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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on June 02, 2021, 06:20:19 PM

He thought that he has a Midas touch the first time he tried gambling and won, but unfortunately, it did not go on his way, by the time he realized that he is too deep in his addition losing a lot of money, this is what happens if you do not have the character and you are on a wrong start in gambling, somebody should have told that guy that he should only gamble money that he can afford to lose.

Treating things the right way, I see your point and it's really valid to avoid heavy addiction, if you the right understanding and you know that everything around this venue needs a responsible decision-making,

If you are well prepared and you able to sets your limitation it won't necessary to asked for any professional help,
addiction comes after you when you engaged yourself too much but forget about setting the boundaries.

It's a must to use only spare money or amount that you can easy to let go.

Unfortunately, most gamblers are undisciplined so it is difficult for them to set these limits. Also, gamblers who get a lot of losses at least they will only share their experiences only with close friends and in this case, a close friend when they realize that it must be stopped then this close friend can ask for help from an expert or more professional. But unfortunately, most of them will remain closed to others but it doesn't really matter as long as their friends can help them to get out of gambling that may have ruined their lives.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on May 29, 2021, 03:28:49 AM

If you are going to check on it further there are a lot of shrinks that can be consulted for gambling addiction, addiction in general. I would be careful as to what these doctors will give you as treatment. For me, the advise and the plans of action would be sufficient. If they will give me a medicine or a supplement, then that is a whole different story. Some of these medicines that they prescribe might not be good for me. So I need to be sure that I will not drink any medicine nor buy the medicine that they recommend.

it is not about medicine mate , but about Mental help .. doctors expertise is mind control and not physical health.

But some doctors do prescribe medications for fighting gambling addiction, and in many cases the drugs work. For example, there are antidepressants and mood stabilizers which can mitigate the negative effects of compulsive gambling. And there are others that can help in fighting the addiction itself. Check this out:

Quote from: https://www.medicinenet.com/gambling_addiction/article.htm

Medications that have been found to be helpful in decreasing either the urge to gamble or the thrill involved in doing so include antiseizure medications like carbamazepine (Tegretol) and topiramate (Topamax), mood stabilizers like lithium (Eskalith, Lithobid), medications used to address addictions like naltrexone (ReVia), and antidepressants like clomipramine (Anafranil) and fluvoxamine (Luvox).

Actually curing gambling addiction is in principle the same as curing drug addiction. And my friend who is addicted to gambling has indeed come
to the doctor, because he has had difficulty dealing with his gambling addiction. It turned out that the doctor gave the drug Naltrexone which
functions to suppress the behavior of gambling addicts for an irresistible desire. The drug Naltrexone has been approved by the National Health
and Medical Research Council. Usually, if gambling addiction is in a severe category, it must be helped by coming to a psychiatrist for
psychological treatment.

Exactly! The problem is with the psychological addiction, and it doesn't matter what's the subject of addiction: drugs, gambling, games, etc. The only exception is with the drugs, because unlike other things, it can cause physical addiction, which requires a much more serious treatment.
Also, IMO psychiatric help comes as the first-line defense, and only in most severe cases, the medications should be prescribed.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on June 02, 2021, 06:20:19 PM

He thought that he has a Midas touch the first time he tried gambling and won, but unfortunately, it did not go on his way, by the time he realized that he is too deep in his addition losing a lot of money, this is what happens if you do not have the character and you are on a wrong start in gambling, somebody should have told that guy that he should only gamble money that he can afford to lose.

Treating things the right way, I see your point and it's really valid to avoid heavy addiction, if you the right understanding and you know that everything around this venue needs a responsible decision-making,

If you are well prepared and you able to sets your limitation it won't necessary to asked for any professional help,
addiction comes after you when you engaged yourself too much but forget about setting the boundaries.

It's a must to use only spare money or amount that you can easy to let go.

