Topic: When will the real bull run begin? - page 3. (Read 948 times)

Totally depends on what coin that you are really that holding whether it would really be taking up some shot on upcoming bull run or not but if we do speak or talking about those known and established coins then we could really be able to tell that it is really indeed worth on doing so on holding up for too long. It would really be that a test of patience as we do all know when dealing up with crypto space but of course there would really be that specific time or perfect moment on which you would really be needing to sell out and secure your profits. Why? if its on peak then sell those coins and secure profits and on the time that the market would be having that bearish mode then you could be always have the choice on making up some buybacks and accumulating even more coins since it would really be much more cheaper.

Yeah, it might sound that too simple and easy then its not. When you are on the actual situation then making out such decision would really be that something which is pain in the ass.
You dont even know on how you would really be able to start up yourself.

If you are not satisfied with the profit you have gotten so far in hodling you just need to keep hodling, this is not a time to faint because the long bull market that we have been waiting for a very longtime is just here. Hodling will be of good benefit and their is no need to be panic. We just need to be patience to hit the target of getting a good profit because selling now can lead to regret later on.  You can really predict when the real bull run will begin but it is not far. I don't see why one would want to sell when dip inside of them they are not satisfied with the profit they have been able to get from their hodling.

I still believe that what happened in the past can be used as a reference for what happened again in the future, even though it is not exactly the same, there are many things that can be matched.

Usually after a Bitcoin halving we don't immediately see significant price movements, on the contrary, there is a price correction that occurs as is happening now, but the slow increase in Bitcoin prices that occurs after the Bitcoin halving will have a big impact, that's what happened in the past and I believe that will also happen in the future.

I've already said it many times here in the forum, we don't have an accurate date when will the market is going to move since market movement cannot really be predicted for sure, but the pattern that we could rely on is on the Bitcoin halving timeline, If we are going to base on that the possible date is going to be 2025 since its about 365 days usually around 1 year after the Bitcoin Halving that is where we could see a huge rally where the Bullrun could comes.

You have already held for a long time already and invested your money accumulating Bitcoin I would say that one more year is not really going to actually hurt in the end, either way, it would still depend on how are you going to plan your exit, but if you have a good financial foundation you could easily survive bear market it doesn't really matter I guess if your planning to hold long term anyway, just make sure you have other sources of income and for sure you could hold until the Bullrun.

That's right, my friend and no one can guess it accurately, it's just that Bai, who is observant of the market and has experienced, repeat after repetition will occur and surely loyal declines will always have his name worn.

Well, to make it easier we can see from the issues that are happening today, for example, if Mr. Powell has said, usually the market will react if it is positive, but if it is negative, be prepared immediately with a decline.

However, whatever the story, if the long-term investment pattern is like in BTC, it will be safe and there is no need to worry about when it goes up, when it will go down.

I don't think there is a bull run on 2016 and 2020 but the bull run have occurred in 2017 and 2021. It's not within 160 days but the point is, there is still a good delay before we can see the positive effect of the halving. This halving year is unique because ATH was created before the event.

This actually make things easier for us. I don't get the 'last quarter of 2023' part but it seems you are talking about a pattern here. Why can't you just go with the flow or follow it? I mean that if it's bullish up until now, then there is a chance that it might continue. The halving correction you are talking about are for sure have happened already and this means we can now see a recovery and increase shortly.

We do have that so called market cycle on which we know that it could happen 4-5 years on which it would really be composed with that bearish or bullish market on which it would really be something that everyone would really be able to experience on. This is why as an investor then you should really know on what you should gonna do when it comes to accumulation and on the moment that you would really be able to hit up your selling moment on which these things would really be that crucial or something that you would really be mainly be needed.
When bull run begins? No one really knows but pretty much sure it do happens after halving event of bitcoin and this is something that cant be determined speaking about the exact date.

The real bullrun you are referring to is something that has been going on for four years now so everyone will hope for another real bullrun this year even though the conditions are quite different from four years ago. Today Bitcoin is still below $60K and not too far from that range, but on the other hand I also see altcoins that have started to increase their prices by several percent which I also haven't researched the effect of this because Bitcoin only increased slightly from the price decrease which happened at the end of last month and the beginning of this month.

That's just my temporary thought, I don't expect that to happen but I won't rule it out until bull season actually arrives. After all, we all don't know what will happen next, we don't have any reliable data to say for sure that bull season will come after every halving. Although it happened 3 times in the past, there is no guarantee that it will repeat without change. Just like the scenario of bitcoin reaching ATH before halving is also something no one expected and believed would happen until it happened. Bitcoin is unpredictable, mate.

Know that hodling takes a lot of patience, and the moment you decide to hold, your focus should be sticking to what you have started and shouldn’t be bothered anymore with price fluctuations that will push or pull the price down. Bull run will eventually come in time, but since no one knows when it’s going to happen, then there’s no other choice but to wait and hold patiently, that is if you want to stick to your goal without putting your investment in compromised.

That's just one drawback though, that's why we said that we should invest what we can afford to lose. And then at least some fiat base income from businesses or job so that you can't touch your Bitcoin holdings. But I do agree though, in 2022, there was one emergency in our family and I have to withdraw at least some weeks of my DCA. But I was able to get it back, I mean invested money again to cover what I've "lost". As for the title of the thread, we will have to wait till everything settles down, yeah we are in the downsized, but this is just another test and I think if we look at short term, we are still going to make a good run at the end of the year, maybe around $80k at least and reaches new all time high. But the top of the bull run will be 2025, 6 digit figure and this is what we all have been waiting for to happen.

