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Topic: Which one to buy? Stocks Houses Gold or Bitcoin or Bonds? - page 2. (Read 5235 times)

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The answer will depend on your situation, if you do not own a house, and you feel that you can own one, while investing, i suggest to do so, however make sure that it will benefit you, it should not be taking a lot of money from you, be sure you can afford it, if not, might as well rent. If you think you can handle an investment with a high volatility and are sure that you create a huge profit,  invest in bitcoin, if you do not trust bitcoin, invest on stocks, that is, if you can handle the volatility as well and you trust the companies you are going to buy, but if you are a very conservative person, and just want your money to grow without loosing much of yout capital, invest in bonds. As an investor, you do not need to ask a lot of people in their opinion, since there are some whi can handle a great loss and some who don't, you need first to ask yourself what kind of an investor are you, if you do not understand it yet, better read books, and test yourself.
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Anyone want to post an updated comparison pic here?
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If you have a lot of bitcoin in your wallet for sure you will earn a lot of profit in the future. So if you have extra money in your pocket its better if you buy bitcoin now. Dont choose other, bitcoin gives you opportunity to earn big and fast. Other bsusiness or investment needd more time or few years before you earn . Bitcoin as of now is indemand investment of all people who are willing to earn money.

Interesting points. This is also early adoption phase as there's approximately <1% world population engaging in Bitcoin. Bitcoin will see higher highs every 5 years, period.
True bitcoin is growing this much with such a low amount of the people getting into bitcoin, once the rest of the population follows there is no limit to the price bitcoin is going to reach and this is proven by the amazing year that has been 2017 for bitcoin and altcoins, and it seems bitcoin still has the strength to go up in value once more before the end of the year.
copper member
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I greatly recommend bitcoin. with a very rapid price movement, we can take great advantage of margin buying and selling results.
compared to gold and bonds takes longer than bitcoin.
This is why bitcoin is unique and have got more attention and popularity, because of its volatility in price there is a huge scope of trading here to earn a good profit through your investment. Gold has a stable price and price growth is not rapid like bitcoin, also the profit percentage in gold is lower than bitcoin, so i will prefer bitcoin to buy as an investment instead of gold and bonds.
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Bitcoin has out perform every other illiquid assets and it take few years to get to were it is today. I have been trading forex and commodities and I have never get good return the way I got from bitcoin. I have seen that buying bitcoin at any time now is good as in years to come ,were we are today will be like a child's play compare to were we would be in 5 to 10 years to come. We cannot really said this in Stock and other assets.
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Above screenshot shows post-Christmas 2013 thru March 31, 2017:

Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


(Note: Bitcoin performance suppressed due to post insane Chinese-run in late-2013)

[EDIT: Updated chart below thru to early August BTC roughly 3200usd back then):


You answered your own question with that graph, in the first place is bitcoin, the stock market and real estate are very close so I will prefer to buy real estate over stocks, so real estate will be in second place for me, then gold, gold is a great store of value and it can skyrocket depending on the circumstances, then stocks, and even if bonds are the last option I will never buy bonds I do not believe in the ability of the government to pay me back.
sr. member
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I do not want to invest my whole investment in one thing. I usually set the money to invest. I split this money into 4 or 5 pieces. Stocks Houses Gold and Bitcoin and Bonds and Altcoin.
This is very good decision never been spend in just one thing you need to manage things for your secure future and work for more options because one investment can bring you on footpath currently investing in bitcoin is good but better do investment in some other options also like Gold and Bonds houses can implement you some taxes
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Above screenshot shows post-Christmas 2013 thru March 31, 2017:

Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


(Note: Bitcoin performance suppressed due to post insane Chinese-run in late-2013)

[EDIT: Updated chart below thru to early August BTC roughly 3200usd back then):