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He thought that he has a Midas touch the first time he tried gambling and won, but unfortunately, it did not go on his way, by the time he realized that he is too deep in his addition losing a lot of money, this is what happens if you do not have the character and you are on a wrong start in gambling, somebody should have told that guy that he should only gamble money that he can afford to lose.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 02, 2021, 05:15:04 PM

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Quote from: Silberman on May 27, 2021, 03:44:22 PM

One of the reasons why gambling addiction can proceed to such stages is that unlike other addictions in which you can clearly see the effects of someone that is addicted, for example in the case of alcohol if every time that you see your friend or family member he has obvious signs that he has been drinking then you can easily tell that he has a problem with alcohol, but in the case of gambling addiction this is not possible as the only way to tell if a person is addicted is to see him at the casino over and over again or see how indebted he is and neither of those two things can be easily observed unless you make an effort to do so.

This is very true.

You'll never know unless it's too late, or if some of your friends accidentally saw your husband of a family member that he is addicted in playing gambling. But you'll also notice it if you're asking him money because it's his salary day but he always said he have no more money left because he spend it on something or whatever. There will be only less number of gamblers who confessed or will confess their addiction in an early stage.

You are correct that there are other signs, however in the case the person that is having some problems when it comes to their gambling activities they are never going to tell you the money they are asking from you is going to be used for gambling purposes, so you think you are helping them overcome a difficult time on their lives or investing in a business, and even if they do this with every single member of their family it is probable they are not caught as most people prefer to keep those things a secret to not worry other family members.

No gambler would really be telling out the truth on where those funds would be used for because if they do then that would really result into being ignored or been rejected when you do tend to borrow money.

They would really be saying up things which would convince you out just for you to give or borrow them money and as a friend that someone do seek out for help then for sure you would surely pity him/her and borrow him up without any knowing that those would be
used on gambling purpose which i dont see to be worth.

Once you hooked up with addiction then for sure you would really be having a big problem.

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I think being a gambling addicted and having difficult to control personal finances due to this addiction is one thing, but stealing money from others to gamble is different and much more serious on my opinion. By doing this the person isn't harming himself only, but causing prejudice to third parties. It's the same as the drugs addicted that steals or kills to maintain his addiction.
When the situation reaches to an extreme like this only treatment isn't enough. Besides it, a punishment is also needed, otherwise the person will never learn how to respect others. As we live in society people must respect each other, doesn't matter if they want or if they have any kind of issue on their private life.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on May 31, 2021, 06:46:02 AM

Quote from: Silberman on May 27, 2021, 03:44:22 PM

One of the reasons why gambling addiction can proceed to such stages is that unlike other addictions in which you can clearly see the effects of someone that is addicted, for example in the case of alcohol if every time that you see your friend or family member he has obvious signs that he has been drinking then you can easily tell that he has a problem with alcohol, but in the case of gambling addiction this is not possible as the only way to tell if a person is addicted is to see him at the casino over and over again or see how indebted he is and neither of those two things can be easily observed unless you make an effort to do so.

This is very true.

You'll never know unless it's too late, or if some of your friends accidentally saw your husband of a family member that he is addicted in playing gambling. But you'll also notice it if you're asking him money because it's his salary day but he always said he have no more money left because he spend it on something or whatever. There will be only less number of gamblers who confessed or will confess their addiction in an early stage.

You are correct that there are other signs, however in the case the person that is having some problems when it comes to their gambling activities they are never going to tell you the money they are asking from you is going to be used for gambling purposes, so you think you are helping them overcome a difficult time on their lives or investing in a business, and even if they do this with every single member of their family it is probable they are not caught as most people prefer to keep those things a secret to not worry other family members.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on May 29, 2021, 03:28:49 AM

If you are going to check on it further there are a lot of shrinks that can be consulted for gambling addiction, addiction in general. I would be careful as to what these doctors will give you as treatment. For me, the advise and the plans of action would be sufficient. If they will give me a medicine or a supplement, then that is a whole different story. Some of these medicines that they prescribe might not be good for me. So I need to be sure that I will not drink any medicine nor buy the medicine that they recommend.

it is not about medicine mate , but about Mental help .. doctors expertise is mind control and not physical health.

