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Quote from: justspare on February 24, 2019, 11:19:13 AM

All joking aside with that type of money they could easily buy nitrogen and swc poker so they would go dice+casino+sportsbook+poker all owned by them however they could also develop it themselves as well not like they have trouble marketing anything. The difference is, when you fund the bankroll, its JUST for bankroll and they don't need that, funding the whole company is different

Actually, we can't be sure of anything in this regard

I mean, how do we know if they haven't already bought or developed the whole spectrum of products related to online betting and gambling? We know that Stunna is behind Stake simply because he chose to admit that himself for promotion purposes or something else. But maybe he is also behind some of the other big guns in the field (financially or otherwise) but he just chose not to tell us anything about it (yet)

That reminds me of the rumors that had been circulating a couple decades or so ago about Intel buying AMD stock to support them financially. It may look a bit counterintuitive - really, why would they ever want to help their best frenemy and competitor? But if we take into account other rumors about dividing Intel into a several independent companies by regulating authorities (like Standard Oil of the Rockefeller fame), that makes sense after all

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There is a huge difference between facebooks public offering and bankroll investment. I mean if primedice ever wants to sell their shares that could create a lot of love and funding, we need to of course see a ton of accounting data in order to know how reasonable it is and how many stocks from what price and so forth but in the end that would get a lot of attention and would help primedice a lot. Dudes could buy out all of crypto casino world all together with that.

All joking aside with that type of money they could easily buy nitrogen and swc poker so they would go dice+casino+sportsbook+poker all owned by them however they could also develop it themselves as well not like they have trouble marketing anything. The difference is, when you fund the bankroll, its JUST for bankroll and they don't need that, funding the whole company is different.

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if gambling investment i recommend bitvest. Bitvest gives you many options on how your money will be spent in the investment. Time lock or the duration, what games are you going to invest and such. The minimum investment is 0.01 (can be affordable)

0.01 is really affordable to start investing to the gambling site. But I think once you invest only 0.01 bitcoin that payour or the profit that possible you get from them is very little. So better to bigger the amount that possible to invest maybe 0.1 bitcoin is minimum for your investment and return will be good or enough. Bitvest is good gambling site that can you really invest money while you playing games too.

It is good for everyone as not every one has money or has very little investment being done as mostly people would be holding from the highs of 2017 and due to which their investment would have fallen significantly. Not bad to stay invested in it as for long term holders they would get some earning from it.

Getting the point that instead of holding your funds while waiting for the rise to happen again, that's a good idea especially to those who really holding the coins until now, those investors who ride between 2017 till first quarter of 2018, bankroll investment can bring them passive income, unlike storing it alone without doing nothing.

Not that much risk unlike trying with trading where the potential of losing more is higher without any knowledge.

Investing into gambling site seems to be less risky than crypto trading but crypto trader with unique knowledge can also passive income. Mins you, the two investment have it own potential and no investment will ever guarantee ones profit every time. However, knowing the depth of the two investment is every essential though.

I really hope you really don't think that way, if you're trading in normal situations you can't possibly lose all your investment, but putting your money in some betting website hoping that they don't exit scam ?, most of the sites that offer decent interest on investment are one way or another scam anyway, and if you ever going to do this you better be sure that they're legit.

You're right with what you said about trading in normal wouldn't lead to loosing all investment but that only apply to experienced trading because the key to crypto lied on the time of entering and exiting the market which was the same thing that applied to gambling either cause alot of gamblers find it so hard to exit the game which is the best way of cutting losses. However, the site you mentioned that offer interest on investment are usually a ponzi site in the long run but investing into reputable gambling id quite right if know the basic rules and regulations involve.

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Quote from: adaseb on February 24, 2019, 02:41:14 AM

Yes sites like PD and Stake have loads of BTC and don't need investments for their bankroll but it doesn't necessarily mean they won't offer it in the future.

A good example is Facebook. Facebook had massive money and they went public, why? To raise funds and invest those funds into other projects. And looking at the Facebook stock it was pretty succesful in doing so

I think these are two entirely different things

For example, when you are investing in the casino bankroll, you are expecting to receive a share of the profits earned by the casino and it is legally binding (at least this is what you expect). But with stock it is different and you are not guaranteed to receive dividends even if the company earns huge profits

For example, if major stockholders decide to reinvest these profits (or whatever other than paying out dividends), you will receive nothing. In this way, investing in the bankroll is more like investing directly in a business, i.e. you become an owner of that business (some part of it) and can demand your piece of the pie

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Yes sites like PD and Stake have loads of BTC and don't need investments for their bankroll but it doesn't necessarily mean they won't offer it in the future.

