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Topic: Which one to buy? Stocks Houses Gold or Bitcoin or Bonds? - page 3. (Read 5235 times)

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Bitcoin is the right pick. Whether the price of bitcoin increases or decreases never think about it, just invest into it. In my thinking only the user who have trusted and invested into it has profited big. The earlier we invest into bitcoin the biggest will be the profit we make with respect to time.
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Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


Everything above except bonds. Why? Bonds typically have a high risk/reward ratio almost equivalent to equities, yet the potential rewards are really low. In the event of a company going bankrupt,  bondholders do indeed have higher priority than stockholders in getting something back, but this does not really matter if shit hits the fan and all the company's assets are wiped out. Further more, bonds and stocks have a really high correlation historically.
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Another update (though this chart shows old stale bitcoin price of 2800 (vs 3200 trading level today)):



How should we invest?
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UPDATED CHART:



BTC vs S&P US Stocks vs Gold vs US Bonds


,,,,which to buy & hold?
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Nothing can beat bitcoin performance this year, as the chart mention the risng was faster than anything in ths world, so with no hesitation I will say bitcoin, the main point of investment is making profit, so we need to choose something that can make the best profit
Agreed, nothing could beat the performance of bitcoin. A comparison will help one understand which is the best, because I too believe in around the same time period of around 9 years property too could have not given such a growth so I too prefer it to be the best of all.
But it seems to me that I still need to buy Both then and the other And the third. If all your finances are divided into 3 parts, you meet yourself from some problems at least 1 investment.
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Nothing can beat bitcoin performance this year, as the chart mention the risng was faster than anything in ths world, so with no hesitation I will say bitcoin, the main point of investment is making profit, so we need to choose something that can make the best profit
Agreed, nothing could beat the performance of bitcoin. A comparison will help one understand which is the best, because I too believe in around the same time period of around 9 years property too could have not given such a growth so I too prefer it to be the best of all.
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Nothing can beat bitcoin performance this year, as the chart mention the risng was faster than anything in ths world, so with no hesitation I will say bitcoin, the main point of investment is making profit, so we need to choose something that can make the best profit
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Gold will Not make you any significant profit, however it will protect you against the devaluation of paper cash and therfore allow you to retain value you already had....

To gain a larger stack in a reasonable time frame, use crypto or the stock market or both

Move the wealth into gold for safekeeping after you make it
Gold alone is Historically a bad investment but a good store of value although people who bought it for $1800 in 2011 are still deeply in the red and might still take several years to break even never mind profit...



Isn't the optimal solution be finding the historical efficient frontier using these different asset classes and then find an ideal allocation % to apply to each of the types of assets?

There's a free tool available to do just this. VERY POWERFUL;
google backtest for the portfolio visualizer website

And explore, use the tools around there.
legendary
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Gold will Not make you any significant profit, however it will protect you against the devaluation of paper cash and therfore allow you to retain value you already had....

To gain a larger stack in a reasonable time frame, use crypto or the stock market or both

Move the wealth into gold for safekeeping after you make it
Gold alone is Historically a bad investment but a good store of value although people who bought it for $1800 in 2011 are still deeply in the red and might still take several years to break even never mind profit...

legendary
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A couple of BTC (20-100) is a good investment. But never put all eggs in one basket (BTC).
Diversity is key.

I traded some BTC against physical gold to lock-in some profits and rebalance my portfolio after the recent price rise.
Don't diversify too much. Focus on Bitcoin, there will be another global economic crisis, probably withing next 5 years.
Global economy hasn't been fixed at all, managers and banks never learned their lesson after 2008 crisis.
Soon bonds, stocks and fiat money could be totally worthless - only Bitcoin, a system which is not a part of official market will survive.

What made you think bonds, stocks and fiat money will be totally worthless?  Honestly there is more possibility that bitcoin will be the first one to be worthless once it does not solve its scalability issue.  But of course being bitcoin enthusiast, i will choose Bitcoin because of its uptrend price.  Hoping scalability issue fixed and political drama between two camps fades.
Well everyone stepping into a business is for to earn not to lose all what you have but, you also cannot deny the factor of risk with every investment that you make. Risk is always there with the investment, no investment in the world is 100% safe. Keeping this rule in mind you need to study things if you are just a dump person and cannot determine or forecast the future of any business after studying it. You just need to do a SWOT analysis and you fill find the answer by yourself.  
I don’t agree the SWOT analysis can be done by anyone else; it can only be done by that business entity by itself. How would you know the Strength, Weakness, opportunities and threat of any business?

The SWOT may not perfect because of such elements that are known only by the organization personnel. I agree to the study and research about the business and then analyze the best for investment, but this will not be SWOT it will be critical analysis which can be really helpful.
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And gold? Bitcoin is like digital gold, it's gold v2.0 because it is more portable, more divisible. Bitcoin has better potential as well.

Gold is a security, bitcoin is an investment.
Holding both is the way to go.

