Who have right and which is the best? - page 2.

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Quote from: cjmoles on February 01, 2016, 11:45:56 AM

Well, true to some degree. Democracy was based on a 'general' consensus....a utilitarian approach to governance. Unanimity doesn't come into play in systems that are purely communal....but what is best for the masses takes precedence over whats best for the few (elite).

Bitcoin is not about politics so why bring that into things?

(it's about a consensus algorithm)

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:36:00 AM

Quote from: cjmoles on February 01, 2016, 11:33:16 AM

... Will there ever be a reasonable hope that a consensus would be reached or should the community settle for a less democratic structure?

Because Democracy is not based on consensus. If it was, a single nay would stop every advance in its tracks, and Democracy would have been stillborn.

Well, true to some degree. Democracy was based on a 'general' consensus....a utilitarian approach to governance. Unanimity doesn't come into play in systems that are purely communal....but what is best for the masses takes precedence over whats good for the few (elite).

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Quote from: cjmoles on February 01, 2016, 11:33:16 AM

Are there really shills who get paid to troll other members on this site or is that just some sort of thing people say...?

Well - why would people that don't even know me get into vitriolic attacks on me in such a topic if they were not being paid for it (especially when we are talking about new accounts that shouldn't even know about things from 6-12 months ago which somehow they do).

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Quote from: cjmoles on February 01, 2016, 11:33:16 AM

... Will there ever be a reasonable hope that a consensus would be reached or should the community settle for a less democratic structure?

Because Democracy is not based on consensus. If it was, a single nay would stop every advance in its tracks, and Democracy would have been stillborn.

@CIYAM: Good things take time. Each post you make is another nail etc., etc. Stop turning every thread into some quarrel about yourself. Your appearance in any thread is as welcome as Typhoid Mary. Srsly, bro.
VVV

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:32:12 AM

Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 11:28:03 AM

... You made your threat to sue me but it seems clearly you aren't going to go through with that ...

Wishful thinking Angry

Okay boastful troll - your threat to sue me has been noted.

Once you have failed will you admit you are a troll or what?

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:15:38 AM

Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 11:09:06 AM

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:07:02 AM

Right. You can't even lie right, as your post history shows. Keep waiting, tossing in bed every night, thinking about your life of [failed] crime.
You'll live to regret it.
Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Cool

As a troll you have become rather boring (are you too tired to think up anything more original?).

It isn't your fault - they only pay you X amount to troll me and I am rather a pest when it comes to trolling aren't I?

Wink

Each post you make is yet another nail in the coffin of laughable lies and failed extortion attempts you've cobbled together for yourself.
And don't think that moving to some third-world shithole will save you from the long arm of the law.
Wait.
Angry

Are there really shills who get paid to troll other members on this site or is that just some sort of thing people say...? Or, is trolling some sort of strange practice to derail a thread topic....a variety of red herring? I don't know....but it only demonstrates the problems outlined in the topic of this thread. Will there ever be a reasonable hope that a consensus would be reached or should the community settle for a less democratic structure?

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 11:28:03 AM

... You made your threat to sue me but it seems clearly you aren't going to go through with that ...

Wishful thinking Angry

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 10:58:48 AM

... That's right, wait for it. And don't bother pretending that you're not worried -- you are. As this thread clearly shows.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine...
Wait for it.
Angry

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:15:38 AM

... Each post you make is yet another nail in the coffin of laughable lies and failed extortion attempts you've cobbled together for yourself.
And don't think that moving to some third-world shithole will save you from the long arm of the law.
Wait.
Angry

Go on, post again about how you're totally not scairt shitless Cheesy

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:25:38 AM

Nah, we'll just call your wife. She'll take you in hand mighty quick, we've seen the power she wields over you here Angry

You seriously are a stupid person - your repeating of the incident in the past is not gaining you any respect (it only makes you look stupider and stupider).

You made your threat to sue me but it seems clearly you aren't going to go through with that so now you are trying to rewind and bring up earlier things.

Why don't you "grow a pair"?

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 11:21:38 AM

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:15:38 AM

Each post you make is yet another nail in the coffin of laughable lies and failed extortion attempts you've cobbled together for yourself.
And don't think that moving to some third-world shithole will save you from the long arm of the law.
Wait.
Angry

Of course - I am waiting for you to send the troops to capture me and then take me to prison.

Cheesy

Nah, we'll just call your wife. She'll take you in hand mighty quick, we've seen the power she wields over you here Angry

*But, of course, you're not worried at all. It usually takes me about 20 posts to convey how little I care about a topic Roll Eyes

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:15:38 AM

Each post you make is yet another nail in the coffin of laughable lies and failed extortion attempts you've cobbled together for yourself.
And don't think that moving to some third-world shithole will save you from the long arm of the law.
Wait.
Angry

Of course - I am waiting for you to send the troops to capture me and then take me to prison.