A good example is Facebook. Facebook had massive money and they went public, why? To raise funds and invest those funds into other projects. And looking at the Facebook stock it was pretty succesful in doing so.

With Gambling sites its no different however at the moment its just not in their agenda most likely.

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Yeah they are already rich as hell so why would stake or primedice would want to get funding.

I mean look at the funding from other places, they do not get above couple thousand at most. Primedice is a place that has been around since forever and they got like couple bitcoins per wager for a long time while bitcoin was incredibly low priced as well, betting 10k on primedice was much different back in the day than today, it took hundreds of btc to do that. Which means they made so much money from those days that it worth incredibly more today.

They literally got scammed 2000 bitcoins from a seed hacker and still continued their way. They do not obviously need any funding at all because they have been making like a bank forever and what we can offer as a bankroll would be lower than what they have let alone be more than what they need.

No one is too rich, the whole reason people get successful and more so is simply because they are hungry for more success.

There may be no good business reason now for these guys to seek more funding, but who knows? So many good reasons to want more funds. If Telegram even wanted an ICO and had good reason, why not? See all the amounts they raised, guess investors thought it was a good idea too.

For casinos, it's simply expansion. Maybe they want to grow even bigger and take over the gambling world online Wink

There is a huge difference between getting an investment and getting your bankroll invested. One is getting money to expand bigger the other is so you can get less risky while running a casino. Primedice or stake wouldn't do bankroll investment because honestly they have so much money that they do not need bitcoins to cover for the bankroll, what you are talking about expanding is not there because its just getting bankroll investment help, not funding.

They could get their websites funded by people (and believe me it would take just 1 day to reach to tens of thousands of bitcoin funded) and then go out and use their own money to get bigger but they are already doing that as well, look at stake its brand new compared to primedice, they literally used their own money to fund primedice then made profits and used it to open stake so they literally do not need any help from us.

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I recently joined a new site since last week, called Bitvest. I put in my investment there, more than $150. It is a big amount for me,,, but I had been collecting some bonuses recently from the end of 2018 and decided I will invest the extra in BTC. But different from my own personal holdings, I wanted to experiment by investing in a casino bankroll.

Many others as mentioned above, but I wanted a site with visibility:)

Im beginner.How much should I start? Im afraid that is scammers.

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

if you are a beginner you should read bitcointalk forum more

there are many legit casinos that offer investment, simply google and read the corresponding topics
Ponzi scammers have nothing to do with the gambling sites, totally diffrent sites and totally different ways of earning money
investment is risky too , do not think of it as 100% risk free

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try this casino stake.com
it is good

It is not enough to say that the casino is good. You should add some features on why people should try it out, the features and other stuffs that they can enjoy and benefit from it.

I know it's a good casino and is a sister company of primedice but I can't see that they have an investment option.

Stake apparently doesn't offer this option

And neither does PrimeDice, for that matter. I remember as a few years ago this question had been raised (when many casinos opened their bankrolls for outside investments), and Stunna (if I'm not confusing him with someone else here) said that they simply didn't need this kind of money

And it makes sense actually. If they are generating enough profits on their own, they may not want this kind of "fundraising". Anyway, any established casino (at least, as I see it) can take the path of private investments (i.e. bring in a couple of extremely rich investors) if they ever choose so

I believe from the start of their primedice site, they already made tons of profit and I can say that they also have a great bankroll, so with some big bankroll they can manage to offer this huge payout as well even they got scammed last time with really huge amount. And now they are profitting and opened a new site as stake.com with primedice profit I guess. So yes, they completely do not need our money to support them Grin

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I recently joined a new site since last week, called Bitvest. I put in my investment there, more than $150. It is a big amount for me,,, but I had been collecting some bonuses recently from the end of 2018 and decided I will invest the extra in BTC. But different from my own personal holdings, I wanted to experiment by investing in a casino bankroll.

Many others as mentioned above, but I wanted a site with visibility:)

Im beginner.How much should I start? Im afraid that is scammers.

There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.