But some doctors do prescribe medications for fighting gambling addiction, and in many cases the drugs work. For example, there are antidepressants and mood stabilizers which can mitigate the negative effects of compulsive gambling. And there are others that can help in fighting the addiction itself. Check this out:

Quote from: https://www.medicinenet.com/gambling_addiction/article.htm

Medications that have been found to be helpful in decreasing either the urge to gamble or the thrill involved in doing so include antiseizure medications like carbamazepine (Tegretol) and topiramate (Topamax), mood stabilizers like lithium (Eskalith, Lithobid), medications used to address addictions like naltrexone (ReVia), and antidepressants like clomipramine (Anafranil) and fluvoxamine (Luvox).

Actually curing gambling addiction is in principle the same as curing drug addiction. And my friend who is addicted to gambling has indeed come
to the doctor, because he has had difficulty dealing with his gambling addiction. It turned out that the doctor gave the drug Naltrexone which
functions to suppress the behavior of gambling addicts for an irresistible desire. The drug Naltrexone has been approved by the National Health
and Medical Research Council. Usually, if gambling addiction is in a severe category, it must be helped by coming to a psychiatrist for
psychological treatment.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on May 29, 2021, 03:28:49 AM

If you are going to check on it further there are a lot of shrinks that can be consulted for gambling addiction, addiction in general. I would be careful as to what these doctors will give you as treatment. For me, the advise and the plans of action would be sufficient. If they will give me a medicine or a supplement, then that is a whole different story. Some of these medicines that they prescribe might not be good for me. So I need to be sure that I will not drink any medicine nor buy the medicine that they recommend.

it is not about medicine mate , but about Mental help .. doctors expertise is mind control and not physical health.

But some doctors do prescribe medications for fighting gambling addiction, and in many cases the drugs work. For example, there are antidepressants and mood stabilizers which can mitigate the negative effects of compulsive gambling. And there are others that can help in fighting the addiction itself. Check this out:

Quote from: https://www.medicinenet.com/gambling_addiction/article.htm

Medications that have been found to be helpful in decreasing either the urge to gamble or the thrill involved in doing so include antiseizure medications like carbamazepine (Tegretol) and topiramate (Topamax), mood stabilizers like lithium (Eskalith, Lithobid), medications used to address addictions like naltrexone (ReVia), and antidepressants like clomipramine (Anafranil) and fluvoxamine (Luvox).

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 31, 2021, 05:28:20 PM

Well most of the gamblers especially ones that are addicted will never ask for this kind of help only if they go into big troubles
This i know from personal experiences from my friends. O most in every casino or sportsbook you have the number if you are addicted

Actually what OP is asking when the gamblers turns when they are already in deep trouble mate and not just a random thoughts.

Quote from: iTradeChips on May 29, 2021, 03:28:49 AM

If you are going to check on it further there are a lot of shrinks that can be consulted for gambling addiction, addiction in general. I would be careful as to what these doctors will give you as treatment. For me, the advise and the plans of action would be sufficient. If they will give me a medicine or a supplement, then that is a whole different story. Some of these medicines that they prescribe might not be good for me. So I need to be sure that I will not drink any medicine nor buy the medicine that they recommend.

it is not about medicine mate , but about Mental help .. doctors expertise is mind control and not physical health.

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 31, 2021, 05:28:20 PM

Well most of the gamblers especially ones that are addicted will never ask for this kind of help only if they go into big troubles
This i know from personal experiences from my friends. O most in every casino or sportsbook you have the number if you are addicted

Yes and most of them will just keep the problem to themselves. Not only happened to friends because I personally experienced things like this until I finally managed to get out of addiction, one of the important points is about a strong determination to quit. Well, maybe some casinos have phone numbers to call for consultations or for advice on how to stop gambling, but I think it might just be practiced or done in the beginning. Because if they don't have a strong determination then the next day is very likely they will come back again, and keep repeating the same thing only when they have problems in gambling itself.

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Quote from: dunfida on May 30, 2021, 03:25:12 PM

Not all addiction would really be similar and i dont know on why they do make out some comparison between drug and gambling addiction.Yes, in the sense that both are addiction but
it does on a different extend and the probabilitiies for you on not to get affected as where drugs is on different case, once you taste it then you would surely get hooked unlike
in gambling where you can still mind neither you do play for fun or just simply play for money and this is where gamblers do differentiated on whats the motive that they do have in mind.
Seeking help is just a second option after you had tried on solving the problem by yourself.

