Topic: Who is More Evil? (Read 3098 times)

I'm agree with this guy. evil is so relative. They all have their evil side.

A war of aggression is not illegal. The US has not made any law to this effect. The US has not signed any treaties to this effect. The UN has not passed any resolutions to this effect. By this logic, every war would be illegal. You have a very liberal mindset.

Iraq was still a completely illegal war (a war of aggression); so not only are the more direct casualties of the war the US's fault (and all other aggressors' fault), but the predictable outcome from it as well (namely, the expected sectarian conflict, for one). And this is just Iraq; the US has been involved a little all over the world, and when outright invasions weren't the methods used, coups and support for other brutal dictators was - like for example, Saddam, throughout his worst atrocities (before he disobeyed the US' orders and was punished for it).

I don't think it has been quite 1 million people that died in Iraq. Not only that but much of that number is from people that were fighting against the US (casualties of war) and the rest were not killed intentionally.

The people who were killed in North Korea were very much killed intentionally. The ones who have not been killed have been threatened with a number of bad things if they even disrespect the NK leader at the time.

Yes. The Korean dictatorship has killed around 3 million people. But the Americans are not far behind. Some 1 million has been killed in Iraq ever since Saddam was overthrown there. And many more were killed in Afghanistan, Libya.etc.

NK

Nice addition of Israel. I would probably put them ahead of the US at the moment. They're laughing in the face of the entire world right now while they slaughter civilians and bomb UN schools. Why the UN is not over there with their peacekeepers yet I don't know, or maybe I do *looks at US*.

Very true.  But North Korea has killed more people.  I know its only its own subjects but in terms of being evil, the North Koreans work a lot harder at it than the lazy Americans.

USA has invaded dozens of nations in the past several decades. On the other hand, there wasn't a single incidence of North Korea invading another sovereign nation ever since its existence.

Very tough question, and I'd love to take this opportunity to callously spout poorly-founded opinions out of my ass. I'll be going by guesstimated amount of evil committed and seeming commitment to continuing rather than "who's the most evil," which I wouldn't know where to begin quantifying.

21st century shitlist:
1) US
2) Sudan
3) NK
4) China
5) Israel
6) Syria
7) UK
8] Russia (ignoring the Chechen wars, remember)
9) France (I'm tempted to forgive France...)
("Islamic militants" not a valid poll option)

20th century shitlist:
1) Germany
1) Russia (tied!)
3) Japan
3) China (tied -- Imperial Japan was flat-out evil, no question - China was more shockingly stupid and callous, but inflicted more harm)
5) Belgium (CSF -- yeah, yeah, practically ancient history)
5) US (tied!)
7) Khmer Rouge
8] Italy
9) UK
(honorable mention for NK, I suppose)

North Korean concentration camps?  I hope that sarcasm because it's documented that China has plenty of forced labour camps themselves, with millions in confinement and they're political prisoners.

There's the US prison labour population which makes sweat shop goods.  

If I were to vote on this poll I would choose the militants.

You can blame the whole us / russia / etc for the actions of their leaders.
Of course many members on the government of those countries are "evil" and have their hand dirty but you can't say that the population of new York or Moscow is evil.

Voted USA just to piss you off

USA : North Korea 30 vs 14% ,lol. You goddamn Hippies & commies!

North Korea
They have concentration camps that are on par with if not worse than the Nazi's
They deny access to free speech or any information about the western world.
They paint Kim jong un as a Cult of personality
Without western food aid they would let their populous starve to death
in the concentration camps people are worked to death, tortured, killed and raped and it is seen as a norm there.

Fuck north Korea.

There is an assumption there that Israel wants peace, presumably in the form of the one, or two state solution, which I see no reason to believe is true. Rather, I believe they are perfectly happy maintaining the current status, where Palestinians in the West Bank are divided in what is increasingly resembling Bantustans, in which Israel can go in and take whatever land and resources they want for themselves, while keeping Gaza as an open air prison.


You do realize that Israel has an official policy towards Gaza of maintaining the population there in a state just slightly above that consistent with a humanitarian crisis, and the economy on the brink of collapse, right? I find it difficult to conciliate that, with the idea of helping someone, but I have to admire your mental gymnastics (and keep in mind never to ask for your help, apparently). About the warnings, even when they are given, where exactly are the civilians supposed to go? Last I checked civilians had little to no way of leaving Gaza, Israel had declared some 45% of the territory as a no-go zone, and even when civilians take refuge in shelters, many get hit anyway, as has repeatedly happened. And no, Israel does not automatically have the right to hit civilians because Hamas might or might not be nearby firing rockets and whatnot.

I agree. Israel has helped Gaza in many ways. They provide food and electricity to the people of Gaza and warn the citizens before they are going to bomb houses that have soldiers and military supplies in them.

Well i just wanted to point that people in general are evil.Meh I better stick with the subject,so i thing the goverment that is more evil is the North Korea  because for a long time north Korean people dont know what freedom is they are living daily in fear of getting punished by their goverment.The goverment havent develo their land and its like living at 19th century and thats how they show their tyrane.

I do agree here, but for this poll I'm referring to governments. I don't think that the people of NK are worse than the people of the US but the government is.

People in general are evil i cant compare or blame countries,people are making the ''bad name'' of their country.