Holding is a great thing if you are capable of doing, but the worst sometimes happens and that's just something we can't really get over. What is the worst? Well you are holding, and you are aware that you should be holding, and you are even willing to hold, but then you need the money for some emergency and have to sell and use that money, and you watch it go up. That's exactly what's going to happen to me and there is really nothing that will be doing all that fine for me, we just have to accept that fact.

I believe that we are not going to get anything insane, it is not going to be all that complicated, we just need to realize that things are what they are, and we are going to end up with as much of a trouble as we can sometimes.

Ticer - real bull run to me is when my altcoins are pumping massively every other day.

We experienced it a few months ago and it was nice but im waiting for that parabolic stage.

If u look at the Bitcoin chart from September 2020 to March 2021 - that is the run I am referring to when I say ‘real bull run’

Isn't there some contradiction in your post? First of all, you don't consider this a real bull run, but I think that some of the investors got spoiled along the way because they have too often watched the graph on Coinmarketcap when BTC went from cents to thousands of dollars. The definition of a bull run has changed in my eyes. Within one year BTC has increased by 100%. There are not a lot of assets giving you 100% within 12 months. For some who sold at above 70k, it was much more than that.

But some here are ignoring the numbers behind these runs and under which circumstances they took place. When you look at the LOG graph on Coinmarketcap, BTC has been steadily going up. Back at the time when BTC was in the cents or the dollars, millions on inflow were able to move the market price significantly. Now if you want to double the BTC price, you need about a trillion to flow into BTC. $1,000,000,000,000 - or one thousand billions of dollars.

In my opinion when BTC doubles in price these days, then it could definitely be called bullish. It is crazy how much money is needed to move the price that much. That's why I am surprised that some still think it is time for BTC to go 10x in no time. I believe that BTC can go 10x, but unlikely that this is going to happen in no time.

That's why I would like to understand what a real bull run is as per your definition? 

Having this knowledge of a by 4months interval for a possible Bullrun after the halving and haven’t bought Bitcoin at a low through 2022 till now, you really shouldn’t be troubled with the Bitcoin price. For what is worth, you’ve got the experience and your in profit. Holding should come easy to you when your in profit.
Many users who find it difficult to hold at times are users that find price way below where they bought and even then, your knowledge and awareness of Bitcoin history through its price is what strengthens your holding abilities.

You know it’s normal to feel that way since we are in all waiting to reap massive profits. But since we don’t hold when will be the final bull run, then hodling to its maximum level should be practiced, and should never worry if price correction is delaying our profits. Bitcoin price will eventually recover and move upward soon, we only need  to be more patient as much as we can.

For the meantime, it’s best to just focus on accumulating more bitcoin on our spare money. Bitcoin bull run will eventually come, even if it means taking a year before it finally hits the market.

For this cycle and for those upcoming ones then there's no way that we could be able to tell on when bull run kicks in. Basing up into the previous ones then it would really be something in between 6-9 months
but as of this upcoming then there's no way whether it could happen on 3 months or 1 year or whatever duration it would do. There's no way on telling it out on when it would be starting to kick.
Mind it off that we might be seeing those small pumps or increase but on a slow pace manner on which people wont be finding out that we are gradually increasing. Breaking new all time highs
and then make out those deep corrections and then bounce back with a new all time high. It is really that totally unpredictable and there's no way that we could really be able to know on when it would happen.

Pretty sure that majority of us really that waiting for that last deep or correction before taking up any position because we do know specially to those old timers that there would really be that last
dip or correction before this market would really be starting to go into the moon.

Funny enough, I get more worried about Bitcoin when it's just rising within a short period. When something like that happens it's usually because of FOMO. Probably because a news or rumor is out and people speculate that Bitcoin will rise. It also shows that there may be manipulation. The bottom line is, the price corrects after a short time. But when Bitcoin climbs up slowly, there is a pretty high chance it will stay that way and be stable like that for a long time.

Bitcoin is at 60k now when most, including me, speculated it would be above 70k by now, but there's no point to be alarmed. Just keep holding and give it more time. But if there are people who feel they can't, they might as well sell.

I will say don't expect too much from BTC only, but you can expect too much from some good alts because alts sometimes give 10x to 100x easily but at the current price BTC might not give 2x even though I know many might be hoping that it would easily give more than 2x but I am considering the 2x from the CMP so that's why I said we should not raise hopes with something that can't be fulfilled. Overall, we should control on our emotions, I don't know how much profit are you making but I think we should book profit when we know we have made enough like the market can give us not more than what we have gained.

At that time I will say start booking the seed profit because market when was near $73k I did not booked the seed profit, and then I was in $500 loss, after the loss was recovered I still did not booked because I was looking at the biggest picture, my journey is from 2023 and your is 2022 then I assume you must have booked from $18k too. Well, if that's the case you already be making more than 4x to 5x at the moment. But keep in mind that expecting another 4x or 5x from the cmp of BTC is idiotic. No offense.

It looks like the price is dumping for now, I don’t think this is anything to worry about. We are where we should be really, the action is tracking previous cycles. It seems $60,000 is not going to hold this time. There is nothing to panic about though, just a normal mid bull run correction.