Given the facts, I think it really boils down to your preferences either for short-term or long-term investments. Do remember that each type of investments has their own set of risks to consider. For example, bonds may be the most secured type of investment due to its nature being on the bank but profit wise, it might be longer.
On the other hand, bitcoin may yield you the highest profit but the security of payment is not secured compared to the others.
Personally, I would half my investments into two, like one for bonds and the other for bitcoins for safety purposes but if you plan for long-term then bitcoin is the way to go.
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As an investor, i want to have all of those invrestments, since there is a big probability that we could earn from them, however i would take into consideration of prioritizing them, for me, k would prioritize bitcoin, as of now, since it still hasn't reached 100k usd, it still is considered cheap, and i will use, some of gains in bitcoin into buying stocks and bonds, since they can be considered a short term investment, and with the gains.i'll be making, i'll buy more bitcoins and in time, buy gold, however, for a house, i would suggest to use another method, you can use your own money or loan from a bank, but if you don't want to invest in a house yet, i wouod suggest this brakdown, 50% for bitcoin, 30 % stocks/bonds/ gold, 10% for savings and 10% for tithes, sine this method has been effective with me, if you don't agree you're still free to make your own, however i much prefer divide and conquer.
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Bitcoin :open immutable decentralized global fair
anyone else want to put up an updated chart?
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Above screenshot shows post-Christmas 2013 thru March 31, 2017:

Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


(Note: Bitcoin performance suppressed due to post insane Chinese-run in late-2013)

[EDIT: Updated chart below thru to early August BTC roughly 3200usd back then):



If I have a lot of money and are given the option to vote, I will confidently choose to invest my money for bitcoin, I will buy as much bitcoin as many predict that bitcoin prices will rise again later this year. even if I have to wait until 2018, I will do so. the reason is because bitcoin price will continue increase.This is bitcoin, long term investment.
hero member
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I do not want to invest my whole investment in one thing. I usually set the money to invest. I split this money into 4 or 5 pieces. Stocks Houses Gold and Bitcoin and Bonds and Altcoin.
sr. member
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Bitcoin :open immutable decentralized global fair
If you have a lot of bitcoin in your wallet for sure you will earn a lot of profit in the future. So if you have extra money in your pocket its better if you buy bitcoin now. Dont choose other, bitcoin gives you opportunity to earn big and fast. Other bsusiness or investment needd more time or few years before you earn . Bitcoin as of now is indemand investment of all people who are willing to earn money.

Interesting points. This is also early adoption phase as there's approximately <1% world population engaging in Bitcoin. Bitcoin will see higher highs every 5 years, period.
sr. member
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If you have a lot of bitcoin in your wallet for sure you will earn a lot of profit in the future. So if you have extra money in your pocket its better if you buy bitcoin now. Dont choose other, bitcoin gives you opportunity to earn big and fast. Other bsusiness or investment needd more time or few years before you earn . Bitcoin as of now is indemand investment of all people who are willing to earn money.
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In the meantime, i still need bitcoin as an income farm. Because, i am not including people who prosper economically. However, if home or stock intends to be a diversified investment destination. That's a good plan.
legendary
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Bitcoin is an obvious choice as the global fiat system has been broken. Governments, Central Banks, Spy agencies along with media have for years tried their hardest to shutdown bitcoin by regulating it, by either legalizing it or by making it illegal, by banning exchanges, by putting out negative statements, and then trying to (ironically) attach bad uses of it (where in truth the fiat system funds all the criminal-activity drugs and bombs in the world). All these entities will continue doing this for years to come and everyone will see that the impact on Bitcoin was minimal at best. No better escape from broken fiat than Bitcoin.

If you think it thoroughly, maybe there are something that you need to be consider, for a short term it really gives a lot of profit, a very big profit that no other investment ever reach in a short time, but crypto currency is very volatile investment, and there are still many rejection, gold is the best investment for a very long time, while real estate need to have maintenance and big capital to start, you can't buy partly or fraction of the house, bonds or stocks is too much risk especially when you are not really active, I still stick with Bitcoin and alt coins for short term and hold for a very long term investment
legendary
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Another thing to think about, as I have recently. If the impact of all major currencies that have been QE'd over the last decade is that inflation is starting to bleed into and be felt in the world economies.

That would mean that virtually ALL other equities/assets, even if they are experiencing bubble valuations in the short term, will continue to melt up over the long term unless some sort of global crisis brings their fiat value down like a house of cards. And that may never happen, if the Powers That Be in control of the world financial markets continue to have controlled demolitions and keep the markets buoyed and the fiat printing machines going. We may see a few corrections here and there along the way, but the insiders who know rising inflation is the real enemy will keep BTFD and things will continue onward and upward in the markets.

In other words, perhaps within the next decade it's not equities, commodities, and assets (including Bitcoin) so much rising in value as it is the local currencies falling in purchasing power?

