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legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
March 04, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
#56
Geez, I was hoping someone a little more knowledgeable about raw transactions than me would jump in. Oh well, don't worry we're going to keep trying Smiley

First I would like to see which version you are running. Run "bitcoind.exe getinfo" on a command line and see if you have at least version 7 (I had to upgrade). Also please paste the results here.

Following this, you can request far more verbose output about transactions by doing:
bitcoind getrawtransaction 1             (so the txids and then a space and then the number 1)
I would like you to do this for the following 3 txids (and paste the result here):

a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a
3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6
74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a

Finally it is possible to retransmit transactions (for some reason the network didn't pick them up). This goes as follows:

1. In the result you pasted above for the tree transactions you see a "hex" value. Copy this hex into a text editor (notepad) and remove the linebreaks so i is all on one line without spaces.
2. Copy the result of 1
3. bitcoind sendrawtransaction
4. Do this for each of the three transactions above, hopefully the network will pick them up now

PS:

If all this doesn't work there is always the possibility of removing the transactions that aren't working from your local database. In essence this would revert the transactions in question (as for some reason they aren't being relayed by the network). I'll have to investigate how to do this however.

Edit:

It seems that from version 0.7 onwards you don't need to use the command prompt anymore. Instead start the qt client, click help-> debug window and then change to the console tab. Use the commands here but ommit bitcoind. (So "bitcoind listtransactions" becomes "listrransactions")
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 03, 2013, 07:33:36 PM
#55
What?

So am I right:

a. bitcoind listaccounts returns 1 account
b. bitcoind getbalance "" returns 18.53402320
c. bitcoind getaddressesbyaccount "" returns only 1 account namely 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM

1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM  http://blockchain.info/address/1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM holds 0 BTC. And the total received amount equals the getbalance you reported: 18.5340232.

Yep right so far..

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How the hell do you only have one address, yet I see other addresses on which you received transactions in your transaction list? :|
Buggered if I know, I'm the newbie, remember ? Smiley

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1. If you start bitcoin-qt instead of the daemon (which you will have to close) do you see more than one address?

I have two other accounts under 'recieve coins' in bitcoin-qt. They are 1KbUKTJsm4zA6YKUH5SXGDxKVCpJEhfkew and 1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5


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2 .Could you start a command prompt, cd to C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME) and paste the result of the dir command here?

Directory of C:\Users\me\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin

4/03/2013  11:21 AM              .
4/03/2013  11:21 AM              ..
1/01/2013  03:07 PM                 0 .lock
3/03/2013  12:35 PM                67 bitcoin.conf
1/02/2013  01:04 AM     2,097,361,271 blk0001.dat
1/02/2013  12:00 PM     2,097,295,438 blk0002.dat
4/03/2013  11:19 AM     1,922,045,943 blk0003.dat
4/03/2013  11:19 AM     1,915,486,208 blkindex.dat
4/03/2013  08:30 AM              database
4/03/2013  11:12 AM               403 db.log
4/03/2013  11:12 AM           740,350 debug.log
4/03/2013  11:21 AM           873,644 peers.dat
4/03/2013  11:19 AM           663,552 wallet.dat
             10 File(s)  8,034,466,876 bytes
              3 Dir(s)  18,206,416,896 bytes free



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This is very confusing (partly why I summarized is I am hoping someone else will be able to help you out).

You might be confused, but I'm totally lost Smiley

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edit:

3. Also try: bitcoind getbalance (without a specific account should return the total for all your accounts but you report you only have one)

That gave me a result of 13.38739848, the same figure I have in confirmed BTC. Ther are still 50.0001 unconfirmed sitting there..
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
March 03, 2013, 06:40:24 PM
#53
What?

So am I right:

a. bitcoind listaccounts returns 1 account
b. bitcoind getbalance "" returns 18.53402320
c. bitcoind getaddressesbyaccount "" returns only 1 account namely 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM

1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM  http://blockchain.info/address/1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM holds 0 BTC. And the total received amount equals the getbalance you reported: 18.5340232.

How the hell do you only have one address, yet I see other addresses on which you received transactions in your transaction list? :|

1. If you start bitcoin-qt instead of the daemon (which you will have to close) do you see more than one address?
2 .Could you start a command prompt, cd to C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME) and paste the result of the dir command here?

