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legendary
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Update: House Speaker Boehner rules out impeachment: ‘Scam started by Democrats’

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Talk of impeachment was cooked up by a White House desperate for something to rally Democrats ahead of November’s elections, House Speaker John A. Boehner said Tuesday, flatly ruling out any action on the controversial suggestion.

“We have no plans to impeach the president. We have no future plans,” Mr. Beohner said. “Listen, it’s all a scam started by Democrats at the White House.”

Democrats have acknowledged impeachment talk has been good for their fundraising, but also say there’s some fire behind all the smoke. On Tuesday, congressional Democrats circulated a list of GOP candidates and sitting lawmakers who have said they want to see President Obama be impeached.

Some conservative commenters have said impeachment is the right step, given the way Mr. Obama has chosen to enforce or not enforce laws written by Congress.

But Republican leaders have tried to squelch the talk, saying they are focused on pursuing their lawsuit against Mr. Obama for overreaching his powers, and want to pass legislation on boosting job creation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/29/boehner-rules-out-impeachment/

The thesis is either correct or Boehner folded like a lawn chair on this.
hero member
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This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?

If they don't admit to mistakes, this doesn't in the least mean that they don't make them! Wink

So, when shrinking from admitting mistakes, they choose the lesser of the two evils, hoping that their mistakes will either go off unnoticed or get buried under the piles of demagoguery and the torrents of lies.

Like I said if that's the kind of people leading this country and other countries it's probably about time that we launch the nukes and cancel ourselves off the Earth - we can only go downward from here.

Their (governments') power is not absolute, if they make too many mistakes, or too serious ones, they will eventually lose the power they presently hold. So, nolence volence, they have to take notice of reality beside them and look who is behind them.
DrG
legendary
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To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?

If they don't admit to mistakes, this doesn't in the least mean that they don't make them! Wink

So, when shrinking from admitting mistakes, they choose the lesser of the two evils, hoping that their mistakes will either go off unnoticed or get buried under the piles of demagoguery and the torrents of lies.

Like I said if that's the kind of people leading this country and other countries it's probably about time that we launch the nukes and cancel ourselves off the Earth - we can only go downward from here.
hero member
Activity: 742
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To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?

If they don't admit to mistakes, this doesn't in the least mean that they don't make them! Wink

So, when shrinking from admitting mistakes, they choose the lesser of the two evils, hoping that their mistakes will either go off unnoticed or get buried under the piles of demagoguery and the torrents of lies.
full member
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If the congress can't impeach Nixon, Clinton and Bush, I can't see how they can impeach Obama.
DrG
legendary
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.

So then playing into the American idiot, since no members of Obama's administration (and few of Bush's) have admitted to making mistakes does that mean the American people see them as fit for the job?  Given Congress has less than a 15% approval rating obviously Congress' "lack of mistakes" is not preventing them from being disliked?

Not admitting to mistakes can only help them, but not necessarily hurt them?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 526
The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.

This is not a matter of whether I believe this or not, and to what degree. It is a given fact. People usually try to blame anything or anyone but themselves for their wrongs or wrongdoings. Any yes, if you don't admit a mistake, you won't be able to learn from it, but this would inevitably pose you to a question if you're fit for the job you've taken up. And people around you would obviously ask the same question.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.

You honestly believe that?  Well actually that might be true.  Obama got elected, I believe, to people who thought he could produce rainbows and unicorns.  To those same people an admission that a politician has made a judgement mistake would be grounds for dismissal then?  If Americans are that messed up then we might as well open up the silos and nuke ourselves and replace humanity with a better species.

If you can't admit you made a judgement mistake, you can never admit you learned from it.  People don't typically learn much from successes.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 526
The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!

To admit a mistake would be equal to admitting that you're not fit for the job you've been elected for or appointed to, and are taking someone else's place who would do the work better.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?

Janet Reno made a mistake and admitted to it.

Holder lets so much crap slide by.  Couldn't you say he had the blood of border agents on his hands with the gun running?

Name me one official cabinet member that Obama appointed that admitted to making a mistake.  Not even committing a crime - just making a mistake that we as humans make.  I'm a physician and I admit I make mistakes all time time - most of them fortunately are stupidly little clerical mistakes and not mistakes that effect my patients.  Just today I called myself stupid in front of the nurses.

Susan Rice is the perfect example of how proud this administration is - both sides agree she was wrong when she parroted the video message on the weekend talk shows.  Republicans say she did it intentionally.  Democrats say that's the best intel we had, until CIA said otherwise.  At no time since the CIA press release did she say she made a judgement mistake.  It's not criminal to make mistakes usually - certainly not for opening your mouth on a Sunday morning show.

Even Bush - I haven't heard him say that in retrospect Iraq was a bad move.  I don't think politicians will ever admit to mistakes - especially the bad ones.  It's how Obama can go around and give himself a grade of A- at the end of his first term  Cheesy  The only thing he would get an A- for is press puppet mastery - had he "enchanted" Fox he would have been an A+!
sr. member
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The last thing i am is an Eric Holder fan, but im 99% sure he wakes up everyday proud not being compared to "murder" Reno.

Isnt she scaring children for a living these days?
DrG
legendary
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I think they learned from the Clinton debacle that unless the abuse is really just outrageous that trying to do this is foolhardy.  All it will do is give the media a chance to rally around Obama and energize his base for elections.

