Topic: Where or where have my bitcoins gone? (Read 5101 times)

Yes. This wallet should have the private keys to those addresses because otherwise I can never have signed the transaction.

Summary:

Chapter 1:

•   Donbenosee reported the ~50 BTC in his account weren’t being confirmed
•   To try and resolve it he imported his wallet to blockchain.info and hoped that would make all his Bitcoins accessible again, (instead something very weird happened)
•   He send the Bitcoins to 1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7
•   I investigated and uncovered a very weird circular transaction:

(see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1592827 for the raw trasnactions of T1, T2, T3. T1 is the transaction sending 50 BTC to 1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7)
T1: a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a
T2: 3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6
T3: 74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a

Transaction T1 is the input for transaction T2 and T2 is the input for T3. T1 isn't being confirmed because 2 of the 4 inputs aren't in the blockchain (so retransmitting won't work)

(see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1593059 for the raw transactions of TA and TD)
TA: e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe --> Not in the blockchain
TB: e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b561 --> Fine, contains 10.023 BTC
TC: 781e678643d77dfa7509163021ae1d9a27212f891ad5004fb7a2bd9cadb1f8a2 --> Fine contains 15.889734 BTC
TD: 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df --> Not in the blockchain

TA e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe
has 1 input:
TA1. dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce which is in the Blockchain (16.090234 BTC)

TD 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df
has 1 input:
TD1. 033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01 which is in the Blockchain (12.274 BTC)

However both TA1 AND TD1 have already been spend in another transaction.
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57438804/dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57442378/033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01

So none of these transactions are ever going to confirm (you are trying to spend funds which are alreay spend). I ran into something odd. TB and TC from above show that in the following addresses reside:

1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj 10.023 BTC
1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY http://blockchain.info/address/1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY 15.889734 BTC

So then I traversed the spend inputs (TA1 and TD1) and found that they are indeed the inputs of TB and TC! Yes the rejected transaction was trying to turn 25.912734 BTC into 54.276968 BTC via some weird circular transaction.

•   I have no idea how he accomplished this
•   It turns out he had 25.912734 BTC instead of 50 BTC
•   So I let him export the private key for the addresses he owned that had his Bitcoins, create a new wallet and import these keys
•   This fixed everything and the gained access to his 25.912734 BTC once more!

Chapter 2:


When he responded that he was bummed out by “losing” 3.82 BTC I told him to ask you what the hell is going on because this is just plain weird.

No problem, I'll try a bit on my own for a while..thanks again..

EDIT: Okay, I tried dumpprivkey XXXXXXXX on all of those and got nothing but

"Private key for address xxxxxxxxxx is not known (code -4)"

Am I correct in assuming I should be doing this with the wallet from which I sent the 13.612 BTC?

Where did all these addresses come from, I don't recognise any of them.?

ANOTHER EDIT: This is so confusing. I entered a few of them into blockchain as your recommended and got lots of weird transactions that I'm sure I didn't make.

I wish I was a rocket scientist, this stuff is beyond me..

I'll help you but I really have no time now. Those are addresses (just type them in http://blockchain.info )

Hi Watchwoord.

I did get a reply, but they wanted me to summarise the five pages of this thread, which is fair enough, except I was so confused by the whole issue that I didn't feel capable of doing so... then the whole forked blockchain thing happened and I felt it unfair to bother them for a few days as I figured they'd be busy with far more important matters.Then I contracted a nasty influenza bug which has laid me low for the better part of a week.

Now I would like to proceed with reclaiming the still-missing BTC so I'm re-reading everything in the hope I'll wrap my head around it all again..

EDIT: I'm hopelessly lost...could you PLEASE help me with the process for this:


Are these the addresses or the tx ids?

No. Were you high and/or drunk when you wrote that post?

Were you High, and or drunk during the period you sent the Bitcoins?

No, there is not relation. Did Znort or Erik respond to your PMs?

I hope my issue wasn't some sort of precursor for the whole problem bitcoin seems to be having now...

