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Topic: Which of these 2 laptops would you pick ? - page 2. (Read 3937 times)

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I think the I would pick Toshiba, because it has better cpu speeds.
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I'm using Lenovo, I have no problem with it.
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Toshiba would be my easy choice, powerful cpu and japanese made.
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J'ai Envie De Toi
I would take Toshiba it has a better CPU and clock speed Smiley
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Personally, I would always stick with apple. If your a microsoft person, it takes awhile to get a hang of it but in the end, it is much smoother.
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I'll stick with Apple too. Bought a Macbook recently and never regret it.

Yes. I'm stuck on an old Windows 7 machine right now. The system itself is not that bad, but it's soo slow... I miss my MacBook.
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Personally, I would always stick with apple. If your a microsoft person, it takes awhile to get a hang of it but in the end, it is much smoother.
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I'll stick with Apple too. Bought a Macbook recently and never regret it.
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I would go for alienware which is not listed xD

Overpriced brand, no thank you.

if you are a  gamer then buy a gaming desktop Smiley best way .. Smiley
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I would go for alienware which is not listed xD

Overpriced brand, no thank you.
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I would go for alienware which is not listed xD
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Both are good laptop, I would go with the cheaper one..
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Like I said, SSDs fragment as well, but they don't care since they have no physical access time. What slows down an HDD? The read/write head has to wait until the desired place on the disk comes by. SSDs just access the data, nothing has to move! The hard disk is the bottleneck of practically all computers nowadays. It's the single thing that slows a machine down. Significantly. My SSD laptop just suffered a mainboard failure and I'm now stuck on a regular machine for the time being, and suddenly I notice how I start scream when something takes 10 seconds to open. Totally forgot about that crap.
Yet many still don't realize just how big the difference is. You lose so much time when booting a computer, I've actually stopped booting and don't restart for weeks. While my laptop (even after loading it with a ton of programs on start-up, which are needed) needs 20 seconds to boot completely.

Exactly. And people don't get the 'it's a lot faster' thing. They're thinking along the lines of 'yeah it's a bit faster' or something. An SSD is the single item that makes your computer 10 times as fast. If not more. You'll NEVER want to go back. And the best thing: The computer stays that fast.
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Like I said, SSDs fragment as well, but they don't care since they have no physical access time. What slows down an HDD? The read/write head has to wait until the desired place on the disk comes by. SSDs just access the data, nothing has to move! The hard disk is the bottleneck of practically all computers nowadays. It's the single thing that slows a machine down. Significantly. My SSD laptop just suffered a mainboard failure and I'm now stuck on a regular machine for the time being, and suddenly I notice how I start scream when something takes 10 seconds to open. Totally forgot about that crap.
Yet many still don't realize just how big the difference is. You lose so much time when booting a computer, I've actually stopped booting and don't restart for weeks. While my laptop (even after loading it with a ton of programs on start-up, which are needed) needs 20 seconds to boot completely.
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Both are good models i have use them both and i like them both but i choose Lenovo only for the brand.
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I prefer Toshiba.
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I prefer lenova just because of the brand.
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Well during the week I mostly live with my girlfriend in her appartment since it's only 5 minutes of the hospital where i have my internship , so I need a pc I can move around

Ah.  Sorry if I missed this, but what will you do on the computer?  Will it just be for casual browsing on the internet, or hardcore gaming, or what?  If it's just casual browsing, you actually don't need that good of a computer.  But like I said, the Toshiba IMO would be better because of its processing speed.
Need a trustworthy laptop for my thesis (mine right now just shuts down itself randomly and gets overheated fast) in the first place, and also need multiple heavy programs to run properly and not crash, my €400 laptop didn't succeed at this so wanted to push the price of the next one a bit. I expect this one to do multiple (heavy) tasks without losing on me. Quadcore was a superior choice over dualcore for that reason (or at least it was in the point of view of this layman Smiley )

Make sure you get an SSD. You don't want anything but an SSD for a hard disk. Believe me, there's nothing better than having an SSD. It's not a lot faster, it's a whole universe faster.
Also, people I know had bad experiences with Toshiba. I'd stick with Lenovo if I were you!
Does SSD only improve the access speed of programs (so i mean solely the speed of starting up a program) or does it improve the speed of a program afterwards aswell

