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sr. member
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January 06, 2016, 06:05:11 PM
#45
Yobit promotes scams like c-cex

Only poloniex and bittrex seems to be legit exhanges.
They promote themself also professional with good support. Something yobit needs to learn clearly.
legendary
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January 06, 2016, 03:38:48 PM
#44
new rank
bitfinex
BTCe YuanHao
Live Polo Hit
38 Polo bitrex bleu cryptopia
gather southX use bx.th indoBTC
CCex Yo jubi bter
nxt-securea metaexchange burst xem
alcurex dashcurex
alt.market coins-e
coinbrokerio talkotc
monetago torDD ccedk

most impressive
http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/ccedk/
jr. member
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January 06, 2016, 10:03:16 AM
#43
interesting results here, but doesn't poloniex suffer from low volume?
hero member
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November 19, 2015, 03:16:17 PM
#42
For sure BTC38 being the worst platform I've ever used. However this does not matter, because I’m afraid any massive bitcoin bull run is likely going to send the whole altcoin world to its doom eventually.
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November 19, 2015, 08:21:32 AM
#41
Bleutrade should be included. Top exchange. (+ Cryptopia)
legendary
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November 19, 2015, 08:20:11 AM
#40
@entertheabyss
don't take the h8te too seriously.  this can be prickly group:)  at least you're doing 'it'.  hope it works out, but give it time.

i am not a fan of Poloniex and if they want to rat you out to regulators well at least we're informed.  hopefully this leads to 'well regulated' exchange that encourages the average Joe's to enter crypto.

'Rex I guess will swing back into popularity.  But they missed the boat in establishing a collection of solid coins, and instead focused on RyanPump/SurplusBob con coins, but if Crapsty goes under then they get a chance to grab a few good markets.

CCex always seemed fishy ... but they just might turn out to be an 'established' exchange.

There's room for 10-20 solid exchange houses.  And likely 3-5 top tier 'ALT' markets.

Ultimately I am looking forward the one big super market.  You can manage the books via desktop software, and arb bots will instantaneously fill orders by constantly sniffing the API feeds of 30-40 exchanges.

I think the days of housing coins at the exchange are limited to 1-2 more years.  And in 2016 we should see some exchanges offering better ways to trade. (Currently they want your coins to arb the market themselves (else stake'm) do the fractional reserve thing).  

The one you need on the list is Bleutrade.  They don't have the volume, but I've never heard of anything screwy and they've been around for a long time.  Cryptopia, yes looks promising but it needs some 'professionalism' lessons.
jr. member
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November 16, 2015, 11:42:35 AM
#39
What so good about Poloniex? and it looks like votes are piling up for Ccex which is unexpected, do you guys think that bittrex is losing favor, it's been a bit of a ghost town lately?
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 03:29:30 PM
#38
Saying everyone trusts Satoshi because they trust Bitcoin is an extremely weak argument.

OK, but that's not what I said. Its a straw-man http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

I would work on my attention to detail before insinuating that other people lack it. But then again without attention to professionalism why bother?


This argument has now gone beyond the scope of the thread, lets stop.



LOL i love how you called it a straw-man but you didn't actually clarify what you meant when you said "Satoshi was anonymous yet people trust him."

So please, explain. I'm waiting with bated breath to hear what you meant if not that people trust him through their use of Bitcoin.
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
#37
Saying everyone trusts Satoshi because they trust Bitcoin is an extremely weak argument.

OK, but that's not what I said. Its a straw-man http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

I would work on my attention to detail before insinuating that other people lack it. But then again without attention to professionalism why bother?


This argument has now gone beyond the scope of the thread, lets stop.
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
#36
*sigh* this is one of those conversations... Cry

If you read my response again I never actually accused you directly of accusing me directly of being a scam.  So if you're not accusing me of accusing you of accusing me of being a scam, attention to detail and professional communication is not your strongest suit.

But , lets not play these, he said, she said games. Its possible to build trust while being pseudonymous, I have a reputation going back a while, if you care to investigate. Satoshi was anonymous yet people trust him. I would say he has quite a impressive following despite the fact nobody knows he is.

But whatever you clearly don't want to use it, I wish you the best.



Yeah, "one of those conversations" - Roll Eyes

Such professionalism.

Your so-called reputation is meaningless in the context of a long-con. Saying everyone trusts Satoshi because they trust Bitcoin is an extremely weak argument. The only reason people trust Bitcoin is because countless academics, mathematicians and cryptographers have gone through and analysed the code line by line.

You're losing more credibility with each post imho.
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 03:00:06 PM
#35
Listen Im not really interested in have a flame Woar. Lets just say, you got your point across and i got my point across and call it a day.
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November 14, 2015, 02:58:29 PM
#34

PS: chained VPN > Tor


Don't even get me started...
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 02:46:47 PM
#33
*sigh* this is one of those conversations... Cry

If you read my response again I never actually accused you directly of accusing me directly of being a scam.  So if you're not accusing me of accusing you of accusing me of being a scam, attention to detail and professional communication is not your strongest suit.

But , lets not play these, he said, she said games. Its possible to build trust while being pseudonymous, I have a reputation going back a while, if you care to investigate. Satoshi was anonymous yet people trust him. I would say he has quite a impressive following despite the fact nobody knows he is.

But whatever you clearly don't want to use it, I wish you the best.


Accusing me of running a scam has no weigh, I am committed to transparency, if you have any question feel free to PM me I would be happy to talk to you and answer any questions to the best of my abilities.

I'm sorry that you don't like how I talk, if you don't like my service. Feel free to stick to poloniex by all means. Still i think the concerns I point out are valid. Just because currently they allow deposits now it doesn't stop them from changing their ID rules or blocking tor nodes without notice like they did last time. They are operating a Finsen business, how long do you expect it will take?

They would never, what? Blocking tor exit nodes or forcing accounts associated with them to register is in the interest of the financial authorities. If you think you are anonymous using clearnet financial services, that they would never betray you, then I have nothing to sell. But, did they give notice last time? Just a thought.

Also pointing out that we have been hacked less times (0) than they have (50k USD ). We have security measures in place like ACID databases. I'm sure they do now after the fact. And yes they paid them back, they were pretty transparent about it.

Its clear that poloniex is moving to become more established and offer more mainstream services, that kind of business will inevitably turn its back on the privacy community.





If you read my response again I never actually accused you directly of being a scam. I said you were untrustworthy which is 100% fact (anons are untrustworthy be definition). So if you're not a scam, attention to detail and professional communication is not your strongest suit.

Satoshi invented a trustless monetary system, yet here you are asking people to trust you.
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November 14, 2015, 02:16:24 PM
#32
Accusing me of running a scam has no weigh, I am committed to transparency, if you have any question feel free to PM me I would be happy to talk to you and answer any questions to the best of my abilities.

I'm sorry that you don't like how I talk, if you don't like my service. Feel free to stick to poloniex by all means. Still i think the concerns I point out are valid. Just because currently they allow deposits now it doesn't stop them from changing their ID rules or blocking tor nodes without notice like they did last time. They are operating a Finsen business, how long do you expect it will take?

They would never, what? Blocking tor exit nodes or forcing accounts associated with them to register is in the interest of the financial authorities. If you think you are anonymous using clearnet financial services, that they would never betray you, then I have nothing to sell. But, did they give notice last time? Just a thought.

Also pointing out that we have been hacked less times (0) than they have (50k USD ). We have security measures in place like ACID databases. I'm sure they do now after the fact. And yes they paid them back, they were pretty transparent about it.

Its clear that poloniex is moving to become more established and offer more mainstream services, that kind of business will inevitably turn its back on the privacy community.





If you read my response again I never actually accused you directly of being a scam. I said you were untrustworthy which is 100% fact (anons are untrustworthy by definition). So if you're not a scam, attention to detail and professional communication is not your strongest suit.

Satoshi invented a trustless monetary system, yet here you are asking people to trust you.


PS: chained VPN > Tor
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
#31
I don't think that the DOGED dev is anonymous, fwiw.

Anyway, maybe one way to get people to use your anonymous exchange is to offer some trading pairs of coins that aren't simple Bitcoin clones. For one, it would demonstrate that you're at least technically capable of working with different APIs, and that you're not just copypastaing some other (shitty) exchanges code. More importantly, since you promote yourself as a privacy-centric exchange, you'd be able to offer (imo) the most advanced family of privacy-oriented coins, Cryptonotes, and others with privacy features such as Bitshares 2.0 and NXT (not sure if NXT has released their coinjoin release yet, but if not it's coming soon).

Built from the ground up in Django. We have lots of unique features like option GPG passwordless/usernameless accounts and GPG 2FA which is pretty neat, and also I2P-Bote integrations, I2P bote is an anonymous, end-to-end encrypted, distributed email service. Our trade API also does some pretty neat tricks.

I talked with the bytecoin and monero guys, but they dont support socks so I'm waiting on that. ATM I'm working on finishing the Trade API up (currently in public testing) and the translation framework. NTX and Bitshares will happen eventually, we are also working on integrating bitmoney, which an i2p native currency, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/releasedbitmoneyi2p-centralizedconst-solo-powunlimited-supplyinstant-tx-1241229

Main focus isn't accepting 100s of coins but building a broader range of services, we are hoping to release a localbitcoins type service in early 2016
legendary
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November 14, 2015, 12:36:22 PM
#30
I don't think that the DOGED dev is anonymous, fwiw.

Anyway, maybe one way to get people to use your anonymous exchange is to offer some trading pairs of coins that aren't simple Bitcoin clones. For one, it would demonstrate that you're at least technically capable of working with different APIs, and that you're not just copypastaing some other (shitty) exchanges code. More importantly, since you promote yourself as a privacy-centric exchange, you'd be able to offer (imo) the most advanced family of privacy-oriented coins, Cryptonotes, and others with privacy features such as Bitshares 2.0 and NXT (not sure if NXT has released their coinjoin release yet, but if not it's coming soon).
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
#29
Accusing me of running a scam has no weigh, I am committed to transparency, if you have any question feel free to PM me I would be happy to talk to you and answer any questions to the best of my abilities.

I'm sorry that you don't like how I talk, if you don't like my service. Feel free to stick to poloniex by all means. Still i think the concerns I point out are valid. Just because currently they allow deposits now it doesn't stop them from changing their ID rules or blocking tor nodes without notice like they did last time. They are operating a Finsen business, how long do you expect it will take?

They would never, what? Blocking tor exit nodes or forcing accounts associated with them to register is in the interest of the financial authorities. If you think you are anonymous using clearnet financial services, that they would never betray you, then I have nothing to sell. But, did they give notice last time? Just a thought.

Also pointing out that we have been hacked less times (0) than they have (50k USD ). We have security measures in place like ACID databases. I'm sure they do now after the fact. And yes they paid them back, they were pretty transparent about it.

Its clear that poloniex is moving to become more established and offer more mainstream services, that kind of business will inevitably turn its back on the privacy community.





ith public and verifiable owners like Poloniex (that allows you to withdraw $2000 worth of coin every 24 hours completely anonymously)

Your exchange looks like the classic long con scam. Build up reputation for a while, then disappear once you have enough coins to make it worth your while. The perfect crime.

I was interested at first but the way you attack poloniex in such a crude manner makes it pretty obvious that you're completely untrustworthy. What does "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" even mean?

I'm attacking Poleniex, so I am a scam? Isnt what they are doing going against Satoshis vision? Something about a free unregulated currency without govt control? Freedom and privacy mean no institutions, and no AML.

Its my opinion that all clearnet exchanges are bad and this idea that complying with institutions makes you more reputable just depends on where you stand. Most people dont care about privacy, but for the ones that do I am offering a solution.

Its possible that I am running a long con scam but it is also possible that I am providing a unique service to the cryptocoin community, that I care passionately about Privacy and about Freedom, and that running off with everyones money is something I am morally apposed to. But dont take my word for it, check out the exchange for youself

"vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" means that they encourage their users to use ExchangeD.I2P, and they trust me.


Financial privacy is important. Instead of complying with institutional demands that can and eventually will lead to a loss of your liberty, people should to commit to using darknet options, yes it is more risky, but the freedom is worth it


Yes, the tactics you're using to slander poloniex and scare users into depositing coins onto your 100% untrustworthy exchange make it seem like a scam. Professionals don't use crude comments like "sucking regulators dicks since..." to defame their competitors. Maybe you didn't intend that, but there it is. Furthermore, you still don't even address why anyone should trade on your nameless darknet exchange when you can already trade 100% anonymously on Poloniex, a trusted exchange, and withdraw $60,000 worth of coin per month completely anonymously.  This will be sufficient for 99.9% of crypto users, and I doubly the other 0.1% that need to withdraw more than $60,000 / month will trust some nameless exchange that can (and eventually will) go offline at your whim.

So the "devs" of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark, who are anonymous themselves, encourage their users to use ExchangeD? Who are these people and what make their 'encouragement' carry any weight whatsoever? Are they trustworthy because they cloned their own shitcoin? Pointless marketing spin.

You "caring about freedom" and being "morally opposed to running off with everyone's money" are just words on a forum. I'm sure I don't need to point out that statements like these are exactly what a scammer would say in the first place, making them utterly pointless. Personally i doubt you yourself would ever deposit coins on an exchange such as yours.. there is absolutely no reason why anyone should trust an anon such a yourself with their funds.
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November 14, 2015, 11:31:46 AM
#28



ith public and verifiable owners like Poloniex (that allows you to withdraw $2000 worth of coin every 24 hours completely anonymously)

Your exchange looks like the classic long con scam. Build up reputation for a while, then disappear once you have enough coins to make it worth your while. The perfect crime.

I was interested at first but the way you attack poloniex in such a crude manner makes it pretty obvious that you're completely untrustworthy. What does "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" even mean?

I'm attacking Poleniex, so I am a scam? Isnt what they are doing going against Satoshis vision? Something about a free unregulated currency without govt control? Freedom and privacy mean no institutions, and no AML.

Its my opinion that all clearnet exchanges are bad and this idea that complying with institutions makes you more reputable just depends on where you stand. Most people dont care about privacy, but for the ones that do I am offering a solution.

Its possible that I am running a long con scam but it is also possible that I am providing a unique service to the cryptocoin community, that I care passionately about Privacy and about Freedom, and that running off with everyones money is something I am morally apposed to. But dont take my word for it, check out the exchange for youself

"vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" means that they encourage their users to use ExchangeD.I2P, and they trust me.


Financial privacy is important. Instead of complying with institutional demands that can and eventually will lead to a loss of your liberty, people should to commit to using darknet options, yes it is more risky, but the freedom is worth it


Yes, the tactics you're using to slander poloniex and scare users into depositing coins onto your 100% untrustworthy exchange make it seem like a scam. Professionals don't use crude comments like "sucking regulators dicks since..." to defame their competitors. Maybe you didn't intend that, but there it is. Furthermore, you still don't even address why anyone should trade on your nameless darknet exchange when you can already trade 100% anonymously on Poloniex, a trusted exchange, and withdraw $60,000 worth of coin per month completely anonymously.  This will be sufficient for 99.9% of crypto users, and I doubly the other 0.1% that need to withdraw more than $60,000 / month will trust some nameless exchange that can (and eventually will) go offline at your whim.

So the "devs" of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark, who are anonymous themselves, encourage their users to use ExchangeD? Who are these people and what make their 'encouragement' carry any weight whatsoever? Are they trustworthy because they cloned their own shitcoin? Pointless marketing spin.

You "caring about freedom" and being "morally opposed to running off with everyone's money" are just words on a forum. I'm sure I don't need to point out that statements like these are exactly what a scammer would say in the first place, making them utterly pointless. Personally i doubt you yourself would ever deposit coins on an exchange such as yours.. there is absolutely no reason why anyone should trust an anon such a yourself with their funds.
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November 14, 2015, 11:06:11 AM
#27



ith public and verifiable owners like Poloniex (that allows you to withdraw $2000 worth of coin every 24 hours completely anonymously)

Your exchange looks like the classic long con scam. Build up reputation for a while, then disappear once you have enough coins to make it worth your while. The perfect crime.

I was interested at first but the way you attack poloniex in such a crude manner makes it pretty obvious that you're completely untrustworthy. What does "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" even mean?

I'm attacking Poleniex, so I am a scam? Isnt what they are doing going against Satoshis vision? Something about a free unregulated currency without govt control? Freedom and privacy mean no institutions, and no AML.

Its my opinion that all clearnet exchanges are bad and this idea that complying with institutions makes you more reputable just depends on where you stand. Most people dont care about privacy, but for the ones that do I am offering a solution.

Its possible that I am running a long con scam but it is also possible that I am providing a unique service to the cryptocoin community, that I care passionately about Privacy and about Freedom, and that running off with everyones money is something I am morally apposed to. But dont take my word for it, check out the exchange for youself

"vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" means that they encourage their users to use ExchangeD.I2P, and they trust me.


Financial privacy is important. Instead of complying with institutional demands that can and eventually will lead to a loss of your liberty, people should to commit to using darknet options, yes it is more risky, but the freedom is worth it
hero member
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November 14, 2015, 09:42:31 AM
#26



Not surprising a completely anonymous exchange is attacking the most legitimate player in the game.  Roll Eyes

Please tell me why anyone should use your 100% anonymous exchange that you could easily run off with at any time (with the losers having zero recourse) - over a legitimate regulated exchange with public and verifiable owners like Poloniex (that allows you to withdraw $2000 worth of coin every 24 hours completely anonymously)

Your exchange looks like the classic long con scam. Build up reputation for a while, then disappear once you have enough coins to make it worth your while. The perfect crime.

I was interested at first but the way you attack poloniex in such a crude manner makes it pretty obvious that you're completely untrustworthy. What does "vouched for by the devs of Anoncoin and DogecoinDark" even mean?
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