I agree. I'd almost be proud if I did it on purpose - and it didn't involve real money


I've contacted both gentlemen you named and pointed them to this thread. I do appreciate your hard work so far. I too am confused, as I thought what I did was pretty basic. I certainly didn't TRY to double-spend any bitcoins..
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~9.5 BTC + 0.48 BTC (that has already been spend 1H2yyTj7vFxJP3x97rVVXAXnTW23gaEVQ1 ) + 3.82 BTC (from the weird transaction with the double spends, follow the link, which takes a while to load, and see what I mean) = ~13.62

These are the weirdest thing I have ever seen in the BlockChain that weren't intentionally put there. I have no idea at all what you could have done to cause this (without meaning to). I mean:


uses the same input twice and of course one of the two transactions is unconfirmed. Also there are even a few inputs of the transaction you just posted of single Satoshi's. I guess it must all have something to do with Satoshidice and if there weren't any double inputs and double spends in your transactions I would guess that the recent patches to disrupt Satoshidice could have an affect, but I don't see how those can account for those anomalies. What is evident here is that all issues seem to have occurred on March 1st as the transaction I just quoted above is of that date as well (as were all the previous transactions I assisted you with before).

So, I understand you when you feel cheated, and I very much doubt any of the funds is actually gone. Most likely you never had the full 13.62 BTC, just as before, the client just misrepresented it to you due to the double spends in your local transaction database (in simple terms, the fact that your client thought transactions were there that weren't it saw some coins twice). The 9.5 BTC however is something you can access for sure.

If you would like to investigate further I would recommend to PM Erik Voorhees (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/evoorhees-12149)  as a SathosDice representative and Znort (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/znort987-5218) as a Blockchain analysis specialist, and alert them to this thread. If anything, maybe they can tell you what the hell you did to cause this cause I am still kind of in awe how a casual user can inadvertently cause this much havoc

(If you have questions feel free to ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability).

9.5 BTC? I transferred 13.62 confirmed BTC from one wallet to another, I have no idea were all these small transactions come from?

Wow, you keep making these more complicate. 27 inputs this time! This is a real mess.

It fails because it is trying to double spend again namely:

1H2yyTj7vFxJP3x97rVVXAXnTW23gaEVQ1 - (Spent) 0.48875 BTC

AND because it is trying to use http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/#a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a which is the weirdest transaction because it using the same input twice in it's input. Wonder why the network rejected it?

Doing anything with this was actually a lot of work because of the many inputs. I went through all your unspent inputs and saved every one that was over 1 bitcent. You can export and import them the same way as you did for the other addresses (so export the private key and import it in the other wallet). (You have roughly 9.5 BTC)

1Pznojb55KKnca216FP497DSD1qRC25Jr - (Unspent) 0.48875 BTC
18RzzcpoUhgPFUKhw9xS3DWfzdtcqRVr3a - (Unspent) 2.4011176 BTC
14jS8V98j3dAXEjoUZMJYJ5YRL5uqXGQYf - (Unspent) 0.048174 BTC
1EocsyNb5JXfHTJFnS7U2dMPbvfhREqCxL - (Unspent) 1.6005784 BTC
1Q1ax772H3kxWkKr3V4RjzJC1Tt9ZV6Wog - (Unspent) 0.1495392 BTC
16KqV5iN4afAyz5K9NQLGHrV3WRSoyisja - (Unspent) 0.1001544 BTC
1HHZUXzrXxsuYFie5zkRkjyLWF6SEL6NmK - (Unspent) 0.72359 BTC
1K3dZ2Bynas9ZyAMS3zsGm97ahCTEetZXx - (Unspent) 0.013848 BTC
133r7YFYeppNXcPdH4V3aYjkNBgpK13cQi - (Unspent) 2.000848 BTC
15LS9PzkcDbHshfUSiQTHkEGU3xHatNNLo - (Unspent) 0.8010392 BTC
13Em2vyhUGX3Yh75vfFcfKdsE946YXPDsV - (Unspent) 1.2003088 BTC
1Bw2fSWU3TRFga9fvFPJrizhNNQPqm6nPV - (Unspent) 0.010008 BTC

The coins were double spent by the CIA omg Bitcoin is no more sell sell fast!

Kidding aside, I suggest you start using electrum. it gets handy when jumping between servers to check the consistency of the balance shown. And no block chain headache that you do not want to sign for.

