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hero member
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March 03, 2019, 05:30:10 PM
Various sites have been visiting lately. I try to vary and constantly compare to find the best.
If you ever had some conclusion about your comparison and what you think is the best, comment it here so investors/gamblers will have that idea on what casino should we start investing or trying out.

Personally, it might be better to invest into bitcoin, and top altcoins, rather than take risks and spend time to find out potential casinos to invest.
Investing to a casino is different from investing to bitcoin or holding altcoins. There's also a risk in holding, while in investing to casino's the quantity of btc can grow in number not just in value. Both are risky, to be honest.
legendary
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March 03, 2019, 12:54:39 PM
We do not need to be harsh on places that take money from the investors, crypto-games has been around for 4 years now and they still allow you to invest there, last I remember just-dice was the same (haven't checked in years but they were one of the if not the first place to allow off-chain dice) and all these places and the owners of these places have enough money to allow the casino to bankroll itself but they already started that way so they do not want to cancel it now.

It would scare away too many customers so instead of using their money to cancel the investments and bankroll the casino they allow people to bankroll the casino and use their own money to buy other stuff like other casinos or new codes and what not. I am not saying investments will always be good things you profit but there are places like that out there that exists.
hero member
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March 02, 2019, 01:30:51 AM
As same as what happened with exchanges, service fees, trading/ gambling order fees are enough for casinos' or exchanges' owners.
From what I know well known and established fully legal casinos don't offer any investments because they don't need too.

It is too risky, so I agreed with you.
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Only new and struggling casinos not fully regulated will allow you to invest in many different ways. They need money to be able to run the business, your money.

So don't be disappointed when you will lose in the end.
Personally, it might be better to invest into bitcoin, and top altcoins, rather than take risks and spend time to find out potential casinos to invest.
legendary
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March 01, 2019, 10:10:06 PM
From what I know well known and established fully legal casinos don't offer any investments because they don't need too.

Only new and struggling casinos not fully regulated will allow you to invest in many different ways. They need money to be able to run the business, your money.

So don't be disappointed when you will lose in the end.
sr. member
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March 01, 2019, 05:12:30 PM
 You could try this site https://www.bustabit.com  .
Here read these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bustabit-the-original-crash-game-2897545
Seem's like they are accepting investors for their site,
And it has been in the industry for a long time,
The game is exciting and also have so many player .
legendary
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March 01, 2019, 01:09:05 PM
The point is they do not deal with fiat, they deal with bitcoin and give you interest rate on that, if you can't create your assumptions on why that would be more beneficial to you than there is not much people can talk about to convince you anyway.

Another great one I just learned about is the eosbet, those dudes are basically making a place where it is controlled by nobody, run by nobody and bankrolled by everyone so basically there is no controlling system that would try to scam anyone, it has been used by a lot of people but it is not big enough to make a difference yet, I suppose because its eos and not something like eth or btc which would have made it into bigger.

I suppose that will be the future of bitcoin gambling investment very soon and people will prefer those types of places to invest.
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February 28, 2019, 05:31:01 PM
Well, honestly, I am not gonna take that, the return is very low considering it's a high risk investment.
I feel it's easier if I will just put my money in the bank with a time deposit of 1 year and I'm sure I will get an interest rate higher than that although lower than 10% per year.
Interest rates of the banks for time deposit are much lower and it's subject to withholding tax or any kind of applicable tax depending on the country you are residing.
hero member
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February 28, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
The point is not to have 4% for your national fiat tough, the point is to have %4 in bitcoin. If you put your money in the bank you put it in national fiat amount and bitcoin could go up at that moment which means even if you are making a profit with your interest you are losing a chance to make more profit in bitcoin. Your bank can give you %20 a year in national fiat but if bitcoin goes up %25 this year that means you are missing out.

So this investment freebitco.in has is for people who think bitcoin will go up in value, you put your bitcoin in there and make more bitcoin from the interest and also hope that you make money from bitcoin increasing as well. So you see its a lot different than the interest bank gives you, you can make money with both ways thanks to freebitco.in whereas you make money only in one way at the bank. The question you need to ask yourself will bitcoin go up or down, if you think its going up than freebitco.in is better option, if you think it will go down than bank is the better option.
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February 28, 2019, 12:18:38 AM
some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.

Quite difficult choice to go with such a low interest rates. In our country the interest rate in the bank is higher than this and also if given to friends or other you can earn much more than this. Might be in your country interest rate would be on lower end due to which you may be better with this rate.
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February 27, 2019, 11:56:32 PM
some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.
Well, honestly, I am not gonna take that, the return is very low considering it's a high risk investment.
I feel it's easier if I will just put my money in the bank with a time deposit of 1 year and I'm sure I will get an interest rate higher than that although lower than 10% per year.
You have your point, but if you are also believing that bitcoin will grow and the value will be much higher after some time, it's best to take that risk and
invest your money for passive earnings, aside from 4% yearly profits the fact that bitcoin might increase unlike with placing your money with the banks
where you are just entitle to gain the increased that has been allocated.

Taking the risk for much better/ higher outcome, it's for the investors to choose using their own assessment.
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February 27, 2019, 09:22:54 PM
some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.
Well, honestly, I am not gonna take that, the return is very low considering it's a high risk investment.
I feel it's easier if I will just put my money in the bank with a time deposit of 1 year and I'm sure I will get an interest rate higher than that although lower than 10% per year.
legendary
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February 27, 2019, 04:30:21 PM
some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.

Are there any others like freebitco.in? I didn't see any other service like freebitco.in so far. They are offering %4.08/year which is very good and they have a long history which makes them even a better choice over the others. I like constant returns more than the fluctuating ones.
legendary
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February 27, 2019, 12:07:03 PM
I bet they have at least thousands of bitcoins in their name, if not over ten thousand bitcoins. We are talking about primedice that lost over 2 thousand dollars in hacking and still didn't had any issues at all. Stake is now having its V2 as well so that shows us stake is doing good because if something is not doing well there is no point on reinvesting into it but if its going well than reinvesting is a smart business decision.

On the other hand there are still legit places like crypto-games and just-dice and many like that which takes investments as well. Some make you the bankroll and that is good, some like freebitco.in offers stable return (for their case 4% yearly in btc) and so forth. Just because a place is rich doesn't mean they don't need money from people, there is always room for more money and more things to be done with that money.
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February 26, 2019, 04:23:07 PM
There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.
There are casino's that are coming out like this but if a legit casino offers bankroll investment, don't think that it's like this. There's more for these casino's to tune in because they are legit operating and most of the investment opportunities they offer are all legit.

Reminder: this is for those casino's that are reputable.
I think nowadays we have more casinos that are legit and most of them are not accepting investments.
Stake and primedice are good casinos and as far as I know, they never once made an investment open for the public.
They are still profitable now and they are willing to take the risk since they are confident that their site will survive and will continue to operate profitably.
Those who are established well doesn't cater or offer investments anymore but before during the early days, most of them does. The two casino's you mentioned are well reputed and has a very reputable owner. They never made any public announcement for investment because they already have enough budget to cover their operation and expenses. I wouldn't guess on how much the budget for those 2 big casino's you mentioned, primedice is well known and has been operating for years too.
legendary
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February 26, 2019, 02:45:50 PM
The reason for obvious good casinos is that when a casino is even attempting to scam someone, hell even when they are trying to check if they are paying the right person with KYC we make a huge scene. So, the only casinos that stays above the water are the really legit ones, we discredit and neg the bad ones and even some slow and incompetent ones as well even if they are not scam. That is why you can see on the forum which ones are really good and which ones are not to be trusted.

Also the amount of "ranking of x" type of topics are more common now where you can go in and check which websites are ranked high and why and which websites ranked low and why and that way you can see which website you could invest and not get scammed for it. Easier said than done but its a lot better than blindly going for it.
hero member
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February 24, 2019, 09:37:06 PM
There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.
There are casino's that are coming out like this but if a legit casino offers bankroll investment, don't think that it's like this. There's more for these casino's to tune in because they are legit operating and most of the investment opportunities they offer are all legit.

Reminder: this is for those casino's that are reputable.
I think nowadays we have more casinos that are legit and most of them are not accepting investments.
Stake and primedice are good casinos and as far as I know, they never once made an investment open for the public.
They are still profitable now and they are willing to take the risk since they are confident that their site will survive and will continue to operate profitably.
hero member
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February 24, 2019, 04:14:08 PM
There are a lot of gambling sites which are a scammer and those sites who offer investment plan like a Ponzi is too much risk, we should avoid those types of Ponzi scammers.
There are casino's that are coming out like this but if a legit casino offers bankroll investment, don't think that it's like this. There's more for these casino's to tune in because they are legit operating and most of the investment opportunities they offer are all legit.

Reminder: this is for those casino's that are reputable.
legendary
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February 24, 2019, 12:53:10 PM
I am very interested to know which gambling sites are offering investments, I research it but it seems like information is not updated.
Please put the terms like the percentage and whatever necessary information that I should know.

I was just writing a comment a few minutes ago in a thread about scam ICO in the gambling industry.

I don't mention the name for a purpose to not advertise this scam anymore to anybody.

I hope this will give you a little thinking before investing in this type of ICO or any ICO.
legendary
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February 24, 2019, 12:46:19 PM
All joking aside with that type of money they could easily buy nitrogen and swc poker so they would go dice+casino+sportsbook+poker all owned by them however they could also develop it themselves as well not like they have trouble marketing anything. The difference is, when you fund the bankroll, its JUST for bankroll and they don't need that, funding the whole company is different

Actually, we can't be sure of anything in this regard

I mean, how do we know if they haven't already bought or developed the whole spectrum of products related to online betting and gambling? We know that Stunna is behind Stake simply because he chose to admit that himself for promotion purposes or something else. But maybe he is also behind some of the other big guns in the field (financially or otherwise) but he just chose not to tell us anything about it (yet)

That reminds me of the rumors that had been circulating a couple decades or so ago about Intel buying AMD stock to support them financially. It may look a bit counterintuitive - really, why would they ever want to help their best frenemy and competitor? But if we take into account other rumors about dividing Intel into a several independent companies by regulating authorities (like Standard Oil of the Rockefeller fame), that makes sense after all
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February 24, 2019, 10:19:13 AM
There is a huge difference between facebooks public offering and bankroll investment. I mean if primedice ever wants to sell their shares that could create a lot of love and funding, we need to of course see a ton of accounting data in order to know how reasonable it is and how many stocks from what price and so forth but in the end that would get a lot of attention and would help primedice a lot. Dudes could buy out all of crypto casino world all together with  that.

All joking aside with that type of money they could easily buy nitrogen and swc poker so they would go dice+casino+sportsbook+poker all owned by them however they could also develop it themselves as well not like they have trouble marketing anything. The difference is, when you fund the bankroll, its JUST for bankroll and they don't need that, funding the whole company is different.
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