When will the USA go to WAR? - page 3.

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Quote from: aysha9822 on May 25, 2014, 12:13:14 AM

The only way that can save US from falling from the world stage is another World War. Their will be a world within 10 years.

Another world war could mean the complete disintegration of the United States as a nation. Especially, if China and Russia could form an alliance against it, with support from Iran, DPRK, Venezuela.etc.

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The only way that can save US from falling from the world stage is another World War. Their will be a world within 10 years.

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Quote from: LittleD on May 01, 2014, 12:06:35 PM

There is an Appointed TIME for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven—
2A time to give birth and a time to die;
A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted.

3A time to KILL and a time to heal;
A time to tear down and a time to build up.

4A time to weep and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn and a time to dance.

5A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing.

6A time to search and a time to give up as lost;
A time to keep and a time to throw away.

7A time to tear apart and a time to sew together;
A time to be silent and a time to speak.

8A time to LOVE and a time to HATE;
A time for WAR and a time for PEACE.

We have to face it the US will go to WAR sooooooner than later Sad

The Russians and North Korean's are Preparing for something... Evil is at hand and the only way you can destroy Evil is by going to WAR.

You've evidently had a bucket over your head for the last 25 years or so.

The USA has been at has effectively been at war with someone since 1991 and currently is operating on a war-based economy.

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Knowledge is Power

The US is always at war. Drones, Afghanistan, and I'm sure there's plenty of dark-ops operations that we don't know anything about. Now to start an open, large-scale conflict...that is difficult to say. The politicians know they can't be so belligerent as to do another Vietnam or Iraq...the public is fed up with their lies and will not support another large military undergoing, unless there is a VERY good reason, like Russia attacking Poland or something.

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Quote from: negafen on May 24, 2014, 11:01:34 AM

Looks like US is targeting Russia economically.

The US cannot target Russia economically, without destroying itself. Russia is the world's no.1 producer and exporter of petroleum, nuclear fuel and natural gas. Without the Russian supplies, crude oil will be trading at $300-$500 per barrel. This will result in financial ruin for the United States, which is the world's largest importer of petroleum right now. Grin

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The US is targeting any country that will not submit to the Rothschild bankers. Just look at what happened to Libya.

We tried to do the same to Syria, but Russia and China said "No."

Ukraine is strategic because Russia needs them to supply their oil to the rest of Europe.

So what happens in Ukraine? USA- backed coup followed by mainstream news propaganda.

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Looks like US is targeting Russia economically.

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The atomic explosions organized by North Korea were more or less a fiasco. It seems they used plutonium bombs and couldn't do a proper implosion necessary to make the bomb explode with all its power.

They have quite a lot of weapons, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
but much much less than, say, the United States. I doubt the U.S. will start a war in North Korea. In the past they had conquered the entire peninsula, but China got involved and finally they got where they are today. If China would get involved again it would mean a disaster for the U.S.

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Quote from: sana8410 on May 24, 2014, 08:40:06 AM

Clearly, the times are gone when US could bully Russia as a “defeated nation” (which was never the case really, for those uninformed, I highly suggest Stephen Cohen lectures on the subject, staring with “US betrayal of Russia”), it’s time to either be partners or adversaries.

Well... it is very simple.

From 1991 to 2000, the United States could dominate Russia, since they could bribe the drunkard Yeltsin. When Putin assumed office in 2000, things changed. But it was not a sudden change. Putin painstakingly and slowly rebuilt the lost glory of Russia, without appearing to be hostile to the United States (at least in the initial years).

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Quote from: Rigon on May 23, 2014, 02:27:39 PM

United States would be mad to get into a situation where a military confrontation with Russia were even possible. Unfortunately, this does not mean that such a situation would not be possible in the right circumstances.
Nobody would have thought that the assassination of an Austrian archduke and his wife could produce the firestorm of World War I. Some historians have said that either side in that war would have been better off if it had accepted the other side’s most extreme terms at the outset. Theodore Roosevelt had a good point about “speaking softly and carrying a big stick.” Vainglorious ranting of “we are all Ukrainians now” is something that should be avoided, not encouraged.

Clearly, the times are gone when US could bully Russia as a “defeated nation” (which was never the case really, for those uninformed, I highly suggest Stephen Cohen lectures on the subject, staring with “US betrayal of Russia”), it’s time to either be partners or adversaries.

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Quote from: r34tr783tr78 on May 23, 2014, 11:10:39 PM

The atomic explosions organized by North Korea were more or less a fiasco. It seems they used plutonium bombs and couldn't do a proper implosion necessary to make the bomb explode with all its power.

May be... but they are rumored to be in the possession of a few nuclear weapons, smuggled in from Ukraine at the time of disintegration of the Soviet Union. Can't take them lightly.

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The atomic explosions organized by North Korea were more or less a fiasco. It seems they used plutonium bombs and couldn't do a proper implosion necessary to make the bomb explode with all its power.

