Who is the Speaker going to file a lawsuit with? - page 2.

noviapriani

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Quote from: zolace on July 24, 2014, 11:48:17 AM

You're so full of bs
Where are the damages in not issuing a parking ticket......where are the damages that warrant a parking ticket....there have to be damages for a crime to be committed correct......

You believe there are no damages when the rule of law isn't followed....duly noted

There aren't any, which is why I don't attempt to sue my meter maid for not issuing one. Generally speaking one can express damages in dollar or utility terms for a wide variety of crimes: including illegal parking or driving.

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If the president isn't going to follow the law he passed, why should anyone follow any law?

noviapriani

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Quote from: Rigon on July 24, 2014, 12:01:32 PM

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Quote from: noviapriani on July 24, 2014, 09:14:59 AM

he does not have a point. he wanted the employer mandate delayed. but now that obama delayed it, he is suing. obama is an imperial president but im not interested in wasting tax payer dollars in a bullshit lawsuit. these turds are about to go on recess and boehner pulls this lawsuit gem deep out of his asshole. i don't think he thought it through that far.

Are you suggesting that Obama can make a law that includes dates, ignore the dates (which means ignoring the law), and there should be no repercussions?

So in your eyes the president is above the law?

I'm asking for a motive to bring it to court that isn't frivolous. Would you attempt to sue a meter maid for not ticketing your car?

The president breaking the law is frivolous? And btw, it's not against the law for a meter aid to not ticket. Where in the law was the text that allowed the president to extend the deadlines?

You still haven't expressed damages in any way shape or form. Feel free to at any time. It's telling that your only capable of responding to my initial question by making up stances for me to believe in.

What's telling is that Obama, a lawyer, fought for and passed a law and then thought nothing of breaking it, and you're ok with it. You don't need damages, just mandamus or an injunction.

Exactly, but that also isn't really aimed at punishing the president that's just forcing him to hurt other people through the fines; not the best PR stunt for conservative politicians. Really, what's the end goal in seeking a mandamus? Hurting others in an attempt to make people dislike the Affordable Care Act more? Seems like a pretty petty thing to do for the purpose of attempting to score political capital.

if someone believes obamacare is shit (and there's plenty of reason to) then getting more people to see that it's shit and also not like it is pretty smart.

It takes an exceptionally shitty person to enjoy accumulating political capital at the malicious expense of the people they are supposed to represent. Motives matter, and what I have been asking you for here is a motive outside of the child-like belief that occasionally being lenient and not following the letter of the law (through punitive action) regardless of the situation is always terrible. Or more likely: outside of the malicious desire to gain points no matter who it hurts. The latter is also rather dumb as it could easily backfire.