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I am very interested to know which gambling sites are offering investments, I research it but it seems like information is not updated.
Please put the terms like the percentage and whatever necessary information that I should know.

There are some. You can take a look at luckyblock.com You purchase a loterry ticket there and you have a right to particitae in a draw of 7 jackpots! Not a simple investment actually but still

I have already purchased some tickets in LuckyBlock. Im not sure how long it will live ( you know, lets face it, such gambling websites dont live forever Grin

) but this is an opportunity to earn and it would be a foolishness to loose it

You already told that gambling investment sites don't live forever and you still invested in Luckyblock. There are many chances that site run away with the people money before being actually paying the people.

I never trust investment sites and advise everyone to stay out of it.

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Quote from: rodel caling on February 23, 2019, 06:04:19 AM

Haha first time I heard about this question that's gambling site offers investment, gambling is play for fun and play for fear to enjoy not for investment. Cheesy

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Sharing stock to the owners of the gambling site as investors it is possible but need huge of money before can do that

It is more like you don't have a clue what this topic is about

As it is definitely not about gambling as a form of investing (which has been explained many times in the thread, just in case). And as you also seem to admit that it is the first time you hear about gambling sites (aka online casinos) offering the investment option, it speaks more about yourself and your familiarity (or rather lack thereof) with the matter in question. Many casinos had been offering this option (i.e. investing in the bankroll) in the past and some probably still do. In other words, it is not something exceptionally rare (read, such ignorance is rare)

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Just in case, you could borrow too if you wanted to start an online casino. And then you could try to attract venture capital in every possible way (including investments in the bankroll). Though competition is tight on this front and you will have to come up with a really brilliant idea to succeed in this area

I have no plans of making my own online casino, it's too stressful and getting traffic needs not only hard work but determination too. This is why many of the people here admires Stunna because of his works of establishing these two well known and reputable casino's

I was joking, obviously

Jokes aside, it is not only about being too stressful. We should not forget about the first-mover advantage also. Those first cryptocasinos which are still in the game have this edge as in this business the longer you stay in it, the longer people expect you to stick around in the future (read, trust plays a crucial role here). So it is hard for the new kids on the block to make it to the top even if they are stress resistant and hell bent on making it

You have to offer really unique experience and features to your players just to be able to compete on par with the industry leaders like the ones mentioned here

The casino's should read what you have said and I think that they are aware of this kind of features that they have to offer to their gamblers and also to their investors.

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if you want to invest in any gambling sites, it is
eosbet.io
the reasons are simple, they have been up and running for half year, and has paid over 1.8m USD divs out.

Can you give more idea on how much you should hold or invest to their platform in order to receive such good amounts of dividends? This offer isn't new anymore but I always see those people who wear their sigs but I'm not aware that they offer like this.

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Haha first time I heard about this question that's gambling site offers investment, gambling is play for fun and play for fear to enjoy not for investment. Cheesy

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Sharing stock to the owners of the gambling site as investors it is possible but need huge of money before can do that.

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if you want to invest in any gambling sites, it is
eosbet.io
the reasons are simple, they have been up and running for half year, and has paid over 1.8m USD divs out.

Eosbet.io is really good gambling site, I've played to the eosbet since last few weeks ago and so far the service is good.
I see also that they are offering investment and you can invest to eosbet.io if you want and I try it also to invest.
$1.8 million dollars divs out is really big and for sure it will become higher in the next few months with another millions divs out again.

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try this casino stake.com
it is good

It is not enough to say that the casino is good. You should add some features on why people should try it out, the features and other stuffs that they can enjoy and benefit from it.

I know it's a good casino and is a sister company of primedice but I can't see that they have an investment option.

Stake apparently doesn't offer this option

And neither does PrimeDice, for that matter. I remember as a few years ago this question had been raised (when many casinos opened their bankrolls for outside investments), and Stunna (if I'm not confusing him with someone else here) said that they simply didn't need this kind of money

And it makes sense actually. If they are generating enough profits on their own, they may not want this kind of "fundraising". Anyway, any established casino (at least, as I see it) can take the path of private investments (i.e. bring in a couple of extremely rich investors) if they ever choose so

You're not wrong, Stunna's also the owner of PrimeDice and that's how the origins of Stake happened

