian on January 10, 2021, 05:37:19 AM

It is very interesting when we discuss when the bull market will end, because surely everyone has different opinions. Because it is very difficult
to predict the price movement of Bitcoin, even the increase in the price of Bitcoin to $ 40,000 no one expected. But usually if the Bitcoin price
increase is too high like now, usually in the near future there will be a bear market.

Based on my prediction the end of January the bull market will end, then my prediction regarding the lowest price Bitcoin that will occur in the next
bear market is that it will drop to $ 10,000. Because seeing the Bitcoin price that managed to go up above $ 40,000 if it fell back below $ 10,000
it seems unlikely. Hopefully my predictions are correct.

I disagree that it has to have a bear market very soon, after all we could potentially stay here for a while as well. Remember that 10k period? For nearly 6 months we have stayed in 10k price point , in 2019 it was really crazy because we were like 8k to 12k constantly without going any down or higher than that.

I believe we could have something similar to 2019 in 2021 but with a lot higher price, we will probably stay at a certain price and not move too much, not too high not too low. I am not saying it will happen at 40k, it could be at any price, it could be 30k, 35k, 40k, 50k who knows where it will be but there is a chance that could happen. Which is why I think it is quite important that we end up looking at the potential of stability more than we look at potential of bear market. Obviously you should still have some stop loss just in case anyway.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

Bitcoin is still doing (maybe) the unexpected now and the price is 40k now. In my opinion, we will see the bull market ending in 1-2 months. After that, I expect a very big decrease in the price and we could see a price around 10k. But this decrease can happen step by step. Firstly, we could see the price going down by half and stop for some time. Then it could go below 20k.

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It is very interesting when we discuss when the bull market will end, because surely everyone has different opinions. Because it is very difficult
to predict the price movement of Bitcoin, even the increase in the price of Bitcoin to $ 40,000 no one expected. But usually if the Bitcoin price
increase is too high like now, usually in the near future there will be a bear market.

Based on my prediction the end of January the bull market will end, then my prediction regarding the lowest price Bitcoin that will occur in the next
bear market is that it will drop to $ 10,000. Because seeing the Bitcoin price that managed to go up above $ 40,000 if it fell back below $ 10,000
it seems unlikely. Hopefully my predictions are correct.

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If this year the highest price reaches $ 50k, my prediction for the lowest price is $ 15k. But I don't know when that will happen. If it is true that bitcoin will fall at its lowest price, that is the right moment to buy a lot of bitcoin.

I do not expect bitcoin will go down to $15k because that can make many people who buy bitcoin at the current price will desperate.
If that happens, we will see what was going on in 2018-2019, and people will leave bitcoin forever because they are making a big loss.
If people now are smart to use the situations and profit from the price's up and down. Even if the price is down deeper, they will have the chance to use the downtrend moment to buy as many bitcoin as possible.
They will not think that they should regret it, but they will be happy to buy bitcoin at a big discount price.

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if Bitcoin stabilize at $50k and bear trend follows it's likely that Bitcoin will drop to $8000 based on available data you provided and if history follow the trend of 80% to 85% drop, but I don't think we'll have bear trend this year, we are still going to enjoy a bull run before the end of this year because many investors are still coming in.

Yep, but what I know is that there will always be a bear market in a market cycle. Since many companies are now investing in bitcoin and there are also many people who want to get their salary in bitcoin, I don't think the market will drop below $10k. maybe around $10k-15k price level would make more sense

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

I can't think at this point of when the bear market will kick in, but I have a feeling that next lowest could be around 7k to 10k mark. Let me know your thoughts.

I think we are not aware of what will be the top of this market and hence it is difficult to predict bear market target. I think if we can hit 200,000$ in this bull run, then we might go back to 40,000$ in the bear market. That's my rough estimate.

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I guess maximum is around $100K considering how the market condition anything could happen but I could hardly imagine BTC goes past $100K that easily though but maybe thats just me, if any bear market happening which i don't think it will then its gonna be a new low at around $20K-$30K, bitcoin can't afford to go lower than that because massive bitcoin buy by the large investment company they'd atleast make it hard for bitcoin to get dumped that low below $20K mark, thats just my opinion though.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 07:35:07 PM

I don't think we go that high 250k and I doubt we will even touch 100k on this bull run. I think 50k more likely but yes if we were to hit 250k then a drop to 7k-10k would be too much. I think we will not go further than 50k on this bull run but definitely will surpass that by large on next one.

I like your assessment, it's more realistic like all the others, we must not rule out the possibility of correction at more than 50% or a crash at 80% it's likely to happen, because we are in the first month of the year, we can only speculate and look at the past history of the market, I just hope this year will be different from all the past years.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

I can't think at this point of when the bear market will kick in, but I have a feeling that next lowest could be around 7k to 10k mark. Let me know your thoughts.

Sure we could go this low but not without having any fud related news that will fuel it. The last bear market was holding up quite well until the pandemic came and crash all market so the next will most likely hold strong between $20k to $25k until any fud will come pull the price downward either as a result of another pandemic or government imposing some strick restrictions/regulations on the industry.

One thing we should put into consideration before speculating on how low or high the bull and bear market of this era will go is the fact that the industry now isn't what it was few years back. Back then we didn't have institutional investors or as much as we have now in the market.

For my speculations, we could go as high as $70k then in the condition that there won't be any fud but just a correction we can go as low as $20k but if fud was to step in we can go as low as $10k.

