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Quote from: hahay on June 23, 2021, 07:41:15 AM

everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.

I never had a big trouble with gambling and I did tried to hide a few of my psychological problems back in college (long time ago) but I have to say gambling is different than other addictions. If you are addicted to drugs or addicted to smoking or addicted to alcohol, all of these you can hide because it is neither THAT expensive (could become very expensive eventually but not if you let it) but gambling addiction only becomes a bad thing when you are financially ruined, otherwise it is literally entertainment.

Spending 100 bucks on movies per month versus spending 100 bucks on gambling is literally the same thing, who cares at that point? But if you are financially ruined then you have a big addiction, and having a financial trouble is not something you can hide, you literally lose everything you have and that is why it is not something you can hide.

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Quote from: Sportssmartbetting on June 20, 2021, 05:16:28 PM

It could seem like an unortodox way for stopping being addicted to gambling, but sometimes an easy way out of this addiction could be to learn smart betting strategies.
I mean if you are addicted, you won't stop betting, but at least you will have the chance to generate money from it. I know it's hard for someone who is addicted to follow rules, but at least for some of these players could be a way out.

It is very unorthodox and I do not think it is going to work, the reason is simple we know that the few that are successful when it come to gambling need to be very disciplined not only in the bets they take but also on how they manage their money, an addicted person cannot do anything like this as even if they had a way to beat the casinos and the money to do so eventually they will lose control and they will begin to make all kind of bad bets and lose their capital as a result of this.

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Well, everyone has a concern for the people closest to them and that can be a strong impetus for them to provide input and advice about gambling addiction. But the problem is, when a gambling addict can still control his life so well that it doesn't appear that he is a gambling addict, then how can the people closest to him help. So in this case it is those gambling addicts who have really ruined their own lives and even for those around them, if that were the case surely there would be many people who would care for him to help get out of the gambling addiction that has ruined his life.

The closest people around the gambler can know if something different happens to that person because they are bond with a relationship that we can not know, and only they will know about that. But yes, if the addicted gambler doesn't realize that something wrong already happened to them, they will not ask for help about their problem. The closest people will make sure that they will help many things for that addicted person to gambling if they see that that addicted person start ruined his life.

Yes like that, everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.

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Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

Replacing your worst addiction with a less addiction game or hobby that's not gonna harm your finance and mental health is a good move---boss move or should I asay maturity, because it all about self admittance and realization that in fact you're addicted and you need to be treated.

Diversifying or altering your vision on a lot of things or possibility to earn more money or to have entertainment other than gambling will help (in my opinion) to realize things about your addiction in gambling. Others just don't want it, therefore they are still stuck in the world of addiction in gambling.

Thank you for supporting me in this, because it's far from being obvious to everyone. People keep saying that all addictions are bad, while, in fact, some of them are much worse than others. Gambling addiction is among the dangerous ones, so replacing it with something less harmful is a success, not just "replacing one addiction with another". Of course drugs and alcohol should be out of the question.

Others think it is just the same is wrong. Yes, it is both addiction but we're talking about the negative impact that it will give to ourselves in the long run, the lesser one of course is much better (obviously). It is an achievement, to slowly crawl up to your addiction hole and see other things that could benefit you instead of taking too much money and toll on your body.

No matter how small your progress is on quitting your gambling addiction, keep it up, it's still better than doing nothing about it.

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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained, then more money can be achieved.

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Gambling addicts wont stop as long they do have money or something that they can spend on their gambling activity and they wont really realize until its too late and this had been a common behavior of most gambling addicted who do wreck out themselves before they do make out some self realizations.Majority of them would really be that shy on sharing up their problem or simply tell or confess it into their loved ones which would really result on self stress and minding their own problem until it would be busted out or when they cant already take it anymore.

This is the problem from addicted gambler as they don't care everything but for the funds they are willing to spend and lose.
they will find the problem once they already out of funds totally .
better to gamble only when you are capable to lose.

Quote from: rodskee on June 22, 2021, 07:26:16 AM

There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.

Hope that all areas of the world will have this mate because you seems to be a Hero at your own spence .

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

Replacing your worst addiction with a less addiction game or hobby that's not gonna harm your finance and mental health is a good move---boss move or should I asay maturity, because it all about self admittance and realization that in fact you're addicted and you need to be treated.

Diversifying or altering your vision on a lot of things or possibility to earn more money or to have entertainment other than gambling will help (in my opinion) to realize things about your addiction in gambling. Others just don't want it, therefore they are still stuck in the world of addiction in gambling.

Thank you for supporting me in this, because it's far from being obvious to everyone. People keep saying that all addictions are bad, while, in fact, some of them are much worse than others. Gambling addiction is among the dangerous ones, so replacing it with something less harmful is a success, not just "replacing one addiction with another". Of course drugs and alcohol should be out of the question.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

Quote from: Desmong on June 22, 2021, 02:02:05 PM

Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained, then more money can be achieved.

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Gambling addicts wont stop as long they do have money or something that they can spend on their gambling activity and they wont really realize until its too late and this had been a common behavior of most gambling addicted who do wreck out themselves before they do make out some self realizations.Majority of them would really be that shy on sharing up their problem or simply tell or confess it into their loved ones which would really result on self stress and minding their own problem until it would be busted out or when they cant already take it anymore.

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Quote from: Desmong on June 22, 2021, 02:02:05 PM

Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained, then more money can be achieved.

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

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Quote from: Desmong on June 22, 2021, 02:02:05 PM

Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained, then more money can be achieved.

It would really be called as career and not all would really be having that financial capacity or capability on sustaining himself on playing betting on sports for a very long time to make himself good at it even though it isnt really that right to make out conclusions but only a few do really succeed on this one and most or majority is really failing off.

Addiction does signify excessive involvement on a certain thing but i do agree that it does have some advantages on some point but most of the time

it will particularly reflect out on negative manner specially gamblers are way too impulsive when it comes to their bets or simply into handling out their finances.

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained, then more money can be achieved.

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There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.

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Quote from: hahay on June 18, 2021, 01:53:39 AM

Quote from: maydna on June 17, 2021, 11:03:35 PM

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Well, everyone has a concern for the people closest to them and that can be a strong impetus for them to provide input and advice about gambling addiction. But the problem is, when a gambling addict can still control his life so well that it doesn't appear that he is a gambling addict, then how can the people closest to him help. So in this case it is those gambling addicts who have really ruined their own lives and even for those around them, if that were the case surely there would be many people who would care for him to help get out of the gambling addiction that has ruined his life.

The closest people around the gambler can know if something different happens to that person because they are bond with a relationship that we can not know, and only they will know about that. But yes, if the addicted gambler doesn't realize that something wrong already happened to them, they will not ask for help about their problem. The closest people will make sure that they will help many things for that addicted person to gambling if they see that that addicted person start ruined his life.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on May 08, 2021, 08:00:58 PM

What the girl has been experiencing is true addiction. This is out of greed, but in most of the gamblers addiction happens as a result of trying to recover the loss.

Exactly, this the main reason of addicting in gambling. And the script take this advantage to help to win the house.

To be honest the addiction start to rise when someone win big amount luckily and start to think this is the only way of making money easily. it's very hard to remove the full addiction in short period. So addicted man should remove this slowly. Also religious book can help him in this case.

I agree with both of you. Once we win a big amount of money, our mind will think about chasing the other winning, and that makes us try to place another bet and hope that we can win the other money. It needs help from other people to drag them out from gambling, no matter what it takes. Reading a religious book helps them realize that what they did is wrong, and it is never too late to stop gambling.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 21, 2021, 11:35:22 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on May 08, 2021, 08:00:58 PM

What the girl has been experiencing is true addiction. This is out of greed, but in most of the gamblers addiction happens as a result of trying to recover the loss.

Exactly, this the main reason of addicting in gambling. And the script take this advantage to help to win the house.

To be honest the addiction start to rise when someone win big amount luckily and start to think this is the only way of making money easily. it's very hard to remove the full addiction in short period. So addicted man should remove this slowly. Also religious book can help him in this case.

I agree with your statement in terms of being lock with that perceptions that it's an easy access to earn decent amount of money, those who get that chance of winning huge at the start are very prone to keep coming back,

Thinking that they'll be able to win more, not realizing that with the time they've spent the chance that they'll lose more are very high. System learns and adjust , whatever strategy you think might work will not work in the long run.

then addiction will start to grow, after several times of losing the amount of you'll going to stake is far larger than the last one that you use, seeking for help with your friends and relatives is very first thing and medical attention should follow to balance what inside your mind.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on May 08, 2021, 08:00:58 PM

What the girl has been experiencing is true addiction. This is out of greed, but in most of the gamblers addiction happens as a result of trying to recover the loss.

Exactly, this the main reason of addicting in gambling. And the script take this advantage to help to win the house.

To be honest the addiction start to rise when someone win big amount luckily and start to think this is the only way of making money easily. it's very hard to remove the full addiction in short period. So addicted man should remove this slowly. Also religious book can help him in this case.

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

Replacing your worst addiction with a less addiction game or hobby that's not gonna harm your finance and mental health is a good move---boss move or should I say maturity, because it is all about self admittance and realization that in fact you're addicted and you need to be treated.

Diversifying or altering your vision on a lot of things or possibility to earn more money or to have entertainment other than gambling will help (in my opinion) to realize things about your addiction in gambling. Others just don't want it, therefore they are still stuck in the world of addiction in gambling.

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how much are you willing to pay me? opening the happiness chakra will get rid of any addiction, even from longing for a person

Is this method of threatening addiction of yours will work even in online?

This is a big help if you will pursue this service, you can write and create your own announcement thread here for that kind of service, and surely there are a lot of them that need to cure but I don't know how you will do it online. Because when you are in a stage level of addiction, it is really hard cure a person that already an addict, rehabilitation is the best choice for me.

the dependence is knocked out by the wedge-by-wedge method. If a woman has left, then she can be replaced by another woman. If an irreplaceable woman has left, then she can be replaced with alcohol. And if you are hooked on
alcohol or drugs, then it can be replaced by the opening of the happiness chakra

I am not a supporter of providing such a service because it interferes with what the chakra is closed for, I saw a request for help here so I wrote here

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

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Quote from: blackened515 on June 20, 2021, 06:58:20 PM

Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

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Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

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Addiction is very hard to overcome just like someone that is use to smoking. It only takes time, focus and the help of a counselor to deal with it.
Gambling is very interesting especially when you are making consistent cash from it. It has strong spirit or Bond that makes any person that has become addicted to keep on enjoying the vibes even though it comes with high risks.

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