Addiction is an addiction because we will try it repeatedly without feeling satisfied unless we do not have money or something that can fill our satisfaction. Both drug and gambling addiction is dangerous, making people lose their lives too in the future, especially if they do not stop and go to rehabilitation. It is good if they have someone or family that can help them to solve the addiction problem. Otherwise, they will not stand for a long time and they can commit suicide if they are really desperate with their life.

the worse things that a man can do with kind of addiction, if there's no hope anymore gambling addicted person will take
his own life as a solution to his worse problem.

Regrets are the reason gambling addicts think that way, realizing that there are no available solutions anymore especially
if even there love ones left them, the first line is your love ones and friends to help you surviving from this problem.

Regret will come last when everything we have is gone. But that is not important anymore because we can not have it and we have an addiction that we need to solve. It requires attention from people close to that person or if that person does not have it, he is hard to save. Those who addicted to gambling can go to the rehabilitation centre to cure their addiction and maybe he needs months to clean his mind about gambling and never touch or come into gambling anymore.

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Well most of the gamblers especially ones that are addicted will never ask for this kind of help only if they go into big troubles
This i know from personal experiences from my friends. O most in every casino or sportsbook you have the number if you are addicted

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Quote from: dimonstration on May 31, 2021, 01:28:02 PM

While taking medicines can help in some time, but it does not guaranteed addiction will be eliminated. Find someone who will motivate you to stop gambling I think no matter how we seek advice and supports from others only ourselves will make us change, I know someone who learned from his experience already to stop gambling since he almost loses his family because of his bises. Find something to make you busy at the same time someone who can inspire you to be busy.

Medicines are not really for problems like addiction. It's a mental sickness that has to be treated gradually but not through medicines. The condition that the person is going through might become more intense because of those medicines that will be prescribed.

I agree that it's about someone who will help you to stop gambling. There's another doctor in that field, if it's not the psychiatrist that will help, then your family or a life and well being coach or of the same.

Your family should be the first to help you, if they can't then there's always the professional that would do, but without the help of your family, you'll still be having a hard time recovering. That's why it's important to prevent addiction that to cure an addiction, we would not want to waste our money and properly, therefore being responsible is a must in gambling.

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Quote from: dimonstration on May 31, 2021, 01:28:02 PM

While taking medicines can help in some time, but it does not guaranteed addiction will be eliminated. Find someone who will motivate you to stop gambling I think no matter how we seek advice and supports from others only ourselves will make us change, I know someone who learned from his experience already to stop gambling since he almost loses his family because of his bises. Find something to make you busy at the same time someone who can inspire you to be busy.

Medicines are not really for problems like addiction. It's a mental sickness that has to be treated gradually but not through medicines. The condition that the person is going through might become more intense because of those medicines that will be prescribed.

I agree that it's about someone who will help you to stop gambling. There's another doctor in that field, if it's not the psychiatrist that will help, then your family or a life and well being coach or of the same.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on May 29, 2021, 03:28:49 AM

If you are going to check on it further there are a lot of shrinks that can be consulted for gambling addiction, addiction in general. I would be careful as to what these doctors will give you as treatment. For me, the advise and the plans of action would be sufficient. If they will give me a medicine or a supplement, then that is a whole different story. Some of these medicines that they prescribe might not be good for me. So I need to be sure that I will not drink any medicine nor buy the medicine that they recommend.

While taking medicines can help in some time, but it does not guaranteed addiction will be eliminated. Find someone who will motivate you to stop gambling I think no matter how we seek advice and supports from others only ourselves will make us change, I know someone who learned from his experience already to stop gambling since he almost loses his family because of his bises. Find something to make you busy at the same time someone who can inspire you to be busy.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 24, 2021, 04:53:14 PM

Personally, one of the best (if not the best) support system that a gambler could seek for would be his/her immediate family and peers. No one understands more than the gambler than his family or friends. No matter what happens, family will always be the one who would support and seek guidance in order to get through this rough road.

In the event that the family is unavailable, I would advice to seek some local government or NGOs that support addiction in general. They provide workshops and other relevant activities that would transform your addiction and re-focus such into other recreational activities.