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Quote from: JimboToronto on January 06, 2021, 09:45:47 AM

1) Minimum $80k. Maximum $500k. Likely $350k.

Never thought I'd see a "maximum" from you. Tongue

Personally I think $1M+ is possible. Maybe not probable, but if this is the vertical swing of the adoption S-curve, the magnitude could get a lot bigger than previous bubbles. I'll still be holding at $500K.

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I think the low will be the 200 WMA. Load up tradingview, add BLX and add a 200 Weekly moving average. This indicator never had a close UNDER the moving average. Back in March 2020, it went below it but it closed on the moving average and not below. I think this is a great indicator to buy the low.

Currently its at $8100. But it goes up every week. So lets assume this crazy rally last another 3 months, and then lets say the bear market starts and last 1 year, so fast forward the 200 WMA to 1.25 years in the future, I see the 200 WMA around $17500-$20000 or so.

So say we retrace 80% of the top like in most crashes and $20000 being the low, it would make the top $100K.

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Quote from: Reid on January 08, 2021, 02:08:36 PM

It could be 1/3 of the price if even it will be dumped again.
I am sure it will happen. There is always a selling moment. I think they are just holding now expecting more.
It did give them more but the "enough" thought would come and they will sell.
I hope we could also make our profits once it happens and then back to buying more bitcoin so it will scatter more instead of just whales keeping it.
Always been late when that happens. Cheesy

Agree on that line that it is too late when it happens thats why we should assumed a little bit more advance on making step but though it is a risky move.

Selling moment is really there but those big players are just waiting for the right moment to sell off.There would always be a point on where these holders
will really be selling out for profits.

Bear market? A market cant be called one if we dont have this.Correction and pullbacks are normal so be prepared for it.

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It could be 1/3 of the price if even it will be dumped again.
I am sure it will happen. There is always a selling moment. I think they are just holding now expecting more.
It did give them more but the "enough" thought would come and they will sell.
I hope we could also make our profits once it happens and then back to buying more bitcoin so it will scatter more instead of just whales keeping it.
Always been late when that happens. Cheesy

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Quote from: ningrum on January 06, 2021, 06:56:07 PM

$ 4000 is the last level, of course this is an interesting conversation for the bearish price of bitcoin going forward, and I think $ 20k is a strong level for bitcoin, yes, even if bitcoin stops bullish at $ 36300, then the strongest support so it doesn't get dumped in is $ 20000. don't expect too deep anymore, we are entering a new era

You cant say such thing because dump can really happen into this very unpredictable market.We cant remove the impression that those technicals
and plotting those supports doesnt ensure that those can hold up when a drop or crash do happen. Saying 20k is a hard support? You cant tell
until it would be tested out.Just dont be too confident just because you are seeing peaks, secure your position while we are still in a good run.
Position and never be greedy because you might really get caught in the middle when the price tends to make some serious correction.

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After a long waiting period of mostly 3 years after 2017 market crash we are seeing price rally and btc reaching ATH of $35-$40k this week but still the small corrections are taking place like in the last week when prices went down by 2-3% but shortly it sparked again to take over $30000.So we can expect Bull run to continue this year for long period mostly $90-150k until we saw a major crash of nearly 85-90% of price drop but still it would not go down by $12-$15k even at that time.The main reason is people slowly investing in it but at this time huge investments are made in the Bitcoin along with involvement of major institutions like PayPal, MicroStrategy holding and dealing in crypto transactions which boost the prices upwards.So we are not going to see bearish trend soon as whales manipulate the prices by creating FUD's in the market to dump the prices and make huge profits again.So have patience and stay calm and enjoy your profits in the right time.

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The price of the most bearish sentiment and price action in trading to start this week was 28k and on Thursday with its sell and just earlier we fell back to 37k at our most negative pricing the lows are still increasing in such a frothy way its harder to predict overall but I think after a wider reset it will be clearer over days when viewed in something of a yearly view. Right now I find no good reason for price to change this much so quickly so I consider prices inaccurate and unknown at the moment.
We usually measure lows relative to the highs of the previous peak so people would go off 20k but I think the 14k of 2019 was more solid, as a compromise I'll go with the 200 day average which sits between those two roughly. Its a changing situation and thats a live measure, not so prone to hype and frothy prices and overall its still rising most of the time as is BTC; I recommend and commend 200 DMA to the forum Cheesy

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$ 4000 is the last level, of course this is an interesting conversation for the bearish price of bitcoin going forward, and I think $ 20k is a strong level for bitcoin, yes, even if bitcoin stops bullish at $ 36300, then the strongest support so it doesn't get dumped in is $ 20000. don't expect too deep anymore, we are entering a new era

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

Bitcoin is on an epic rally but looking at history the bear markets mostly drives price down to around 85%. Just 2 simple questions....

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

I can't think at this point of when the bear market will kick in, but I have a feeling that next lowest could be around 7k to 10k mark. Let me know your thoughts.

No one knows!

We can put up numbers and make out those comparisons but it isnt something that can really be predicted thats why its really hard to tell numbers because
if we do know on where it would be going then we can save up our own asses when price corrections do happen.

Basing off on the level of adoption we do have now then its not bad to presume that we wont really be crashing that hard compared to the past events.

Lots of strong supports in belows 29k 25k 22k and 19k. Breaking these supports might able to hold off but well its all presumption.

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