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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

Probably around minimum of $90k and maximum of $195k

Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

If it's started just after $90k, than $35k to $45k and on the other hand, it might be fall back to $72k to $78k, imo.

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The fundamental factor still good, so I don't think the bull run market will come to end. So, I just predict this bull run market will come when its price touch $70.000.

As for when the bear market come and make the price fall then I'll have a prediction that the lower price that could be reached is $20.000, which is this price is the strong support now.

Keep update the fundamental factor if you doubt to keep hold your bitcoin or at least it will make you believe that to buy bitcoin at the current price is still worth.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

1) Minimum $80k. Maximum $500k. Likely $350k.

2) Depends on how high the top goes. Minimum $20k. Maximum $120K. Likely $60k-$80k.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

Actually, it is hard to tell because I think the bull run is just starting and there's no sign right now, in fact, it still continues surging up. Perhaps, institutions are not yet done accumulating. Thereby, I think the rally will run more several months. I don't know when exactly it will end because it is still beyond the knowledge of people after all.

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2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

Well, if Bitcoin does continue to grow even more and I don't think it will fall more than $20k because if you will think, today's growth is now much stronger and firm because institutions, large companies and more are now venturing up, to simply say massive adoption unlike we had before which is only caused by FOMO.

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I'm totally clueless about the Bitcoin market.I can't make any Bitcoin price speculations anymore. Grin

During the last summer,I was expecting a 15K USD price at the end of 2020 and January 2021.I was wrong.
Now,I'm expecting the bull market to end in February,but I might be wrong again.
We live in crazy times and the Bitcoin market is crazy right now.
I'm waiting for China to legalize crypto trading,so we could see a 100K+ USD Bitcoin price in 2021.
I have a feeling that 2021 is going to be crazier than 2020,in both a good and a bad way. Undecided

Anything can happen...

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 06, 2021, 03:00:07 AM

As long as these institutional investors aren't participating in the actual market that are the bitcoin exchanges (about 10 of them) they can not change that much about the trend. If for example newbies on Coinbase, Bitstamp, Kraken, Huobi, Gemeni,... panic sell then the price will crash no matter how many institutional investors are buying off the exchanges in their own little centralized companies.
That's the same with rising, that is also why I have been saying that the effects of institutional investors is not as big as people are making it to be.

They might not have THAT much of a significant effect compared to something like a whale buying up a huge amount of coins on spot exchanges, but I'd say institutions taking out a huge chunk of BTC out of circulation also has a notable effect; but it's definitely not something we would sort of "feel" immediately.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 06, 2021, 01:40:03 AM

I personally think there's a slight chance that the percentage drop after the peak won't be as high as we had in the past.

I really don't want to be the "this time it's different!" kind of guy(because it almost always doesn't end well), I think there might be a sliiight chance that it might be the case; as assuming that there's a significant amount of money of institutional investors in bitcoin right now(and continue to flood in), it's safe to assume that they aren't the "panic seller" kind of investor like how most of retail is.

Exactly. I would only expect a big huge bear market and 80% drop this time around if at some point retail investors FOMO in like crazy and end up driving the price up to like $300k+ this year. I don't think retail investors will FOMO into Bitcoin as hard anymore, plus institutions won't be panic selling like retail investors, so if a bear market does happen next year, it will won't be as deep or as long. The longest I would expect to see would be maybe a year to drop and come back up, instead of the normal 3 years, but I think even something as long as a year seems very unlikely, maybe just a correction for a few months is the most likely thing to happen.

As others have been calling, the narrative has change, before bitcoin was being traded for pure speculative asset, but now that institutions and companies are hedging around, the price could really be on a massive spike as long as they are going to buy regardless if we are in a dip or not.

Corrections will be shallow this time, minor pullbacks, but I think the 4 year cycle will also change, we might see 6 year bull cycle now.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 06, 2021, 01:40:03 AM

there's a significant amount of money of institutional investors in bitcoin right now(and continue to flood in), it's safe to assume that they aren't the "panic seller" kind of investor like how most of retail is.

As long as these institutional investors aren't participating in the actual market that are the bitcoin exchanges (about 10 of them) they can not change that much about the trend. If for example newbies on Coinbase, Bitstamp, Kraken, Huobi, Gemeni,... panic sell then the price will crash no matter how many institutional investors are buying off the exchanges in their own little centralized companies.
That's the same with rising, that is also why I have been saying that the effects of institutional investors is not as big as people are making it to be.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 06, 2021, 01:40:03 AM

I personally think there's a slight chance that the percentage drop after the peak won't be as high as we had in the past.

I really don't want to be the "this time it's different!" kind of guy(because it almost always doesn't end well), I think there might be a sliiight chance that it might be the case; as assuming that there's a significant amount of money of institutional investors in bitcoin right now(and continue to flood in), it's safe to assume that they aren't the "panic seller" kind of investor like how most of retail is.

Exactly. I would only expect a big huge bear market and 80% drop this time around if at some point retail investors FOMO in like crazy and end up driving the price up to like $300k+ this year. I don't think retail investors will FOMO into Bitcoin as hard anymore, plus institutions won't be panic selling like retail investors, so if a bear market does happen next year, it will won't be as deep or as long. The longest I would expect to see would be maybe a year to drop and come back up, instead of the normal 3 years, but I think even something as long as a year seems very unlikely, maybe just a correction for a few months is the most likely thing to happen.