Forget gun running, forget Benghazi (because ONLY 4 Americans/Ambassador died), forget Solyndra, forget Begdahl.  The outrageous abuse was the targeting of Americans by the IRS.  This is an attack on Americans by it's own government.  The fact that more Democrats (and even apathetic Republicans) don't cry out about this is disturbing.

Apathy has set in.  If that's the case nothing that goes on at the top is anything more than political theater.  For all we know it can all be a puppet show run by 1 wizard.
It has not been proven that the WH and/or Obama were behind the IRS targeting yet. Once a solid link to this scandal and the White House can be established Obama will likely be impeached within a week.

Well in the past we have seen cases where there has been clear destruction of evidence by companies and as a result the people who committed crimes were not able to be prosecuted - Enron and Solyndra for example.

The problem with the IRS scandal is that the absolute KNOWN highest part of government in this country, essentially what would amount to the Hand of the King if you're a Game of Thrones person, is the Attorney General. The last time I saw a decent AG was Janet Reno.  She was one of the few people in government who actually apologized for making a mistake (in the Waco, TX incident).  When was the last time you saw an official admit they made a mistake - not admit they were sorry they got caught doing something stupid like Anthony Weiner.

If Eric Holder is not willing to clear the IRS and settle the matter it will linger like a dormant cancer.  The only person who can show the light on government malfeasance would be government workers (doesn't seem to be any whistleblowers here) or the DOJ itself - and Eric Holder has already show himself to be Obama's lapdog. He's no Janet Reno.
legendary
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RIP Mommy
US politics is run by bussinessman. You can simply buy your way to power  Smiley
What would you want Americans to do?
Answer is quite obvious since american citizens have enough weapons to change anything in their political system. So, I have more interesting question, why do they need these weapons if they're not trying to use it for the purpose? Isn't this ridiculous? Roll Eyes

We're waiting for the democide (a government mass-murdering its own citizens), another shot heard around the world, to begin.
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Hi
That would mean absolutely nothing for our day lives.
I'm hesitant to even try to impeach until after the midterm elections and even then, Obama and his media would jive up his base that are sitting back right now by using skin coloring issue. It's almost like a Catch-22 but the bleeding needs to stop and it seems Obama is racing full speed ahead to transform America to his final stages before he's out of office. At minimum, the republican leadership needs to shut the purse off if they're serious about stopping this out of control spending and deterioration of most aspects of what's going on now.
I agree that Obama would likely make any impeachment about race just like he has done for many things that have nothing to do with race.

I would say that once the new Obama care health premiums are set for next year a lot less people will support Obama and hopefully republicans will have won sufficient senate seats to control the senate. If is is the case then Obama may very we'll be impeached as he would be very much unpopular and he has clearly broken the law several times while in office. If the GOP does not win the senate then impeachment would have no purpose because Harry Reid would not allow it to even come to a vote on the senate floor and even if it did then he would not be voted out of office by the crazy liberals. 
sr. member
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The republicans don't have the stones to do what should have been done a long time ago. Most of them are complicit with it anyway.
sr. member
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Answer is quite obvious since american citizens have enough weapons to change anything in their political system. So, I have more interesting question, why do they need these weapons if they're not trying to use it for the purpose? Isn't this ridiculous? Roll Eyes

Sadly the founding father philosophy is lost for most of the citizen. that's why every people against current American politic for whatever reason should support Bundy who stand against tyranny.
legendary
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US politics is run by bussinessman. You can simply buy your way to power  Smiley
What would you want Americans to do?
Answer is quite obvious since american citizens have enough weapons to change anything in their political system. So, I have more interesting question, why do they need these weapons if they're not trying to use it for the purpose? Isn't this ridiculous? Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Knowledge is Power
Ahh yes, the Republicans are still wasting people's time and money making the US government as shitty and ineffective as possible. Why actually do your job to make the country better for the public when you can serve your corporate overlords and prevent the government from functioning. Not that the Democrats are that much better, but at least they didn't put the government on shutdown and waste the last year or more trying to find a reason to remove the President.
legendary
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That would mean absolutely nothing for our day lives.
I'm hesitant to even try to impeach until after the midterm elections and even then, Obama and his media would jive up his base that are sitting back right now by using skin coloring issue. It's almost like a Catch-22 but the bleeding needs to stop and it seems Obama is racing full speed ahead to transform America to his final stages before he's out of office. At minimum, the republican leadership needs to shut the purse off if they're serious about stopping this out of control spending and deterioration of most aspects of what's going on now.
member
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I think they learned from the Clinton debacle that unless the abuse is really just outrageous that trying to do this is foolhardy.  All it will do is give the media a chance to rally around Obama and energize his base for elections.

Forget gun running, forget Benghazi (because ONLY 4 Americans/Ambassador died), forget Solyndra, forget Begdahl.  The outrageous abuse was the targeting of Americans by the IRS.  This is an attack on Americans by it's own government.  The fact that more Democrats (and even apathetic Republicans) don't cry out about this is disturbing.

Apathy has set in.  If that's the case nothing that goes on at the top is anything more than political theater.  For all we know it can all be a puppet show run by 1 wizard.
It has not been proven that the WH and/or Obama were behind the IRS targeting yet. Once a solid link to this scandal and the White House can be established Obama will likely be impeached within a week.
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