Cheesy

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 11:09:06 AM

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:07:02 AM

Right. You can't even lie right, as your post history shows. Keep waiting, tossing in bed every night, thinking about your life of [failed] crime.
You'll live to regret it.
Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Cool

As a troll you have become rather boring (are you too tired to think up anything more original?).

It isn't your fault - they only pay you X amount to troll me and I am rather a pest when it comes to trolling aren't I?

Wink

Each post you make is yet another nail in the coffin of laughable lies and failed extortion attempts you've cobbled together for yourself.
And don't think that moving to some third-world shithole will save you from the long arm of the law.
Wait.
Angry

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I have created a new topic for the troll attacking me - but seriously you need to realise that your topic is only going to attract trolls (there is a war going on at the moment).

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Please guys can you stop with this "war"? Have no sense to make dirty an entire thread with discussion totally out of this aim. I don't know who may have right and who may have wrong and to tell the right is the less important thing that worries me. If you are really very able to discuss about the aim of the thread explained at my main post that will be e big help for me and hope even for to many others. In my main post there are to many question and not only about which was discussed in the beginning. If are able to give opinions or data about that is asked there is ok. If not please continue all this mess in another thread created by you and that will be totally for you. There you can do everything you want. Thanks.

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So, to answer the original posters concerns, I don't think that there is a simple answer as to why the Bitcoin project's governance seems to be pulling in opposite directions. But, I believe that it has a lot to do with ideology, greed, ego, and power. Bitcoin's most important attribute is the community who stands behind it. By design, it had 'greed' incorporated into its protocol but as the POW system became more consolidated due to big mining farms, the 'greed' factor became less beneficial and more of a burden. That's where the community needs to step up and take back control somehow....I mean, is the same idea of consensus still applicable today or should we allow for a more contrived form of consensus? If so, whose opinion counts and whose should be ignored?

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 11:07:02 AM

Right. You can't even lie right, as your post history shows. Keep waiting, tossing in bed every night, thinking about your life of [failed] crime.
You'll live to regret it.
Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Cool

As a troll you have become rather boring (are you too tired to think up anything more original?).

It isn't your fault - they only pay you X amount to troll me and I am rather a pest when it comes to trolling aren't I?

Wink

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 11:01:33 AM

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 10:58:48 AM

That's right, wait for it. And don't bother pretending that you're not worried -- you are. As this thread clearly shows.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine...
Wait for it.
Angry

We are all waiting with bated breath for you to take me to court so how about you just STFU until you do so?

(funny that a defeated troll simply can't stop themselves from continuing to try and troll)

Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 09:31:32 AM

...Actually - no - I tend to post more about things like doing raw transactions (something you wouldn't even understand).
...

Right. You can't even lie right, as your post history shows. Keep waiting, tossing in bed every night, thinking about your life of [failed] crime.
You'll live to regret it.
Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Cool

CIYAM

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 10:58:48 AM

That's right, wait for it. And don't bother pretending that you're not worried -- you are. As this thread clearly shows.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine...
Wait for it.
Angry

We are all waiting with bated breath for you to take me to court so how about you just STFU until you do so?

(funny that a defeated troll simply can't stop themselves from continuing to try and troll)

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 10:55:30 AM

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 10:54:32 AM

On the other hand, expect defamation lawsuits. I won't stand for your slanderous accusations re. my being paid to post this.
I know who you are, criminal.
Angry

Okay - welcome to try and sue me.

So for those that really want to work out about who is serious - I will offer that this idiot never even bothers to take me to court.

That's right, wait for it. And don't bother pretending that you're not worried -- you are. As this thread clearly shows.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine...
Wait for it.
Angry

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Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 10:54:32 AM

On the other hand, expect defamation lawsuits. I won't stand for your slanderous accusations re. my being paid to post this.
I know who you are, criminal.
Angry

Okay - welcome to try and sue me.

So for those that really want to work out about who is serious - I will offer that this idiot never even bothers to take me to court (he probably doesn't even have enough money to hire a lawyer).

You've been *called out now* (best get in touch with your lawyer).

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Quote from: CIYAM on February 01, 2016, 10:51:16 AM

Quote from: blunderer on February 01, 2016, 10:49:10 AM

On the side of Truth and Justice? Is that what you mean, criminal? I can only hope so.

Again - calling me names - strange why you are attacking me - you don't know me and we've had zero business dealings - so why are you so angry at me?

Did I take your BTC?

You didn't manage to take anyone's BTC, not that you didn't try. You tried, but got caught in your childish, transparent lies. Then you got scared.
The evidence is there for everyone to see.
On the other hand, expect defamation lawsuits. I won't stand for your slanderous accusations re. my being paid to post this.
I know who you are, criminal.
Angry

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