who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now - page 6.

ltcsprite

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Quote from: SpceGhst on May 07, 2018, 03:44:39 PM

Quote from: ltcsprite on May 07, 2018, 03:38:16 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on May 07, 2018, 02:52:22 PM

Quote from: crypto-hype on May 07, 2018, 11:53:03 AM

BTCP (Bitcoin Private) Currently Rank #45 announced to fight the new Bitmain Equihash Miner!

https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/993509511364317190

Another good news, congratulations BTCP team

congratulations for what?

They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community.

bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio.

Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently.

Weren’t the same arguments made when somebody figured out a GPU could mine 100 times faster than a CPU?

I think what the whole GPU vs. ASIC thing boils down to is the difference between the haves and the have nots!

I think you're spot on. I don't like arguing GPU vs ASIC, but I am not going to ignore the facts.

People say GPU mining = decentralized. Well how come I can only buy 1 Z9 but I can buy 300 RX 580's.

How is that decentralized. Honestly need to get rid of the centralized vs decentralized debate, ASIC's running allover the world, same with GPUs.

SpceGhst

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Quote from: ltcsprite on May 07, 2018, 03:38:16 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on May 07, 2018, 02:52:22 PM

Quote from: crypto-hype on May 07, 2018, 11:53:03 AM

BTCP (Bitcoin Private) Currently Rank #45 announced to fight the new Bitmain Equihash Miner!

https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/993509511364317190

Another good news, congratulations BTCP team

congratulations for what?

They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community.

bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio.

Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently.

Weren’t the same arguments made when somebody figured out a GPU could mine 100 times faster than a CPU?

I think what the whole GPU vs. ASIC thing boils down to is the difference between the haves and the have nots!

ltcsprite

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Quote from: rdluffy on May 07, 2018, 02:52:22 PM

Quote from: crypto-hype on May 07, 2018, 11:53:03 AM

BTCP (Bitcoin Private) Currently Rank #45 announced to fight the new Bitmain Equihash Miner!

https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/993509511364317190

Another good news, congratulations BTCP team

congratulations for what?

They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community.

bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio.

Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently.

rdluffy

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Quote from: crypto-hype on May 07, 2018, 11:53:03 AM

BTCP (Bitcoin Private) Currently Rank #45 announced to fight the new Bitmain Equihash Miner!

https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/993509511364317190

Another good news, congratulations BTCP team

Max Likelihood

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Quote from: Mike011 on May 07, 2018, 11:22:21 AM

Quote from: Max Likelihood on May 05, 2018, 07:40:20 PM

Maybe it will spark some bright young mind to figure out how to unlock those mythical disabled CUDA cores on 1070s. We need an "equilargement pill" or equihash equalizer tablet or something now to go with the ethlargement pill.

Hahahahaaa good luck with that. Those cores were disbled for a reason. If they weren`t, chip would probably end up in 1070 ti. If they are disabled that means that they are either not functional, or the chip is unstable.

Right. We need a miracle restabalizer hashrate exapander bios pump mod injection for them. Grin

crypto-hype

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BTCP (Bitcoin Private) Currently Rank #45 announced to fight the new Bitmain Equihash Miner!

https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/993509511364317190

Mike011

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Quote from: Max Likelihood on May 05, 2018, 07:40:20 PM

Maybe it will spark some bright young mind to figure out how to unlock those mythical disabled CUDA cores on 1070s. We need an "equilargement pill" or equihash equalizer tablet or something now to go with the ethlargement pill.

Hahahahaaa good luck with that. Those cores were disbled for a reason. If they weren`t, chip would probably end up in 1070 ti. If they are disabled that means that they are either not functional, or the chip is unstable.

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Quote from: ltcsprite on May 06, 2018, 11:52:15 AM

Quote from: norminorm on May 06, 2018, 11:47:17 AM

Please look at two charts Monero XMR and ASIC monero XMO.
AS you all see ASIC monero goes down the tubes from .025btc to .001btc.
WHY? this is the question i ask all ferocious defenders of new technologies (ASIC) .
The answer is sample - no support of the community.
ASIC DOES NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY - they hijack this forum only to sale the equipment and profit on something they didn't develop, create or support.
The big farms mining and dumping on market and changing for FIAT money.
This is not good for crypto - how you can defend that, it goes against what the crypto was designed for.
We small medium or even big GPU miners are supporting coins, pushing into exchanges, paying donation fees to devs etc.

What about Bitcoin?

Bitcoin Litecoin are old dinosaur projects controlled by community. Bitman try to control bitcoin but community disagree. that is why they create bitcoincash.

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Quote from: Iamtutut on May 07, 2018, 07:21:58 AM

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This company competes AGAINST its own customers, don't you get it ? They mine with the hardware, then resale this hardware as new to cutsomers. That's a scam.

If you know it and buy it, it's not. You have the choice

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Quote from: Kalyst69 on May 07, 2018, 07:03:49 AM

Quote from: lolchina on May 07, 2018, 06:14:48 AM

You dont see the problem in fact that only one company can create asics for zec and that its already mining with them for at least 3 months?If they were world spread and easy to buy like gpus i would be fine with this but this way its all in hands of one company

What is wrong in it ? They didn't make something bad, no centralization. Other companies can make ASICs too, you can do it too. Don't blame people who are good in business, if you were able to do it I'm sure you will have the same practices.