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In this Q1 this year, the bitcoin price will have a big chance to increase still, but it is hard to know what will happen to bitcoin. We already saw the bitcoin price get down below $30k, but the price can back to increase, and finally, we see the price hit $35k again. After reaching $35k, the price is back to low price, and now, the price is at $34,600, so maybe this is a low price, and you can use this price as your entry to buy bitcoin. But if you want to buy bitcoin at a lower price than now, you can wait for that and prepare your money to buy.

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I hope that the bear market would not come this year, but I assume it will result in Q3 or Q4 this year of 2021 because this time, everything is so different. Our speculation about bitcoin's price will only reach its $20K price, and after that, it will go down. But it all turns out bitcoin has surpassed its $20K price and created its new ATH, which is $35K because more people and institutions are continuously buying and holding their bitcoin.

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I took the average drop of the 4 drops base on the picture and it is -86% and plotted it into the chart.
If it will happen again, most probably it will drop from around $35,000 as of this moment to ~$4000 that is -86%.

Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

Right now, Bitcoin is hard to predict where this bull market will end.
It really is hard to predict what will happen next in crypto literally but to know when this bull run end, no one knows and its hard to know where.
It can be at $40,000 or at $45,000 or at $36,000.

Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

The red candle that Bitcoin did days ago is a hammer and it is a bullish signal. The bottom of it can be a new support so my first support is at $31,895.05 if the bias will not happen and it will go the other way. Its hard to plot too where will be the support since it is in a parabolic rise but my next support is at $29,000 base on Fib.

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I personally think there's a slight chance that the percentage drop after the peak won't be as high as we had in the past.

I really don't want to be the "this time it's different!" kind of guy(because it almost always doesn't end well), I think there might be a sliiight chance that it might be the case; as assuming that there's a significant amount of money of institutional investors in bitcoin right now(and continue to flood in), it's safe to assume that they aren't the "panic seller" kind of investor like how most of retail is.

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The bear market won't occur until bitcoin hit the peak which probably in Q4 of this year, what we should consider for now is when bitcoin might encounter the next phase of correction after all this rally. If bitcoin manages to hit $100k by the end of the year, an 80% drop means the price $20k, if refer to the history it could happen in January 2021, but nothing for sure.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?
2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

1) It is way too soon to even think about the bear market let alone want to predict when it will start! It is like trying to predict the bear market in January 2017 when price just broke $1200.
First we have to see at least 6 month of bull market and a couple of crashes with two dozen corrections then we have to end up in a massive bubble where the in-flow of fresh money starts to slow down then we can talk about bubble burst and the subsequent bear market.
2) Possible another 80% below the peak of the next bubble. So probably somewhere between $100k and $200k.

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1. This bull run could take us up to $100k and more than that. And it can end, maybe by next year. There will be little corrections for this year but it is recovering fastly.

2. I guess we won't see $20k and below again.

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I believe the bitcoin price does not reach the high peak and it will still increase. We don't know how much the highest price or new ATH because there is no right sign for that, and we can only predict how high the price increased. And if the high price is at $75k-$100k, then we have many lowest price that can happen later, but I think no matter how high the price, the price can get down to any lowest price without we can predict. Bitcoin price can jump to the high price or the low price anytime, and we will not know the time. But we are about to see the bull run, and it already started a few months ago, and it still happens until today.

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Bitcoin will definitely go over $100k this bull run. We're still in the early stages of the bull run with a long time left to go. I'm not convinced there will be a long bear market like the last two cycles. Institutional buyers are changing the game. The previous crashes and bear markets were because all the FOMOing retail investors panic sold and crashed the price down and then were too afraid to come back into the market. But now the drivers of the market are institutions who are buying to hold long term and will keep buying for years to come.

Bitcoin could do something like go to $150k this year and then have like a 50% correction over the course of a few months. I don't see anything worse than that happening. Because when the price drops institutions would just start buying again and there would be another massive supply shortage which would send the price shooting back upwards ever higher. So if the price goes to $100k-$150k this year and then there is a smaller bear market I doubt it will go below $50k.

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Quote from: Gabrielexas on January 05, 2021, 04:59:07 PM

Bitcoin is on an epic rally but looking at history the bear markets mostly drives price down to around 85%. Just 2 simple questions....

1) Where do you guys predict the bull market to end?

2) What is your prediction of the lowest price bitcoin will go again on next bear market?

I can't think at this point of when the bear market will kick in, but I have a feeling that next lowest could be around 7k to 10k mark. Let me know your thoughts.

It can happen tomorrow or in the next year who knows , we are all giving speculations here .

I doubt that there will be Bear market coming soon ,or in the whole 2021 , and even if there will for sure not bad like what on the listed dates.

The lowest this market can lose is at least 40% because having ripple on the deep situation ,investors seems to be going to the safest coin and that is BTC.

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Quote from: jackg on January 05, 2021, 05:12:45 PM

If the predictions of 250+k are met then I imagine us to drop to no lower than the last ath but realistically around $25-35k.

If it doesn't and we only go up to $50-100 then I would expect anywhere from $6-12k atm. I don't think it's likely we'll see $2-4k/btc unless something catastrophic happens.

I don't think we go that high 250k and I doubt we will even touch 100k on this bull run. I think 50k more likely but yes if we were to hit 250k then a drop to 7k-10k would be too much. I think we will not go further than 50k on this bull run but definitely will surpass that by large on next one.

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