Well, programs do need to access additional data form time to time so there's that. But the thing is, disks get fragmented over time, you can't do anything about that, not even defragment them will alleviate that completely. SSDs don't care, because they have no physical access time. They stay as fast as they ever were. And yeah, you can improve booting up your machine from 2-3 minutes to about 15 seconds. Definitely. They're the best.
I had to pick between HDD and SSHD (SSD is too expensive for me at this point), doesn't SSHD have same issues with fragmentation (since all data is saved on HDD with this SSHD) ? Booting up time is no real issue for me, neither is gaining a few seconds when starting up a program. To me it's important programs work efficiently without having to max the CPU capabilities anymore.
If HDD really starts to bother me I can always upgrade to SSD in the future when it'll be cheaper Smiley but am expecting to be fine with the HDD by now. Thanks for the additional info


Like I said, SSDs fragment as well, but they don't care since they have no physical access time. What slows down an HDD? The read/write head has to wait until the desired place on the disk comes by. SSDs just access the data, nothing has to move! The hard disk is the bottleneck of practically all computers nowadays. It's the single thing that slows a machine down. Significantly. My SSD laptop just suffered a mainboard failure and I'm now stuck on a regular machine for the time being, and suddenly I notice how I start scream when something takes 10 seconds to open. Totally forgot about that crap.
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Well during the week I mostly live with my girlfriend in her appartment since it's only 5 minutes of the hospital where i have my internship , so I need a pc I can move around

Ah.  Sorry if I missed this, but what will you do on the computer?  Will it just be for casual browsing on the internet, or hardcore gaming, or what?  If it's just casual browsing, you actually don't need that good of a computer.  But like I said, the Toshiba IMO would be better because of its processing speed.
Need a trustworthy laptop for my thesis (mine right now just shuts down itself randomly and gets overheated fast) in the first place, and also need multiple heavy programs to run properly and not crash, my €400 laptop didn't succeed at this so wanted to push the price of the next one a bit. I expect this one to do multiple (heavy) tasks without losing on me. Quadcore was a superior choice over dualcore for that reason (or at least it was in the point of view of this layman Smiley )

Make sure you get an SSD. You don't want anything but an SSD for a hard disk. Believe me, there's nothing better than having an SSD. It's not a lot faster, it's a whole universe faster.
Also, people I know had bad experiences with Toshiba. I'd stick with Lenovo if I were you!
Does SSD only improve the access speed of programs (so i mean solely the speed of starting up a program) or does it improve the speed of a program afterwards aswell

Well, programs do need to access additional data form time to time so there's that. But the thing is, disks get fragmented over time, you can't do anything about that, not even defragment them will alleviate that completely. SSDs don't care, because they have no physical access time. They stay as fast as they ever were. And yeah, you can improve booting up your machine from 2-3 minutes to about 15 seconds. Definitely. They're the best.
I had to pick between HDD and SSHD (SSD is too expensive for me at this point), doesn't SSHD have same issues with fragmentation (since all data is saved on HDD with this SSHD) ? Booting up time is no real issue for me, neither is gaining a few seconds when starting up a program. To me it's important programs work efficiently without having to max the CPU capabilities anymore.
If HDD really starts to bother me I can always upgrade to SSD in the future when it'll be cheaper Smiley but am expecting to be fine with the HDD by now. Thanks for the additional info
legendary
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Lenovo wins hands down. Remember to uninstall all the crapware they include.
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I would pick the least powerful one, or whichever produces less power.
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Make sure you get an SSD. You don't want anything but an SSD for a hard disk. Believe me, there's nothing better than having an SSD. It's not a lot faster, it's a whole universe faster.
Also, people I know had bad experiences with Toshiba. I'd stick with Lenovo if I were you!
Does SSD only improve the access speed of programs (so i mean solely the speed of starting up a program) or does it improve the speed of a program afterwards aswell

Well, programs do need to access additional data form time to time so there's that. But the thing is, disks get fragmented over time, you can't do anything about that, not even defragment them will alleviate that completely. SSDs don't care, because they have no physical access time. They stay as fast as they ever were. And yeah, you can improve booting up your machine from 2-3 minutes to about 15 seconds. Definitely. They're the best.
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