I had been there when it happened

Though I don't think it is actually about different objectives (as you say further in your post). From my perspective, it is more about available opportunities (options). Really, when you start a business, you don't have a lot of choice at first. It is not like you can easily find a lot of solid investors unless you already built a name and plenty of trust. But this is never the case when you just start off

Things might have been and probably had actually been different at the dawn of crypto (say, in 2011-2013) when there were a lot of investors full of cheap bitcoins willing to invest them. But these times are long gone and now you have to fight for the venture capital (especially after the ICO disaster). In this manner, public bankroll can provide you with some capital but not much and for mostly the same reasons

Quote from: Ewinsane on February 23, 2019, 03:44:28 AM

They literally got scammed 2000 bitcoins from a seed hacker and still continued their way

It was more like 200 bitcoins (in 2013 if I'm not mistaken)

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Quote from: leonair on February 22, 2019, 12:34:16 PM

Gambling sites would want investors if they want to start a project that needs funding(so obviously they don't have enough money yet when in this stage.)

If they are already operating online for quite sometime then what's the point of them getting investors, I once joined an ICO of a lottery site before and I got a good amount of money because of their token that I've been sold for a good price.

But this is a paradox.

Why would anyone want to invest in a newly established casino which doesn't have funds to operate in the first place? (Unless you know the owners personally)

I wouldn't.

I would invest only if the casino is already making money.

And if the casino is already making money, the owners wouldn't want to share their profits with other people... (unless they are very generous.)

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Quote from: Ewinsane on February 23, 2019, 03:44:28 AM

Yeah they are already rich as hell so why would stake or primedice would want to get funding.

I mean look at the funding from other places, they do not get above couple thousand at most. Primedice is a place that has been around since forever and they got like couple bitcoins per wager for a long time while bitcoin was incredibly low priced as well, betting 10k on primedice was much different back in the day than today, it took hundreds of btc to do that. Which means they made so much money from those days that it worth incredibly more today.

They literally got scammed 2000 bitcoins from a seed hacker and still continued their way. They do not obviously need any funding at all because they have been making like a bank forever and what we can offer as a bankroll would be lower than what they have let alone be more than what they need.

No one is too rich, the whole reason people get successful and more so is simply because they are hungry for more success.

There may be no good business reason now for these guys to seek more funding, but who knows? So many good reasons to want more funds. If Telegram even wanted an ICO and had good reason, why not? See all the amounts they raised, guess investors thought it was a good idea too.

For casinos, it's simply expansion. Maybe they want to grow even bigger and take over the gambling world online Wink

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Yeah they are already rich as hell so why would stake or primedice would want to get funding.

I mean look at the funding from other places, they do not get above couple thousand at most. Primedice is a place that has been around since forever and they got like couple bitcoins per wager for a long time while bitcoin was incredibly low priced as well, betting 10k on primedice was much different back in the day than today, it took hundreds of btc to do that. Which means they made so much money from those days that it worth incredibly more today.

They literally got scammed 2000 bitcoins from a seed hacker and still continued their way. They do not obviously need any funding at all because they have been making like a bank forever and what we can offer as a bankroll would be lower than what they have let alone be more than what they need.

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I am very interested to know which gambling sites are offering investments, I research it but it seems like information is not updated.
Please put the terms like the percentage and whatever necessary information that I should know.

There are some. You can take a look at luckyblock.com You purchase a loterry ticket there and you have a right to particitae in a draw of 7 jackpots! Not a simple investment actually but still

I have already purchased some tickets in LuckyBlock. Im not sure how long it will live ( you know, lets face it, such gambling websites dont live forever Grin

) but this is an opportunity to earn and it would be a foolishness to loose it

Well, LuckyBlock has successfuly passed the smart contract audit process and gonna lauch the next month. I dont think it will be like another Ponzi scheme and will live long enough. Of course any investment/gambling has to be in accordance with risk managment but still..

Smart contract audit does not guarantee that site wont scam in the first month of work. Most likely it will. But untill it happens the early users will earn good money. It is as usual the last pays for the first

Alright, has a sense. In any case Im one of those "first" users in LuckyBlock project. Will earn sone money either way
PS at least I hope so Grin

Hm, seems indeed solid project that LuckyBlock. Need to try it. You telling it is still in the process of launch? So not laucned yet and I can not play in any game?

Yes, it is still in the process of development. It will be launched in March but your can purchase the tickets for the games now with much bigger discount comparing to the time when lottery is fully ready

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