This is very confusing (partly why I summarized is I am hoping someone else will be able to help you out).


edit:

3. Also try: bitcoind getbalance (without a specific account should return the total for all your accounts but you report you only have one)
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 03, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
#52
getaddrressbyaccount result: 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
March 03, 2013, 06:01:58 PM
#51
Okay, could you run:

bitcoind getaddressesbyaccount ""


(10 of your Bitcoins are here at least: http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj )
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 03, 2013, 05:56:53 PM
#50
Okay, only one account showed up. The listbalance command gave this result: 18.53402320

Curiouser and curiouser.....
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 03, 2013, 05:10:09 PM
#49
Well that list of transactions gave me a clue. In the list you have the address 1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj listed both in a send and in a receive transaction. I don't know whether this is till the case, but Bitcoind used to not send transactions you send to one of your own addresses to the network but handle it in it's internal state.

1) Have you tried rescanning the blockchain? Importing an address you have send a (unconfirmed) transaction too could have put poor old bitcoind in an inconsistent state. To do this close you daemon process and run:
C:\Program files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt -rescan

This will take a little while. See if you can see your balance once more.

2) If 1. doesn't help restart the daemon and we are going to run some commands on the bitcoind (in the new command window)

a. run: "bitcoind listaccounts" and verify that it only returns one line with "" . (I checked this is your transactions, this is to make sure).
b. run:
     bitcoind getbalance ""
     (with he quotes, if a. returned more than one line  run it for each of the names returned within quotes and  show me all output)

I rescanned, the 50BTC are still unconfirmed among eitght other unconfirmed trnsactions...

Will run the daemon again now.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
March 03, 2013, 08:19:08 AM
#48
Well that list of transactions gave me a clue. In the list you have the address 1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj listed both in a send and in a receive transaction. I don't know whether this is till the case, but Bitcoind used to not send transactions you send to one of your own addresses to the network but handle it in it's internal state.

1) Have you tried rescanning the blockchain? Importing an address you have send a (unconfirmed) transaction too could have put poor old bitcoind in an inconsistent state. To do this close you daemon process and run:
C:\Program files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt -rescan

This will take a little while. See if you can see your balance once more.

2) If 1. doesn't help restart the daemon and we are going to run some commands on the bitcoind (in the new command window)

a. run: "bitcoind listaccounts" and verify that it only returns one line with "" . (I checked this is your transactions, this is to make sure).
b. run:
     bitcoind getbalance ""
     (with he quotes, if a. returned more than one line  run it for each of the names returned within quotes and  show me all output)
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
March 03, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
#47


This all started when you upgraded your client? ...

Uh, no.


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have you ever seen any files in the appdata folder for bitcoin which could have been named along the lines of wallet.bak.old or oldwallet.bak or something like that?

No there's nothing like that.

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Further, do you recall from where you received these 50 coins initially? If you can recall or find out the address or transaction ID's from where you first got these coins it will aid in finding what address they are currently associated to.

I had some of them already before all this happened, about 34 of them which I'd funded back in january and early february. Not sure of the rest.
My qt client now tells me I have 50.001 BTC unconfirmed, does that mean I'll get them sometime?
 

Ok, sorry for misinterpreting some of the information.

Certainly good your showing them back in unconfirmed, as long as you don't have any other transactions rescanned which spend those coins they should confirm once your client is done syncing. Look at your transaction history, and retrieve the transaction ID's for the tx's which brought those coins into your wallet. Paste them here and/or into blockchain.info's search bar and you can verify if the coins still belong to the addresses in your wallet or have been spent.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 03, 2013, 12:10:18 AM
#46


This all started when you upgraded your client? ...

Uh, no.


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have you ever seen any files in the appdata folder for bitcoin which could have been named along the lines of wallet.bak.old or oldwallet.bak or something like that?

No there's nothing like that.

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Further, do you recall from where you received these 50 coins initially? If you can recall or find out the address or transaction ID's from where you first got these coins it will aid in finding what address they are currently associated to.

I had some of them already before all this happened, about 34 of them which I'd funded back in january and early february. Not sure of the rest.
My qt client now tells me I have 50.001 BTC unconfirmed, does that mean I'll get them sometime?
 
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
March 02, 2013, 11:33:45 PM
#45
Yes, but no.. Neither of the addresses listed above which were involved with the large transactions (around 50BTC) have ever had confirmed transactions.

I didn't spend too much time, but I can't seem to locate the coins at any stage, before or after your troubles.

This all started when you upgraded your client? I'm not certain, but if your original wallet was corrupted and/overwritten in the upgrade process then the coins don't reside in any of the addresses you've listed. I can't remember what the client specifically renames the bad wallet to, but have you ever seen any files in the appdata folder for bitcoin which could have been named along the lines of wallet.bak.old or oldwallet.bak or something like that?

Further, do you recall from where you received these 50 coins initially? If you can recall or find out the address or transaction ID's from where you first got these coins it will aid in finding what address they are currently associated to.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 02, 2013, 10:40:48 PM
#44
Does the above make sense to anyone?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 02, 2013, 10:08:30 PM
#43
Thanks, I must come across as a real thickhead lol

C:\Users\me\Downloads\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\daemon
>bitcoind.exe listtransactions
[
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -2.00000000,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 293,
        "blockhash" : "00000000000004249e6db4a5e9ac87ef72fe0f6d6ffd336d114193a1a
0c5599a",
        "blockindex" : 376,
        "blocktime" : 1362109791,
        "txid" : "e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b5
61",
        "time" : 1362108899,
        "timereceived" : 1362108899
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -50.00000000,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b11
2a",
        "time" : 1362109147,
        "timereceived" : 1362109147
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 49.00500000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aeb
c6",
        "time" : 1362109251,
        "timereceived" : 1362109251
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.99400000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de
3a",
        "time" : 1362109293,
        "timereceived" : 1362109293
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.25000000,
        "fee" : -0.00100000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 108,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "2d1d3634f9e7cc59f88592ff0eb717ea52b8226df89503356e46316ea9f6ed
0a",
        "time" : 1362110735,
        "timereceived" : 1362110735
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "174iQeYzBVh2i5j9Ci7cG5EeaZuqh8ytzP",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00075000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 426,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "053c0cf237da2dd06041a48154afd407a202353636929bde3fea6792ae39a4
00",
        "time" : 1362110785,
        "timereceived" : 1362110785
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.25000000,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 219,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "e8ab6b01d1ffeddf934a76656838a0d0e70ad9557abd960c03723d040233ec
80",
        "time" : 1362110809,
        "timereceived" : 1362110809
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1AxavoucvwpXVQ4J875kyoFnHEf4eygSVA",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00075000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 488,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "e7bab74e6316528061b6f3fffcf517ba78a55bb63c51df58f5cc06411435c5
8d",
        "time" : 1362110890,
        "timereceived" : 1362110890
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00950000,
        "confirmations" : 290,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000004496f2410d8aa3336e57ce08e6a75b3d69d2c6a1e4d
d735252",
        "blockindex" : 55,
        "blocktime" : 1362110934,
        "txid" : "99eaaf55b6b8fbbb9a86984c6523f9e19258e12359d6eaa3fd466435b69457
73",
        "time" : 1362110934,
        "timereceived" : 1362111182
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1VTxNDC4G5fkaW27uBLAGeaLoFx7szFAb",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00200000,
        "confirmations" : 265,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000001ee614247b5794d64b39f14c95bf7e585444efc49aa
bc7d119",
        "blockindex" : 223,
        "blocktime" : 1362125084,
        "txid" : "0a9820317eab9fed696693645ad6f10cbab47285001a0c4aca76db4d431f57
00",
        "time" : 1362125084,
        "timereceived" : 1362125363
    }
]

C:\Users\me\Downloads\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\daemon
>
legendary
Activity: 947
Merit: 1042
Hamster ate my bitcoin
March 02, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
#42
Right click on the little command prompt icon in the top left of the cmd prompt window. Then edit. copy.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 02, 2013, 09:32:57 PM
#41
Okay, I have a list of transactions..Smiley

Now, how on earth do I copy/paste the info from a cmd window here?
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
March 02, 2013, 09:28:32 PM
#40
Oh I think I get it  Grin

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times Wink)

Go ahead and laugh, I'm a big dumb boy, I can take it Smiley

I tried running -listtransactions in another window and got 'cannot obtain a lock on the data directory ....Bitcoin is probably already running.

The qt client isn't running though..Sad


try it without the '-'

So: bitcoind.exe listransactions
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
March 02, 2013, 09:23:53 PM
#39
Oh I think I get it  Grin

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times Wink)

Go ahead and laugh, I'm a big dumb boy, I can take it Smiley

I tried running -listtransactions in another window and got 'cannot obtain a lock on the data directory ....Bitcoin is probably already running.

The qt client isn't running though..Sad


Sometimes when I quit Bitcoin-Qt, it still appears in the list of "processes" in my task manager.  When it's listed there and I try to reopen Bitcoin-Qt, I get the same error message.  Try checking to see if it's listed there and close the process 'Bitcoin-Qt", then reopen it.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 02, 2013, 09:20:15 PM
#38
Oh I think I get it  Grin

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times Wink)

Go ahead and laugh, I'm a big dumb boy, I can take it Smiley

I tried running -listtransactions in another window and got 'cannot obtain a lock on the data directory ....Bitcoin is probably already running.

The qt client isn't running though..Sad
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
March 02, 2013, 09:15:39 PM
#37
Oh I think I get it  Grin

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times Wink)
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