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United States would be mad to get into a situation where a military confrontation with Russia were even possible. Unfortunately, this does not mean that such a situation would not be possible in the right circumstances.
Nobody would have thought that the assassination of an Austrian archduke and his wife could produce the firestorm of World War I. Some historians have said that either side in that war would have been better off if it had accepted the other side’s most extreme terms at the outset. Theodore Roosevelt had a good point about “speaking softly and carrying a big stick.” Vainglorious ranting of “we are all Ukrainians now” is something that should be avoided, not encouraged.

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I Think one day USA will surely fight
But i don't now when exactly .
Maybe enemy in War is North Korea , because North Korea prepare Weapon for War with USA
Thats just my opinion

North Korea is a nuclear power. So I don't think that the Americans will provoke a fight with them. If such a battle ever happens, it will be extremely expensive for the Americans. North Korea is no Libya or Iraq, to be conquered within a few days.

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Well the US is at war as we speak. But the world (the people atleast) seems to be very anti-war right now so a real outbreak of war is probably unlikely, or would probably end up in a revolution or somethinf

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USA = world imperator, but everyday less and less

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US will go to war if the market tank again.

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Quote from: solarion on May 21, 2014, 09:54:54 AM

Sure, the US has the best propaganda ministry hands down.

Thanks to the state run media and expertly managed .gov psyop program many sheeple in the US don't even know their goobermint is slaughtering people all over the globe in their name. If you tell them, they deny it. If you provide incontrovertible proof of US global terror operations they become defensive and disconnect. Soon dancing with the stars(or some other mindless crap) will chase those unpleasant thoughts away and they will get back to what's really important...stacking more inflationary cotton dollars.

Drones are worth their weight in gold because as long as there isn't a steady stream of caskets coming back with US flags draped over them there is no war. When the drones are used to kill Americans abroad it's because they were "bad guys". The foreign women, children, and men being slaughtered, the entire families being obliterated, the entire communities being destroyed by us terror strikes are "collateral damage" in the undeclared war on terror.

That's true, most of the population is distracted and asleep and many others simply won't care as long as their lives aren't affected (though they always are in the end). But you also have to consider that many others simply can't handle that on top of the difficulties of just living day to day, maybe spending the whole day at work (sometimes more than one) and then coming home to take care of their families. And then, even if they are aware of it, a good portion will always think there's nothing they can do about it and tune out. Maybe that's one of the reasons that often changes come from student movements, not having yet been burdened by all that - though the student debt probably takes care of that nowadays.

Quote from: solarion on May 21, 2014, 09:54:54 AM

After all the US was allegedly attacked by some saudi nationals 13 years ago...obviously the slaughter in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, etc is necessary for the security of soccer moms in idaho.

And the Saudis themselves, apparently having helped organize the whole thing, were never bothered with it... who cares if they attacked the US; they're a useful ally, for now, so let's go slaughter a more convenient and easy target. After all, the defense contractors are making a killing either way (sorry about the pun).

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Sure, the US has the best propaganda ministry hands down.

Thanks to the state run media and expertly managed .gov psyop program many sheeple in the US don't even know their goobermint is slaughtering people all over the globe in their name. If you tell them, they deny it. If you provide incontrovertible proof of US global terror operations they become defensive and disconnect. Soon dancing with the stars(or some other mindless crap) will chase those unpleasant thoughts away and they will get back to what's really important...stacking more inflationary cotton dollars.

Drones are worth their weight in gold because as long as there isn't a steady stream of caskets coming back with US flags draped over them there is no war. When the drones are used to kill Americans abroad it's because they were "bad guys". The foreign women, children, and men being slaughtered, the entire families being obliterated, the entire communities being destroyed by us terror strikes are "collateral damage" in the undeclared war on terror.

After all the US was allegedly attacked by some saudi nationals 13 years ago...obviously the slaughter in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, etc is necessary for the security of soccer moms in idaho.

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Quote from: MisterDD on May 02, 2014, 02:13:23 AM

I hope that whole world will stop wars. Scientists say that we use about 11% of brains, well when you see how many wars we have, it does not looks like that. There is still many countries which want to take something what is not their on hard way. People are weird, that is easy word for real condition

Scientists don't say that. If they did, you could also hear them say something along the lines of: "oh, you were lucky; the bullet passed through the 90% of your brain that you don't use, so there was no damage". That obviously doesn't happen. Tongue

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Quote from: umair127 on May 02, 2014, 02:55:58 PM

There could be war within 5 years. As China and Russia became more powerful they became more bolder, they want to gain control. And USA would not let that happen. A simple mistake in calculation there could be war.

Stop this BS. China and Russia are not going to attack anyone. It is the US which is invading other countries for their oil and gas. Your post reminds me of the Hollywood BS propaganda, where the evil Russians try to destroy the world, only to be defeated by the American heroes. Ohoho... Americans save the world once again... what sort of bull crap?

The US does have much better propaganda than they do, which allows the story to always be framed in the context of US defending itself (even if on the other side of the planet) and the current targets to be seen as the aggressors (even if they are a third world nation that has had practically no contact with the outside world).

That said, and to be fair, China and Russia as well as many other large powerful countries, are as aggressive as they think they can get away with within their sphere of influence. Now, of course their reach is vastly smaller than that of the US and they are far less aggressive than the US overall, but they aren't holy enlightened states; they're nations like any other, with many of the same ambitions and faults.

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