Take a look at Venezuela's 5 year stock market chart:
https://tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/stock-market
sr. member
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Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


Everything above except bonds. Why? Bonds typically have a high risk/reward ratio almost equivalent to equities, yet the potential rewards are really low. In the event of a company going bankrupt,  bondholders do indeed have higher priority than stockholders in getting something back, but this does not really matter if shit hits the fan and all the company's assets are wiped out. Further more, bonds and stocks have a really high correlation historically.

That is a very interesting comment!
Disregard the "safety" and diversifying correlation aspects of Bonds?

I mean one could say bonds would still be crucial for efficient portfolio construction...
Maybe something like:
14% allocated to Bitcoin
1% allocated to altcoin
38% allocated to Bonds  (including ST Commercial Paper)
30% Stocks
10% Real Estate
7% Gold/Precious Metals
 
sr. member
Activity: 378
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Bitcoin :open immutable decentralized global fair
Bitcoin is an obvious choice as the global fiat system has been broken. Governments, Central Banks, Spy agencies along with media have for years tried their hardest to shutdown bitcoin by regulating it, by either legalizing it or by making it illegal, by banning exchanges, by putting out negative statements, and then trying to (ironically) attach bad uses of it (where in truth the fiat system funds all the criminal-activity drugs and bombs in the world). All these entities will continue doing this for years to come and everyone will see that the impact on Bitcoin was minimal at best. No better escape from broken fiat than Bitcoin.
sr. member
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Bitcoin is the right pick. Whether the price of bitcoin increases or decreases never think about it, just invest into it. In my thinking only the user who have trusted and invested into it has profited big. The earlier we invest into bitcoin the biggest will be the profit we make with respect to time.

It's more than just invest:
1) Must educate
2) and be engaged against attacks


For example, here is a PSA I would give for a small example of an attack on Bitcoin;
PSA: Beware of S2xGarzik-Coin hardfork (and similar failures ie Garzikcoin aka BIP 100, Bitcoin Unlimited)
These attacks of using "community" urgency have been relentless since 2015:



From Chainalysis now Skry now Bloq now Segwit2x (Jeff Garzik):

    Founded in 2014, Chainalysis is the leading provider of Anti-Money Laundering software for Bitcoin. With offices in New York and Copenhagen, we work with global financial institutions, like Barclays and Bitcoin exchanges to enable every stakeholder to assess risk in this new economy.
credit: baronofbitcoin

Opens door for AML, easy identification, etc. Things so traditional authorities identify you, classify you, and shut you down, FREEZE YOUR ASSETS, lock you up.  Just because they don't like you for not supporting the traditional Bank Swift network or a Bankchain.

Bitcoin's consensus system and natural economic incentives PROTECT the real bitcoin.

Nothing bad happened after the BCC split, in fact the price increased and we even got free coins.

So I guess there will be nothing bad in a SegWit2x fork, and we will have more free coins to hold.

There certainly will be if the present percentage of miners pushes it through. Corecoin would have to change PoW to stand a chance of being usable. It would slow to a crawl if it lost that much mining power.

Bitfury is already having second thoughts about the New York Agreement. You will see the first mining camps start defecting from the agreement after segwit locks in.

In any case, it's irrelevant. Whales will dump on GarzikCoin, killing the price and thus forcing them to go back to mining the legacy chain. GarzikCoin doesn't stand a chance and will become another dumb altcoin, and everyone involved will be forever hated because they will be responsible of crashing the price in the middle of an all time high for no reason other than rushing a hardfork for an unnecessary blocksize increase while putting Jeff Garzik, someone that works in a blockchain spying tool, in charge.


Repeated History: Reading references (emphasis mine);
http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/29/the-economics-of-sinking-garzikcoin-aka-bip-100/
Adam T. says:   
August 30, 2015 at 8:49 AM   

“pre-emptive strike” — best characterization I’ve seen yet to describe the odd feeling of urgency from certain parties.
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    Pete Dushenski says:   
    August 30, 2015 at 10:11 AM   

    Odd indeed. Almost like these overgrown children seriously imagine that Bitcoin didn’t reach escape velocity 2.5 years ago and that they can rewrite history if only they obtain enough “consensus” on social media. Must suck to think that’s how the world works.




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