Getrawtransaction :

12:22:36

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"hex" : "483045022100e6835b8498200d4e043023b4fc2c09c321ae0988295fefe27ac72e400a20cf34022 00120c0b7ae95ca39a318cf3b951e954405f5e7e9219d45f3a587f32cb1f02a3a01210252f12658 06eed2a8853987143bca531aca67b17efb0aa4d795501d5f3f5020d9"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
},
{
"txid" : "4ba766cd620921ae0ca9fb07e84a7a5606218990781c7d8e0cd445f998add9bd",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "30450221008cfa1ac600806b4c9fc00babf5da7bf262870d53975d525830fdf1229c5b8c8002201 daf732918ea7289de5ad4fe1d5471f772aff357dc88f8121a0755faa8b70cc601 02ad3c938672c353449b8430306f23ff7d8a5cad46c1e0fbeea44a5ed0860fd687",
"hex" : "4830450221008cfa1ac600806b4c9fc00babf5da7bf262870d53975d525830fdf1229c5b8c80022 01daf732918ea7289de5ad4fe1d5471f772aff357dc88f8121a0755faa8b70cc6012102ad3c9386 72c353449b8430306f23ff7d8a5cad46c1e0fbeea44a5ed0860fd687"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
},
{
"txid" : "bcd980ce715d65bfef3b32a41e255d4060e046ddb281631956d57a872f57a4c5",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "3045022018458de38d403acaa6864c5d6294c384e6dc389c23bd109111a95eccb6738eb2022100c 076941e79ab7d96e4971a5d9242869761eda003e93e3512c4cfdb6b33910a8901 0387354a6faa5d5238b641470bbe91709d7b30916f6d7a38a8e4f12e19292d9fce",
"hex" : "483045022018458de38d403acaa6864c5d6294c384e6dc389c23bd109111a95eccb6738eb202210 0c076941e79ab7d96e4971a5d9242869761eda003e93e3512c4cfdb6b33910a8901210387354a6f aa5d5238b641470bbe91709d7b30916f6d7a38a8e4f12e19292d9fce"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 0.01009833,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 a709a597d49dd3f67558e0de6a809593d94975a7 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914a709a597d49dd3f67558e0de6a809593d94975a788ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1GEDQK1HawCrZHMjJdVc97m2ZHgAYUWNbF"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 13.61200000,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 499183ce7d964a5856e04423143fcfcf1f42f387 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914499183ce7d964a5856e04423143fcfcf1f42f38788ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"17hzeZ8gKwLAHASyh85S5FSNYAFsexPAyk"
]
}
}
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}

Okay I checked and this transaction isn't even in http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/ so you need to give me more info again by running the command:

bitcoind getrawtransaction 1

Great that worked out. You're welcome and thanks for the donation


I'll look into this tomorrow, got my birthday party to head down to first

Okay, let me guess...stop the daemon, change to the newer wallet file and import the second private key?

EDIT: That did it:)

Okay, I now have 25.912734 confirmed BTC in my new wallet .Many thanks, once I get this all sorted I shall donate some to you.

Now, I have another small problem. Yesterday I decided to move my remaining 13-something BTC from the old wallet to a new one created in Armory. Unfortunately, that transaction hasn't confirmed yet, so I have 13.612 more BTC in limbo somewhere. Can you help me find them? I promise I'll do nothing else after that lol

The transaction details are:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 8/03/2013 14:43
To: 17hzeZ8gKwLAHASyh85S5FSNYAFsexPAyk
Debit: -13.612 BTC
Net amount: -13.612 BTC
Transaction ID: 3ea177ce0db93b9bbbdc2286f5ca08e038a364db704205250d253d704a67d6a1

I must have fat fingers, I got a private key that time..

Let me just check somthing pls

This is very very weird. Can you please confirm that if you run the commands:

bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY
and
bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test

consecutively (so without switching wallets or restarting th deamon or anything. Just right after each other), the first command fails and the second succeeds?

If so, I'll have to look into this more because then something happens which to me is inherently impossible (the private key is required for both these commands, how can one succeed and the other fail?)


You imported the private key to the first address ( 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj ) into the second wallet file. So when you have the second wallet file loaded (where you can see the Bitcoins for this address as confirmed and available) you have access to these coins and can move them. So if you create a new address (under receive) you can send them there for instance. Another option is to create a new address in your original wallet file and send the coins there. By moving the coins you actually prove to yourself you have access to the coins again