Unfortunately, perhaps gamblers hate a serious discussion of their gambling problems and they often respond very superficially to questions from family and friends, and until people realize the symptoms of a gambling addiction, a state of debt piled up and can't get out, it's really hard to help someone in such a situation. And if the family can't help, community organizations only make the addicts alienated from society, the gambler just likes to hide in the dark corners of society and doesn't like to contact others.

One of the reasons why gambling addiction can proceed to such stages is that unlike other addictions in which you can clearly see the effects of someone that is addicted, for example in the case of alcohol if every time that you see your friend or family member he has obvious signs that he has been drinking then you can easily tell that he has a problem with alcohol, but in the case of gambling addiction this is not possible as the only way to tell if a person is addicted is to see him at the casino over and over again or see how indebted he is and neither of those two things can be easily observed unless you make an effort to do so.

This is very true.

You'll never know unless it's too late, or if some of your friends accidentally saw your husband of a family member that he is addicted in playing gambling. But you'll also notice it if you're asking him money because it's his salary day but he always said he have no more money left because he spend it on something or whatever. There will be only less number of gamblers who confessed or will confess their addiction in an early stage.

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Quote from: dunfida on May 30, 2021, 03:25:12 PM

Not all addiction would really be similar and i dont know on why they do make out some comparison between drug and gambling addiction.Yes, in the sense that both are addiction but
it does on a different extend and the probabilitiies for you on not to get affected as where drugs is on different case, once you taste it then you would surely get hooked unlike
in gambling where you can still mind neither you do play for fun or just simply play for money and this is where gamblers do differentiated on whats the motive that they do have in mind.
Seeking help is just a second option after you had tried on solving the problem by yourself.

Addiction is an addiction because we will try it repeatedly without feeling satisfied unless we do not have money or something that can fill our satisfaction. Both drug and gambling addiction is dangerous, making people lose their lives too in the future, especially if they do not stop and go to rehabilitation. It is good if they have someone or family that can help them to solve the addiction problem. Otherwise, they will not stand for a long time and they can commit suicide if they are really desperate with their life.

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Quote from: Betwrong on May 28, 2021, 05:51:57 AM

And it can't be otherwise. According to stats, 26% of the world population are gamblers to varying degrees. Our world can't afford having so many problem people, it simply wouldn't survive. Even if only half of gamblers were likely to become gambling addicts, gambling would be banned everywhere. But in reality the vast majority of gamblers are healthy people(mentally).

Gambling addiction is a huge problem that must be addressed, no doubt about that. I'm just writing the above to show that it's not a rule(actually very far from that) that if you gamble you will necessarily become an addict.

Exactly and unlike with what happens with drugs in which there are drugs that are so addictive that a single use can make someone an addict which means that every single person is susceptible to its effects, the same is not true for gambling, this means that the majority of the people that gamble can do so without any problem and the one that develops a problem most likely would have developed another type of behavioral addiction like social media or video game addiction anyway.

Not all addiction would really be similar and i dont know on why they do make out some comparison between drug and gambling addiction.Yes, in the sense that both are addiction but
it does on a different extend and the probabilitiies for you on not to get affected as where drugs is on different case, once you taste it then you would surely get hooked unlike
in gambling where you can still mind neither you do play for fun or just simply play for money and this is where gamblers do differentiated on whats the motive that they do have in mind.
Seeking help is just a second option after you had tried on solving the problem by yourself.

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Quote from: Betwrong on May 28, 2021, 05:51:57 AM

And it can't be otherwise. According to stats, 26% of the world population are gamblers to varying degrees. Our world can't afford having so many problem people, it simply wouldn't survive. Even if only half of gamblers were likely to become gambling addicts, gambling would be banned everywhere. But in reality the vast majority of gamblers are healthy people(mentally).

Gambling addiction is a huge problem that must be addressed, no doubt about that. I'm just writing the above to show that it's not a rule(actually very far from that) that if you gamble you will necessarily become an addict.

Exactly and unlike with what happens with drugs in which there are drugs that are so addictive that a single use can make someone an addict which means that every single person is susceptible to its effects, the same is not true for gambling, this means that the majority of the people that gamble can do so without any problem and the one that develops a problem most likely would have developed another type of behavioral addiction like social media or video game addiction anyway.

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