This company competes AGAINST its own customers, don't you get it ? They mine with the hardware, then resale this hardware as new to cutsomers. That's a scam.

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Quote from: lolchina on May 07, 2018, 06:14:48 AM

You dont see the problem in fact that only one company can create asics for zec and that its already mining with them for at least 3 months?If they were world spread and easy to buy like gpus i would be fine with this but this way its all in hands of one company

What is wrong in it ? They didn't make something bad, no centralization. Other companies can make ASICs too, you can do it too. Don't blame people who are good in business, if you were able to do it I'm sure you will have the same practices.

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Quote from: lolchina on May 07, 2018, 06:14:48 AM

Quote from: Kalyst69 on May 06, 2018, 08:04:06 PM

They said that Equihash is ASIC resistant because it requires a lot of memory, it doesn't mean it's ASIC proof and they never said that they will fight against ASICs all their life. As they say now, they cannot fight all their life against technology, they have more important things to improve their algorithm. I don't see any problem in ASICs (Bitcoin, Litecoin and others are still alive), only those who put all their money in GPU are afraid. People has to stop to talk about decentralization, everybody is looking to save his own investment, they just want money. it's hypocrisy.
If no ASIC, soon with ETH POS you will see million of GPU coming to increase the alt coins difficulty and then make GPU mining less profitable. And I prefer not talk about FPGA that cannot be stopped by a fork.

You dont see the problem in fact that only one company can create asics for zec and that its already mining with them for at least 3 months?If they were world spread and easy to buy like gpus i would be fine with this but this way its all in hands of one company

Those people like to act dumb, I refuse to believe

Look at Monero difficulty, ALL ASIC COMPANIES were mining hidden and then they all tried to sell at the same time to idiots, it's FACT

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Quote from: Kalyst69 on May 06, 2018, 08:04:06 PM

They said that Equihash is ASIC resistant because it requires a lot of memory, it doesn't mean it's ASIC proof and they never said that they will fight against ASICs all their life. As they say now, they cannot fight all their life against technology, they have more important things to improve their algorithm. I don't see any problem in ASICs (Bitcoin, Litecoin and others are still alive), only those who put all their money in GPU are afraid. People has to stop to talk about decentralization, everybody is looking to save his own investment, they just want money. it's hypocrisy.
If no ASIC, soon with ETH POS you will see million of GPU coming to increase the alt coins difficulty and then make GPU mining less profitable. And I prefer not talk about FPGA that cannot be stopped by a fork.

You dont see the problem in fact that only one company can create asics for zec and that its already mining with them for at least 3 months?If they were world spread and easy to buy like gpus i would be fine with this but this way its all in hands of one company

ZedZedNova

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Ooh La La, C'est Zoom!

Quote from: Sandal_Hat on May 06, 2018, 11:42:39 PM

It definitely wont be quiet. The setup of these things were never meant to be quiet. Try undsrclock and antminer such that the fan spins only 2400rpm and u will realize that even that is noisy.

Perhaps for a miner that consumes 1kW or more, but for a miner that consumes ~300W there isn't a need for huge quantities of air, unless the design is really bad. The miner looks like the usual Bitmain tube, and yes, I know that the pictures could be fake, but, Bitmain has a design pattern that they follow to keep things simple and allow for easy production at scale. I'm not saying for sure that they won't be loud, I'm just saying the probability is low. If the fan on my 450W modded S7-LN is quiet, then the same fan on a 300W miner won't be loud.

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It definitely wont be quiet. The setup of these things were never meant to be quiet. Try undsrclock and antminer such that the fan spins only 2400rpm and u will realize that even that is noisy.

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Like that Vosk guy. He’s commuting financial suicide right on you tube for all to see.

No, you're not going to get any of Vosk's success by buying an antminer. Try harder.

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Eventually they just die off. Like carburetor repairmen after fuel injection.

Bad analogy. I have many carbureted cars that still need assistance. Most of the carb guys I know do both. Some of the guys may be old, but they aren't dead. Oh, hey, that's like GPUs and ASICs, or maybe peanut butter and chocolate, right? Shocked

arielbit

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I've been all GPU since 2013...

if you don't know what to do with your GPUs...GPUs aren't for you Wink

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Ooh La La, C'est Zoom!

Quote from: Riptide_NVN on May 06, 2018, 09:31:28 PM

A $2000 race car engine? What is that a junkyard LS1? Grin

ASIC don't exactly have a reputation for being quiet. I guess we'll see.

Actually it's a $2,500 Mazda Renesis, from a junkyard. Grin

Correct, the S7-LN normally is pretty loud when it spins up, but it gets nice and quiet a little while after it starts. There is no way my wife would put up with a loud miner.

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A $2000 race car engine? What is that a junkyard LS1? Grin

ASIC don't exactly have a reputation for being quiet. I guess we'll see.

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