Topic: Where is Ragingazn628? (Read 1868 times)

I just have one thing to say: if there's people stupid enough to give $100k's to an anonymous guy on the interwebz, without asking and checking his ID, etc., or at the very least without having a trusted moderator to verify all his personal details (ID, home address, etc.), then the fault is all on the people who handed over the money to that anonymous guy on the interwebz.

I've managed group buys here and I always sent my passport, ID, utility bills, etc. to the people that were trusting me with their money. Otherwise, is just too easy to run with it - don't you think so?

He said he was going to offer PCBs, too. No news on that front.


That is a reasonable compromise.


Then don't take $100k of other peoples' money.


Do you actually have any reason for the argument that it puts other orders at risk? The people that don't transfer their chips still have their records intact, and he can't ship more (or less, hopefully) chips than he's accounted for.

this is not about you wrenchmonkey, so save your personal stories for an audience that cares.  also please stop repeating your platitudes, they're tired.

Based on WHAT? His part of the bargain was to place an order on behalf of the group, and then ship to the people he ordered on behalf of once the chips arrive.

Nowhere did he sign up to be anybody's personal secretary/accountant/mommy.

The chips aren't anywhere near shipping yet, so he has no responsibility to sit around an monitor the forums, just in case somebody wants to change horses mid-race, or whatever. Not his responsibility. Not the job he signed up for.

If I were him, I'd charge a fee for people who wanted to change their orders up after the fact. Time is money, and when you have to make special accommodations to every person who went off half-cocked, and bought things they couldn't afford, or have buyers remorse after the fact, time gets expensive real quick.

I travel a few times a year, and occasionally spend 15-20 days at a time without getting online beyond monitoring my phone for any legitimate emergencies. Sometimes I might jump online really quickly on my phone to check up on something of interest, etc, but that doesn't mean that I get on once, and I'm suddenly responsible to answer every single email or message I've received.

There's any number of valid reasons why he might not respond immediately (or at all) to people making demands that weren't part of the original deal. Even if it WAS part of the original deal, there's still plenty of time before chips will be shipping, so he's not obligated to put a 'rush' on your requests.

Failure to plan, on your (or somebody else's) part, does not constitute and emergency on his part. Period. Full Stop. End of story.


No, because it puts HUNDREDS of people's orders at risk, just for the convenience of ONE PERSON, who can't be bothered to stick to his commitment. That's not entitlement to look out for the group as a whole. What's entitled is expecting that it's okay to put the risk of EVERYBODY's order getting screwed up aside, in favor of benefitting ONE person, who doesn't have the testicular fortitude to complete the transaction that he agreed to. Can't keep your word? Fine. Why should that be everybody else's problem, and not YOUR problem?

The group (and its individual members) have a vested interest in making sure that a few deadbeats don't screw things up for the rest of the group (and its individual members).


He CAN'T? What part of the agreement said he had to be in constant contact with every individual member of the group buy? Once the chips ship from Avalon, he has a responsibility to ship them out. That's it. No part of the agreement says he has to be caught up in the crosstalk that takes place in the weeks/months before the chips arrive at his door.

True. Hope at least you requested for his ID, etc. to be reviewed by mods. You simply do not give such amount of money to a random guy on the interwebz without having his info checked.

no offense, but isn't this only relevant if the chips haven't been ordered?  If they've been ordered I assume John K has already had to forward the btc to Avalon, hence limited protection here.

if they guy hasn't reply me for 6 long days I also would be concern, you have to understand the position he is in 

https://109.201.133.65/index.php?topic=177994.msg2237210#msg2237210

John K has PM'd him to check in with the thread. What more do you want?

Stamp your feet all you want. Remedy is get in touch with JOHN K.... as I told you. If you want to play games here go right ahead. I will be waiting patiently while you beat a drum and scream from the roof tops.

Again: did you use escrow?

Wow, you want to talk about entitlement? Nobody else is allowed to transfer their chips because you're worried it might cause clerical errors for yours, huh?

6 days with no response from a guy responsible for almost $100k in chips is reason for concern. He's not obligated to change anything in the orders, but he can't be completely out of contact when we're trusting him with that kind of money.

I see it as LESS work for him and that keeps all our orders in the current format and there will be ZERO transposition errors. If he told you that fine I have no issue then.

As for HE SHOULD ANSWER NOW... maybe or maybe not... Try talking to John K give him a small tip and ask him to follow up with Rag on the chips or at least get some clarity. No need to get all bent out of shape right now we are still 1 month + away from shipping right? Send a PM. Send another email etc keep trying to contact him. I agree it can be very worrying he is not responding but maybe he has been flooded with requests like this and again that is why it would be better if he just did like other group buys and said 1x transfer or something and limit this. The more hyper-sensitive people are the more it puts unnecessary pressure on the whole group. You can panic 10 days before shipping if he hasn't contacted you. It really PISSES me off that people have to really get their panties in a knot over something like this given the time frame and it puts my own chips count potentially at risk for clerical errors... see my point right? I see yours I agree it is troubling but again to stir the pot like this is not really helping anyone at this point.  It was bad enough that during the buying phase people were being total douche bags trying to change the arrangements less drama the better.

regardless of your philosophy on where ragingazn's responsibility begins and ends, he should respond.  lose the entitlement? geeze