Pages:
Author

Topic: Who is stronger the government or the president? - page 3. (Read 2250 times)

member
Activity: 96
Merit: 10
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

Your question could possibly be more vague  Smiley

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  Wink
Countries from the post-Soviet space is very difficult to get rid of those areas that were guided by the alliance. Although there are countries that have escaped this fate, even in Lithuania there are politicians who think in the old way and would like to return everything.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

Your question could possibly be more vague  Smiley

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  Wink
LOL. Is Russia ruled by law? What wars elite? What are you talking about? Without the approval of Putin's Russia, nothing is done. All the opposition was killed. What is this if not a dictatorship?
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 506
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

Your question could possibly be more vague  Smiley

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.

I wonder how do you define "dictatorial" country, that label is awfully popular today.
If you mean that either Ukraine or Russia is ruled by one dictator without limits, then that is blatantly false.

Russia has quite peculiar power elites, that struggle against each other in the Moscow and Petrograd. Not unlike power elites do the same in Washington. In both countries, president has to expend quite alot of energy on mediating interests of different cliques.

Ukraine is even more complicated as politicians blend with oligarchs and western agents, who keep pumping free money in the country.

Atleast in the first case however, rule of law is formally followed, when power balance requires it, the law is changed. So, take your time and read it  Wink
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

Your question could possibly be more vague  Smiley

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
I disagree with you. The reading of the Constitution will do nothing. In Russia or Ukraine, for example, Parliament is an independent branch of government, but in fact it is not. Especially in Russia. It is a dictatorial country disguised as a democracy.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 506
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

Your question could possibly be more vague  Smiley

In coutries such as Russia or Turkey, president is effectively head of the government aswell, in other euro countries (s)he is merely a figurehead for ceremonial occasions. United States and France fall somewhere inbetween those two extremes.

To be sure, you would have to actually read constituion of said country, as constitution clearly specifies who holds what powers in executive branch.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
The President is commander in chief of the army and Navy and police of the several States, when she was called up for active service of the United States. He has the right to:

- require the opinion, in writing, from the highest officials in each of the Executive departments on any matter relating to their official duties;

- to grant a reprieve and pardon for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment (not only private, but officials at other levels);

 the advice and consent of the Senate to make treaties, subject to their approval by two thirds of present senators;

- to fill all vacancies in the period between sessions of the Senate, giving identity to positions, which expire at the end of its next session;

- in extreme cases may convene both houses of Congress, or any of them;

in the event of a dispute between houses of Congress at the time of transfer meetings transfer them to such time as deemed appropriate.

The President of the United States upon the advice and consent of the Senate appoints the Cabinet of the President of the United States (includes 15 Ministers), ambassadors, other official representatives and consuls, judges of the Supreme court and all other officers of the United States. He periodically give Congress information about the state of the Union and recommend to its consideration such measures as he deems necessary and appropriate. The US President accepts ambassadors and other official representatives, is obliged to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, ascertains positions of all officers of the United States.

The President signs adopted by the U.S. Congress bills, after which they enter into force and become law, or veto them. To overcome a veto Congress must assemble at least two-thirds votes in each chamber.

According to the U.S. Constitution, the power to declare war is vested in the Congress. However, pursuant to the Resolution on war powers resolution of 1973, the President can give the order to start military action without the approval of Congress. In accordance with the resolution the President can give the order to start military action “only in the case of a Declaration of war, special permission in the form of the Statute of the national emergency created by an attack on the United States, their territories or possessions or armed forces.” And before you use military force, the President “whenever possible” must consult with Congress. If hostilities began, the President within 48 hours, shall submit to the Congress a report in writing. Without a Congress to sanction military action could last no longer than 60 days. In extreme cases, “to ensure fast and safe withdrawal” of the us armed forces, this period may be extended for another 30 days. However, if Congress would adopt a coincident or joint resolution containing the demand to stop military action, the President is required to submit prior to the expiration of both the first and second period.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1048
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy

In the USA, the president functions as a part of the government, as head of the the executive branch. This is one of three branches of our government, which all have equal power. He can only make very broad policy decisions, but has complete control over the American war machine. Most laws need to pass through the legislative branch, the arm responsible for passing laws. But the executive order can be used to great effect, as these zing merrily past the legislative branch into actuality. Like the travel ban, for example. Congress would have never let that pass, had it been a bill (see my avatar). It was too poorly written, which is why it was appealed in its first iteration.

But, the legislative branch has the power to impeach the president. This won't happen, unless some very, very serious shit comes to light (like the Russian or Azerbaijan affairs), because there is a majority of members that are the same party as Trump. So, the government is stronger than the president, as he is just a government employee, but because his party controls 2 of the 3 arms of the government, he is beyond reproach at the moment.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
Sorry not knowing this kind of stuff, its just i wanted to know who's the strong one of them because some of my friend told me that the government is strong because they can decide to impeach the president and also i thought that president is more stronger than the government for that the president is more likely  has a bigger rank of his country.. so i need your opinion on this one and teach me Cheesy
Pages:
Jump to: