Which is your strategy on dice sites? - page 12.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

I simulated some more. The results are .csv files in a format like this:

Code:

bets placed;profit;times won;times lost;biggest streak;server seed;client seed
55;-1771515;46;9;39;6a6beb2ab658315e71e879eb28a9a4a95;WfU9WzWON6Ta2CF7a
105;-1771469;92;13;33;4faf11b2567e4021257feee8b288a0100;o7Gr1rYZ0bNhDQJdH
120;-1771454;107;13;44;d78729fe55adc96c7d77e9b848e89e7de;4mBmyuXUk2psoH2al
273;-1771322;239;34;37;c2afe8da2fe9b685776918376f3327a43;JSylASzIZhJ4wv0L3
272;-1771321;240;32;36;a388f9f713bff667815fce4355df729aa;0noDphZXIxCLQ63jn
390;-1771211;350;40;34;c5cc797a2d48f3228eebb8b587a9a42cc;j5nJo7WdXgOMbYMqR
416;-1771197;364;52;41;6a461505df51ecab1e6fd65b745498bdb;JKzEMykaNM3vWNPil
431;-1771174;387;44;38;e88fe46f3c327534116022cdd7a589f0a;WnRaX4FFK2eJNMleT
558;-1771077;484;74;46;2a290af4a764f3d59c19404c4a776303c;MEvWXhk09EPTRzfAI
844;-1770809;752;92;44;cf1eee89154c80e68b95b25c3fddd3225;lPkga2UpV4hT3IIaN
1055;-1770614;947;108;50;b605b7df84756657deb9216852bac1f7e;cZa7MZjBgBh0cyD3E
...

The neonecrox13

results: https://mega.co.nz/#!3pom2S6S!1JSMLBB8WfciIktvlfFerkadF6Fhmn-CGRaoAKpiNuQ
10.4 MB
The runs busted so fast I did >100k simulations

The faneagle

results: https://mega.co.nz/#!3pom2S6S!1JSMLBB8WfciIktvlfFerkadF6Fhmn-CGRaoAKpiNuQ
858 KB

10fold

results: https://mega.co.nz/#!35ZikZYA!DwjQq5iCnUOeywZqetkpmNjce9sdaNr94MYPB6U1nxA
821 KB
The runs did bust rarely. 10k runs usually take ~90 minutes. This one took >800m

myohmy81

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i recommend skill base game like binary option

if you repeat roll dice , you 99.9% lose

BigMac

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Quote from: leesin on February 02, 2015, 01:01:56 AM

i recommend to pre-roll every time before you place any bet. unless you know a certain pattern but even then, its still a possible loss.

Pre-rolling should not change your win chance, and there should be no "pattern" in your bets.

leonaa

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i do 90% to recover a base bet, but I only do that a few times. Any time I do this more then 4 times its to let me know I dont know enough about the game.

leesin

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#feelthebern

i recommend to pre-roll every time before you place any bet. unless you know a certain pattern but even then, its still a possible loss.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: Aemon on January 29, 2015, 04:41:59 PM

-snip-
I understand what you are saying. All I am telling you is classic Martingale is better than your strategy as far as more profit goes at a safer amount of risk. You are still using Martingale, its just a modified version of it. The more safe way to do Martingale is to use a higher win % and then a higher increase on loss, its just simple math. You are using one of the worst versions of Martingale you can use.

Make a suggestion that is botable and Ill give it a try tomorrow.

arvindr

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Quote from: Aemon on January 29, 2015, 04:41:59 PM

Quote from: shorena on January 29, 2015, 12:26:52 PM

Quote from: Aemon on January 29, 2015, 11:59:17 AM

Quote from: michinzx on January 28, 2015, 03:02:52 PM

Quote from: Aemon on January 28, 2015, 11:59:07 AM

-snip-
Seems like rather a small profit for the high chance of loss you have. I think standard Martingale would work a lot better for you

that method works better than you think it would, i used to use a even lower win %, just ensure that you can take 100 loss streaks with your bank roll and you slowly profit

Yes, but what happens if you hit 105 losses? You are broke for very little profit. I mean you have better odds if you just YOLO at 85% than what you are doing. You are essentially trying to win small amounts for a high chance of losing it all, and the more you play, the more likely you are to lose

Thats true for any gambling system. Thats usually the point to mitigate the loses until you no longer can and bust. You can only push the risk back to high losing streaks. Its the same for martingale. I had many martingale streaks (16 and more loses in a row) in the past, thus I dont like playing that any more.

With the "r3dsnow" a simulation of 31000 runs with 1 million rolls max (less if you bust ofc) resulted in 7345 profitable runs. The lowest positive profit beeing 120 satoshi (lol) the highest 127784842 Satoshi (1,27 BTC), the average (over all runs) 7619340 Satoshi and the median (over all runs) beeing -1999906.

Its only a simulation though and its not perfect yet. I currently use random numbers instead of the usual shaX(server_seed-client_seed-nounce).

On the server it is working out for me so far, but ofc you are correct this will one day bust.

Edit: (stats update, ~900 bets made since the last update)

Code:

Bets:     159810
Wins:      40064
Losses:   119746
Wagered:  0.15309492
Profit:   0.00714458

I understand what you are saying. All I am telling you is classic Martingale is better than your strategy as far as more profit goes at a safer amount of risk. You are still using Martingale, its just a modified version of it. The more safe way to do Martingale is to use a higher win % and then a higher increase on loss, its just simple math. You are using one of the worst versions of Martingale you can use.

For a short run of profits , you could also try the martingale variation of betting x10.
Where you make a few dust bets and then start doubling after 5 losses at big value bets.

Aemon

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Quote from: shorena on January 29, 2015, 12:26:52 PM

Quote from: Aemon on January 29, 2015, 11:59:17 AM

Quote from: michinzx on January 28, 2015, 03:02:52 PM

Quote from: Aemon on January 28, 2015, 11:59:07 AM

-snip-
Seems like rather a small profit for the high chance of loss you have. I think standard Martingale would work a lot better for you

that method works better than you think it would, i used to use a even lower win %, just ensure that you can take 100 loss streaks with your bank roll and you slowly profit

Yes, but what happens if you hit 105 losses? You are broke for very little profit. I mean you have better odds if you just YOLO at 85% than what you are doing. You are essentially trying to win small amounts for a high chance of losing it all, and the more you play, the more likely you are to lose

Thats true for any gambling system. Thats usually the point to mitigate the loses until you no longer can and bust. You can only push the risk back to high losing streaks. Its the same for martingale. I had many martingale streaks (16 and more loses in a row) in the past, thus I dont like playing that any more.

With the "r3dsnow" a simulation of 31000 runs with 1 million rolls max (less if you bust ofc) resulted in 7345 profitable runs. The lowest positive profit beeing 120 satoshi (lol) the highest 127784842 Satoshi (1,27 BTC), the average (over all runs) 7619340 Satoshi and the median (over all runs) beeing -1999906.

Its only a simulation though and its not perfect yet. I currently use random numbers instead of the usual shaX(server_seed-client_seed-nounce).

On the server it is working out for me so far, but ofc you are correct this will one day bust.

Edit: (stats update, ~900 bets made since the last update)

Code:

Bets:     159810
Wins:      40064
Losses:   119746
Wagered:  0.15309492
Profit:   0.00714458

I understand what you are saying. All I am telling you is classic Martingale is better than your strategy as far as more profit goes at a safer amount of risk. You are still using Martingale, its just a modified version of it. The more safe way to do Martingale is to use a higher win % and then a higher increase on loss, its just simple math. You are using one of the worst versions of Martingale you can use.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: Aemon on January 29, 2015, 11:59:17 AM

Quote from: michinzx on January 28, 2015, 03:02:52 PM

Quote from: Aemon on January 28, 2015, 11:59:07 AM

-snip-
Seems like rather a small profit for the high chance of loss you have. I think standard Martingale would work a lot better for you

that method works better than you think it would, i used to use a even lower win %, just ensure that you can take 100 loss streaks with your bank roll and you slowly profit

Yes, but what happens if you hit 105 losses? You are broke for very little profit. I mean you have better odds if you just YOLO at 85% than what you are doing. You are essentially trying to win small amounts for a high chance of losing it all, and the more you play, the more likely you are to lose

Thats true for any gambling system. Thats usually the point to mitigate the loses until you no longer can and bust. You can only push the risk back to high losing streaks. Its the same for martingale. I had many martingale streaks (16 and more loses in a row) in the past, thus I dont like playing that any more.

With the "r3dsnow" a simulation of 31000 runs with 1 million rolls max (less if you bust ofc) resulted in 7345 profitable runs. The lowest positive profit beeing 120 satoshi (lol) the highest 127784842 Satoshi (1,27 BTC), the average (over all runs) 7619340 Satoshi and the median (over all runs) beeing -1999906.

Its only a simulation though and its not perfect yet. I currently use random numbers instead of the usual shaX(server_seed-client_seed-nounce).

On the server it is working out for me so far, but ofc you are correct this will one day bust.

Edit: (stats update, ~900 bets made since the last update)

Code:

Bets:     159810
Wins:      40064
Losses:   119746
Wagered:  0.15309492
Profit:   0.00714458

Aemon

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Quote from: michinzx on January 28, 2015, 03:02:52 PM

Quote from: Aemon on January 28, 2015, 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: shorena on January 28, 2015, 05:05:03 AM

I currently play the "r3dsnow" (because I copied it from r3dsnow) and yes I am aware that this will some day cause me to lose it all, esp. if I keep playing on "no delay".

Base bet: 6 Satoshi
Chance to win: 15.81%
Multiplier: 6.262
increase on loss: +22.71%
increase on win: -
bankroll: 0.03

stats currently (inlcude other systems):

Code:

Bets:     158915
Wins:     39941
Losses:   118974
Wagered:  0.15254514
Profit:   0.00701806

Seems like rather a small profit for the high chance of loss you have. I think standard Martingale would work a lot better for you

that method works better than you think it would, i used to use a even lower win %, just ensure that you can take 100 loss streaks with your bank roll and you slowly profit

Yes, but what happens if you hit 105 losses? You are broke for very little profit. I mean you have better odds if you just YOLO at 85% than what you are doing. You are essentially trying to win small amounts for a high chance of losing it all, and the more you play, the more likely you are to lose

michinzx

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Quote from: Aemon on January 28, 2015, 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: shorena on January 28, 2015, 05:05:03 AM

I currently play the "r3dsnow" (because I copied it from r3dsnow) and yes I am aware that this will some day cause me to lose it all, esp. if I keep playing on "no delay".

Base bet: 6 Satoshi
Chance to win: 15.81%
Multiplier: 6.262
increase on loss: +22.71%
increase on win: -
bankroll: 0.03

stats currently (inlcude other systems):

Code:

Bets:     158915
Wins:     39941
Losses:   118974
Wagered:  0.15254514
Profit:   0.00701806

Seems like rather a small profit for the high chance of loss you have. I think standard Martingale would work a lot better for you

that method works better than you think it would, i used to use a even lower win %, just ensure that you can take 100 loss streaks with your bank roll and you slowly profit

leblanc

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i really doubt that the guys in a positive balance.. i never hear anyone gaining so much btc off that, and if so then i think everyone would be promoting it.

Aemon

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Quote from: kennenman on January 28, 2015, 12:00:52 PM

Quote from: fox19891989 on January 27, 2015, 10:56:59 PM

Quote from: darkmind on December 13, 2014, 08:26:33 PM

my strategy in dice is simple, I call it reverse martingale system. Basically I will double my bets every time I win and decreasing it every round I lose.

Hi, dude, it is interesting, I guess you win a lot, any details about this strategy? Thanks.

since your strategy works, and dice is simple to you care to screen cap your winnings?

I would love to see the pictures of your winnings. This strategy works when you win more than you lose, but sine their is a house edge everywhere you go, I can't see how you would be winning more than you lose. This would make you go broke really quick.

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Quote from: fox19891989 on January 27, 2015, 10:56:59 PM

Quote from: darkmind on December 13, 2014, 08:26:33 PM

my strategy in dice is simple, I call it reverse martingale system. Basically I will double my bets every time I win and decreasing it every round I lose.

Hi, dude, it is interesting, I guess you win a lot, any details about this strategy? Thanks.

since your strategy works, and dice is simple to you care to screen cap your winnings?

Aemon

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Quote from: shorena on January 28, 2015, 05:05:03 AM

I currently play the "r3dsnow" (because I copied it from r3dsnow) and yes I am aware that this will some day cause me to lose it all, esp. if I keep playing on "no delay".

Base bet: 6 Satoshi
Chance to win: 15.81%
Multiplier: 6.262
increase on loss: +22.71%
increase on win: -
bankroll: 0.03

stats currently (inlcude other systems):

Code:

Bets:     158915
Wins:     39941
Losses:   118974
Wagered:  0.15254514
Profit:   0.00701806

Seems like rather a small profit for the high chance of loss you have. I think standard Martingale would work a lot better for you

Sarahiko

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If your lucky to win some always make a withdrawal every time you hit big to compensate the amount you deposited if your planning to play a long run don`t ever use martingale that`s 99% fail

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

I currently play the "r3dsnow" (because I copied it from r3dsnow) and yes I am aware that this will some day cause me to lose it all, esp. if I keep playing on "no delay".

Base bet: 6 Satoshi
Chance to win: 15.81%
Multiplier: 6.262
increase on loss: +22.71%
increase on win: -
bankroll: 0.03

stats currently (inlcude other systems):

Code:

Bets:     158915
Wins:     39941
Losses:   118974
Wagered:  0.15254514
Profit:   0.00701806

Omikifuse

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Quote from: Danydee on January 17, 2015, 09:56:41 PM

Quote from: kotwica666 on January 15, 2015, 10:48:01 PM

Quote from: feedo on January 15, 2015, 10:23:43 PM

the best system ever is .......... Mr Luck Grin

Or Mr Faucet Grin

Or Mr (you are lucky) Wink

or mr faucet + mr 9900x + mr bot

fox19891989

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Quote from: darkmind on December 13, 2014, 08:26:33 PM

my strategy in dice is simple, I call it reverse martingale system. Basically I will double my bets every time I win and decreasing it every round I lose.

Hi, dude, it is interesting, I guess you win a lot, any details about this strategy? Thanks.

fox19891989

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Quote from: darkmind on December 13, 2014, 08:26:33 PM

my strategy in dice is simple, I call it reverse martingale system. Basically I will double my bets every time I win and decreasing it every round I lose.

Hi, dude, it is interesting, I guess you win a lot, any details about this strategy? Thanks.

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