If I have 100%, the first I buy is 50% gold. Shares or the remaining 30% bond I bought bitcoin. Gold provides long-term benefits, savings for my son someday.
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And gold? Bitcoin is like digital gold, it's gold v2.0 because it is more portable, more divisible. Bitcoin has better potential as well.

Gold is a security, bitcoin is an investment.
Holding both is the way to go.
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I am a fan of diversified plan. But if I had to choose one, I will go with bitcoin. I think housing market is a bubble ready to burst. Gold is pretty but of no use to me and stock market needs experience. Moreover, the brightest future is of bitcoin. Bitcoin to go.
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Above screenshot shows post-Christmas 2013 thru March 31, 2017:

Which one to buy??

Breakdown of performance for that period (in USD terms):
Bitcoin/USD: +80%
S&P 500 Stocks: +30%
Real Estate (REITs): +26%
Gold: +3%
Bonds: +1%


(Note: Bitcoin performance suppressed due to post insane Chinese-run in late-2013)

definitely bitcoins for the long term.

I don't trust houses because they are in a bubble state everywhere across the world right now, and there is really nobody actually living in these investment houses. All they are bought for is holding value or renting out, the buyer is rarely the actual people living there.

And gold? Bitcoin is like digital gold, it's gold v2.0 because it is more portable, more divisible. Bitcoin has better potential as well.

Bonds? Way too small of a return on your investment.
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If I have all the money to invest, I would definitely spread it across investment instruments that have different risk levels. I would even start a few businesses or go into franchising or  just be an angel investor. But bitcoin seems to be one of the highest yielding investments right now, especially if you were able to buy even by September last year when the price was idled at $600.
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For me, Bitcoin is the best, whatever people say about bitcoin. Because i have been done stocks, Forex trading and also gold. But i realize bitcoin is a best way. Because you could start investment with bitcoin in a less capital and could make money from it in a high level. And the best thing about bitcoin, it is more easy to earn than others investments.  
Yes, the charming characteristics of the bitcoin is that you don’t need a huge capital to invest. You can start with a few hundred dollars while can enjoy the crunch of a high return and even the charm is enhanced when it adds additional earnings to your capital. For me like many others it is a most suitable investment, where the net worth of my capital increases time to time and I also make enough from it to drive my life well. 
Well you can give first preference to the bitcoin as it's the one that provides an assured profiting based on the time difference from  buying​. One who can afford few number of bitcoin can easily make a good earning periodically based on the price increase just keeping the one we bought within the wallet which is not possible with other such methods.
Yes I agree bitcoin is the most profitable investment at current. It also doesn’t need a huge amount to invest as capital and the opportunities of periodic earnings are no doubt makes it favorite among the investors. It is the big advantage of the bitcoin that even with a low budget you can start earning from your investment.

Prices are trading at $1570 right now. It means you got doubled if you have invested with bitcoins some 6 months back, will it possible with any other investments ?
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Apparently none of those according to zerohedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-29/last-remaining-cheap-asset

The article does not mention bitcoin since it is an highly speculative asset but it says that every other asset out there already overpriced because of the FED's money printing policy. Every other asset but "grain".
It doesn't make sense to me to fill my home with grain bags though it might become handy in wwIII.

If all assets are overpriced, Bitcoin is too. Because of quantitative easing, money has flown into almost all assets.
The only reason why grain prices haven't taken off is that governments will not allow a basic need like food to become very expensive. 
You forget one circumstance that it is the government that is cashing in on the sale of food products, including grain, and the people of the country that is the producer.
legendary
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Apparently none of those according to zerohedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-29/last-remaining-cheap-asset

The article does not mention bitcoin since it is an highly speculative asset but it says that every other asset out there already overpriced because of the FED's money printing policy. Every other asset but "grain".
It doesn't make sense to me to fill my home with grain bags though it might become handy in wwIII.

If all assets are overpriced, Bitcoin is too. Because of quantitative easing, money has flown into almost all assets.
The only reason why grain prices haven't taken off is that governments will not allow a basic need like food to become very expensive. 
legendary
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Apparently none of those according to zerohedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-29/last-remaining-cheap-asset

The article does not mention bitcoin since it is an highly speculative asset but it says that every other asset out there already overpriced because of the FED's money printing policy. Every other asset but "grain".
It doesn't make sense to me to fill my home with grain bags though it might become handy in wwIII.
legendary
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I too would recommend to buy bitcoins instead of other assets.I would advice not to wait for any dumps as dumps would be very rare here after and waiting for dumps would lead to buy bitcoins at much higher price.Only bullish trend would continue here after.
For those who are risk bearers, who don’t hesitate to take risk the bitcoin is the best asset for them. Due to the fluctuating feature of the bitcoin some people may think of it to invest in it or something else but a risk taking and market understanding person will never let this opportunity go. Even these who have avoid to invest in their past in it are now crying for it.
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