Pages:
Author

Topic: Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth - page 4. (Read 4569 times)

member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
I believe in Bitcoin!
USA in its current incartion will lose most, because the dollar is used for saving all over the place.

But don't forget that all countries will win, because bitcoin is sound money.

Obviously the country with the strongest currency that can, to certain degree influence and manipulate the money market. I don't think I need to go on further about this, as you would have probably got the idea. Oh yeah, and also the countries where their currency becomes the world's reserve currencies.

Yes I agree
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
Why does a country have to lose? IF a country loses, it's people lose too. That doesn't allow those people to have much prosperity or wealth to then divert to Bitcoin as an alternative, right?

If Bitcoin becomes the currency of the world it'll be corrupted and manipulated as much as all other currencies are corrupted or manipulated combined!

I think bitcoin will never be the currency of this world because there will be too much polemic around this bitcoin. But lets say that bitcoin become the

currency? What will the government do? I dont think they have enough power to control all of bitcoin, because there are some people hold a quite good

amount of bitcoin. I dont think they will let it go just like that to pay taxes
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1005
USA in its current incartion will lose most, because the dollar is used for saving all over the place.

But don't forget that all countries will win, because bitcoin is sound money.
Q7
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Obviously the country with the strongest currency that can, to certain degree influence and manipulate the money market. I don't think I need to go on further about this, as you would have probably got the idea. Oh yeah, and also the countries where their currency becomes the world's reserve currencies.
staff
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6152
I don't think there will be any ... Bitcoin can't become the currency of planet earth between one night and another , it takes time and as soon as those haters see that bitcoin is spreading , they will switch to it because all they care about is money and nothing else and they can't afford losing money obviously .
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Loose lips sink sigs!
Why does a country have to lose? IF a country loses, it's people lose too. That doesn't allow those people to have much prosperity or wealth to then divert to Bitcoin as an alternative, right?

If Bitcoin becomes the currency of the world it'll be corrupted and manipulated as much as all other currencies are corrupted or manipulated combined!
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Any country without ease of access to the internet. Bitcoin will NEVER become a currency(not crypto currency) of anything. It's all virtual.
member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
I believe in Bitcoin!

Under simplified circumstances that question is easy to answer: Early adopting countries will win over late adopting countries, because Bitcoin's price will rise during adoption. Any central bank could buy a huge slice of Bitcoin's total monetary supply for chump change today. The risk is small, but the reward could be astronomically - imagine what would happen if a central bank would make an announcement of having purchased Bitcoin... it would be a bold statement of trust and would lead to prices skyrocketing, accelerating further adoption. The first central bank to do that will make a very smart move.

In the extreme long term anything is possible. What I don't see that clear is countries giving up on having a say on how they issue their currency. Then again, it's not like European countries have a say, at least half of Europe does what Merkel wants anyway.
the problem of poor country to take advantage of bitcoin is that for the fact that they are poor, they can't build a good infrastructure to support everything that could benift their activity if they were using bitcoin instead of their currency

instead country that are advanced and have not economic issues, could build a side by side structure that help bitcoin to growth, they don't need to replace fiat, they just need to support those that in their country want to choose bitcoin

and it is not a coincidence that the countries that are adopting bitcoin the most are in fact rich countries(maybe there is some exception...)


Is it really so simple?
I do understand that initially the countries with high financial abilities will embrace it, even if the government does not, the people will surely. This does make it seem that such countries will prosper most and benefit most from bitcoin.
Supposedly as time passes only the third world countries are left without wide bitcoin adoption. But as time does pass market forces will work towards ensuring that bitcoin becomes adopted, International Trade for one will, and the mindset of people in such countries will naturally be to prefer payments in the global currency, Profit seekers from the first world and second world countries can then offer to take services and pay in bitcoins.
The second limitation the infrastructure is being bypassed quickly, African countries show how efficiently mobiles can be used for btc, and it is set to develop.

What I seek to say is that as time passes Bitcoin will be adopted throughout the world not limited to technical constraints.
Here are where things get interesting,
Now bitcoin enables each country to earn as much as it has the capability to, the endowment of it's natural resources and the efficiency of it's human capital, will determine it's financial prowess.
Which is unlike a situation that exists today with economic dominance through finance control that exists. The banking on US $ being the reserve currency and each country have to convert to US$ for International Trade. Giving US immense power to arbitrarily balance it's trade payments.

legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
Under simplified circumstances that question is easy to answer: Early adopting countries will win over late adopting countries, because Bitcoin's price will rise during adoption. Any central bank could buy a huge slice of Bitcoin's total monetary supply for chump change today. The risk is small, but the reward could be astronomically - imagine what would happen if a central bank would make an announcement of having purchased Bitcoin... it would be a bold statement of trust and would lead to prices skyrocketing, accelerating further adoption. The first central bank to do that will make a very smart move.

That will never happen, but if it did, countries with less educated people and with a poor or non-existing Internet infrastructure would be excluded from the global financial markets.

Never say never. However I agree with your assessment, also because those countries with bad Internet infrastructure are also be the least likely to adopt Bitcoin in the first place.

ya.ya.yo!

I think your saying is contradictive, because without internet infrastructure you can't adopt bitcoin, you need at least a good internet infrastructure to

support your bitcoin so there will be mass in adoption bitcoin
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 251
Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth?

Additionally what happens to those pesky regulatory/"aiding" bodies, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT.

I have got my presumptions, what's your's?

US will be lost more if bitcoin moon and will be main payment in world, because Us dollar will be down
Bitcoin is limited only 21m and Us dollar can printing everyday without limit
I think not only the US alone, because the average of each country using the same kind of money to the US. so the possibility of the whole country will experience the same thing
copper member
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1007
Post your ann & bounty just contact me
Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth?

Additionally what happens to those pesky regulatory/"aiding" bodies, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT.

I have got my presumptions, what's your's?

US will be lost more if bitcoin moon and will be main payment in world, because Us dollar will be down
Bitcoin is limited only 21m and Us dollar can printing everyday without limit
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1024
Under simplified circumstances that question is easy to answer: Early adopting countries will win over late adopting countries, because Bitcoin's price will rise during adoption. Any central bank could buy a huge slice of Bitcoin's total monetary supply for chump change today. The risk is small, but the reward could be astronomically - imagine what would happen if a central bank would make an announcement of having purchased Bitcoin... it would be a bold statement of trust and would lead to prices skyrocketing, accelerating further adoption. The first central bank to do that will make a very smart move.

That will never happen, but if it did, countries with less educated people and with a poor or non-existing Internet infrastructure would be excluded from the global financial markets.

Never say never. However I agree with your assessment, also because those countries with bad Internet infrastructure are also be the least likely to adopt Bitcoin in the first place.

ya.ya.yo!
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 503

I don't think Bitcoin will replace national fiat currencies.. people attach their own currencies to their own countries, as an unique identity for their country. Unless people become more open minded in the future, I don't see it happening. Bitcoin may become the #1 worldwide payment method, but not necessarly replace the national currencies.

Regulators will exist as long as government and state exist.

Not necessarily euro is a collection of nations that dropped their national currencies for a common one.


Let's think about the extreme long term, when Bitcoin is the most used payment method, it will become the reserve currency.
People will believe more in Bitcoin than their own national currency, which will become very variable.

In the extreme long term anything is possible. What I don't see that clear is countries giving up on having a say on how they issue their currency. Then again, it's not like European countries have a say, at least half of Europe does what Merkel wants anyway.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
That will never happen, but if it did, countries with less educated people and with a poor or non-existing Internet infrastructure would be excluded from the global financial markets.
well obviously those who are against bitcoin and are banning it, are the first that will lose much then you have those that are restricting it

instead those that are regulating and taxing it i think they will gain more

How about thinking from another perspective.
These poor countries might not actually have much too loose, as a matter of fact I believe that such countries have much to gain, More efficient remittances, a new reserve currency, a currency for foreign trade that can not be controlled by a nation.

On the other hand countries which have already developed stand to loose a lot, they loose the reserve value of their currency, foreign payments shift to another currency over which they have no control. They can no longer just print and balance their trade.

the problem of poor country to take advantage of bitcoin is that for the fact that they are poor, they can't build a good infrastructure to support everything that could benift their activity if they were using bitcoin instead of their currency

instead country that are advanced and have not economic issues, could build a side by side structure that help bitcoin to growth, they don't need to replace fiat, they just need to support those that in their country want to choose bitcoin

and it is not a coincidence that the countries that are adopting bitcoin the most are in fact rich countries(maybe there is some exception...)
member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
I believe in Bitcoin!
Firstly you are wrongly assuming that "when bitcoin becomes the currency of planet earth" there is to much control a few have over the many to ever let this happen. Do you think they have been gaining all this control for all these years to grant bitcoin to be the currency of the planet and free peolple to an extent, 0% chance of that..

No country loses out because it will not happpen, and nothing will happen to the central banks if they really cared they could print the money and buy the bitcoin supply tomorrow which would cost them close to $0 any ideas why they haven't done this?

Because they could not care less about bitcoin doesn't change anything for them they still have 100% of the control they have always had.

Let's make it an hypothetical assumption.
I am not debating on the possibility of such a scenario.
But what if it happens, even hypothetically?
hero member
Activity: 501
Merit: 500
Firstly you are wrongly assuming that "when bitcoin becomes the currency of planet earth" there is to much control a few have over the many to ever let this happen. Do you think they have been gaining all this control for all these years to grant bitcoin to be the currency of the planet and free peolple to an extent, 0% chance of that..

No country loses out because it will not happpen, and nothing will happen to the central banks if they really cared they could print the money and buy the bitcoin supply tomorrow which would cost them close to $0 any ideas why they haven't done this?

Because they could not care less about bitcoin doesn't change anything for them they still have 100% of the control they have always had.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth?

Additionally what happens to those pesky regulatory/"aiding" bodies, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT.

I have got my presumptions, what's your's?
No country will loose any single penny, if they adopt the Bitcoin digital currency, despite the political parties and its leaders of any country in this world are the losers. Since after Bitcoin digital currency adoption, they cannot control the people's money as a centralized authority.
and how about huge banks that takes money now for all transactions? wouldnt they loose a lot of money as bitcoin doesnt require any fees?
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth?

Additionally what happens to those pesky regulatory/"aiding" bodies, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT.

I have got my presumptions, what's your's?
No country will loose any single penny, if they adopt the Bitcoin digital currency, despite the political parties and its leaders of any country in this world are the losers. Since after Bitcoin digital currency adoption, they cannot control the people's money as a centralized authority.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
That will never happen, but if it did, countries with less educated people and with a poor or non-existing Internet infrastructure would be excluded from the global financial markets.

It will happen if bitcoin becomes the currency, but it will take a long time to make this happen and I dont think there is any country that didnt have any

internet infrastructure nowadays. To support their work you really need internet, although it is just email.
member
Activity: 90
Merit: 10
I believe in Bitcoin!
Currency of planet earth? What are the chances of that happening? If it does, according to how things are now, countries like north korea which have non existent internet support will be excluded from global markets and other such activities.

I don't mean to say now, thinking about the long term.
How about 100 years from now??
Pages:
Jump to: