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December 11, 2024, 03:15:36 PM
#28
Arbitrage is a necessary service in order for markets to even attempt to be "efficient".

Most of economics depends pretty heavily on the concept of "efficient" markets but in my experience, admittedly mostly in dealing with roleplaying game players and a multi-currency, multi-asset game (the Galactic Milieu) players cannot be relied upon to play the markets in suffient quantities and with sufficient diligence to actually make the markets anywhere even close to "efficient".

It is partly for that reason that the Milieu uses a "treasuries" system, which works like a kind of reverse of the common "market cap" concept you see on crypto aggregator sites.

With the "treasuries" system instead of looking at last price or highest current buy offer or a moving average or depth-adjusted average etc of such things to figure out a price for an asset then multiply that by the number in existence to compute a "market cap" we do the opposite: we add up the value of an asset's "treasury", treat that as if it were the "market cap", and divide it by the number in existence to find how much each instance in existence is worth.

Thus for example a Corp or currency having a hundred million units in existence and a "treasury" of a whole bitcoin would be computed as having a value per share coin token etc (instance) of one satoshi (one hundred-millionth of its total "treasury").

The results of those calculations, after looping them like a spreadsheet until an interation of the loop no longer changes the outcome (to 8 decimals) is uploaded periodically as the Latest Rates include-file, in which usually DeVCoin, being usually the smallest aka lowest-value item in the list, appears at a rate 0f 1.00000000 although of course the list can thence be converted to use any of the items on it to be what is used to denominate any of the others, or of course other arbitrary values can be used in terms of which to re-denominate all the others.

Years ago using the Open Transactions system the include-file would then be used to three different scales of markets, since in Open Transactions one could scale markets so one could have a retail scale market with one set of prices, a medium range or business to business or whatever market dealing in "lots" of hundreds or thousands or ten-thousands at a time, and a wholesale or largest market dealing in "lots" even larger; that let us offer players a way to buy wholesale cheaper and sell retail at a profit, by buying for example in "lots" of 10,000 of a thing at a time and re-selling on the one-at-a-time market.

We didn't even use decimals back then, so that an asset being too expensive to buy whole ones of could thus act like a higher denomination of something smaller. So in those days the prices showing prices with decimals in the value-in-DeVCoins would have required some even cheaper thing to use for the decimals. That, I figured, could help make sure there remained a use for copper pieces, silver pieces, gold pieces, platinum pieces, jade pieces, and amberium pieces like in various roleplaying games.

The thing is, it simply has not seemed to "work" to try to depend upon there being a constantly vigilant constantly active player-base playing the markets for the "spot markets" to ever really hope to approach the "efficiency" of directly calculating values from "treasuries", especially because no one entity in the game ought really ever have enough of the information, instantly enough, about what every asset was putting into its "treasury" moment to moment, even if we don't let anything once put into a "treasury" come out of it other than maybe in trade for an equivalent (by the same calculations) value of something else.

Thus we just publish the calculated Latest Rates then any players actually bothering to worry about the efficiency of "spot markets" can run around looking for "bargains" in the sense of anything they can find for sale on any venue that they can pick up for less than its latest calculated value.

In practice, not a lot of players ran around doing that "bargain hunting" aka arbitrage; then someone totally trashed the spot market (on Stellar platform) price of HZ, the native coin of the HORIZON platform on which such bargain hunting took place, prompting pretty much all the players to delete all their sell offers on the HORIZON platform since unfortunately on HORIZON all trading-pairs are whatever versus HZ.

So hey if you are into arbitrage and can motivate some others to also get into it that could be great for market efficiency, so far "spot markets" have been seeming to be really crappy way to calculate prices in the game, our direct spreadsheet-like "treasuries based" system has so far seemed much more "efficient".

By the way, that is even despite the fact that typically each treasury-based asset also has at least one "slush fund", a pile of assets that are not computed into the value calculation, and ideally in fact one's "slush fund" ought to be worth as much as one's official treasury or more since one's "slush fund" is what one would draw upon to place buy offers on "spot markets" to cause sites like CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko etc to think your asset has value by their own "look at the buy offers or latest buys" system of coming up with values for things.

Ultimately in order to have "spot markets" calculate a price close to your calculated value based on your treasury, you could need as much value piled into your buy offers on the spot markets as you have in your treasury. So all these Latest Rates are basically deliberately really presumably under-estimations of value. Smiley


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December 11, 2024, 11:59:51 AM
#27
Cryptocurrency arbitrage can be a smart way to profit from price differences across exchanges. For those dealing with Pi Coin, sellpicoininstant.com offers quick and reliable solutions.
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January 21, 2024, 06:50:41 AM
#26
Crypto arbitrage is not as easy as you think. Although alot of people has made it from it back them but now one have to be very careful when dealing with arbitrage especially when using some uncommon exchange, so that one won't be scammed.
Scammers are everywhere and they keep consistently upgrading their tier to another different level and this time, it's scarce and difficult to spot out scam projects because they bear all the physical qualities of a solid projects in the market and an investor could easily fall into the hands of these scamming projects and later regret. There are different sectors of Crypto, we just have to stick one promising sector that's favorable for us. Crypto arbitrage is one of the easy way to generate reasonable amount of money but we just have to do what we think is good.

Just as you have said spotting scammers in crypto may looks difficult but sometimes if you aren't greedy with their fake promises, you can still get doing enough research on such project. One just needs to be careful when running crypto arbitrage.

Most scam project look even like real ones this days. That is why it is better for one to only invest in altcoin with the amount one can avoid to lose. In this space, I don't think I have made any profit on altcoin. Crypto arbitrage is something one needs to be careful with and need to learn the rules that guide any exchange been used before engaging in it.
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January 21, 2024, 01:25:02 AM
#25
Hi everyone, I found an address that does very good arbitrage trades. Write me in messages who knows about cryptocurrency arbitrage, how can you copy trades, or explain how to search for the same trades.

A buddy of mine who codes recently made a neat new algorithm and I messaged him asking to send him some BTC but he just doesn't want to bear any risk on his end should his arbitration cease to produce gains. I think it's worth the risk, he was getting like 20% ROI  Cry
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January 21, 2024, 12:43:35 AM
#24
Hi everyone, I found an address that does very good arbitrage trades. Write me in messages who knows about cryptocurrency arbitrage, how can you copy trades, or explain how to search for the same trades.
I have been hearing about this crypto arbitrage and have not given it a trial though I always see it online and I always lost it as a profitable business just the way it was presume online, but haven't done anything yet about it. Do anyone has the link to educate me on that?
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January 20, 2024, 03:49:56 PM
#23
Crypto arbitrage is not as easy as you think. Although alot of people has made it from it back them but now one have to be very careful when dealing with arbitrage especially when using some uncommon exchange, so that one won't be scammed.
Scammers are everywhere and they keep consistently upgrading their tier to another different level and this time, it's scarce and difficult to spot out scam projects because they bear all the physical qualities of a solid projects in the market and an investor could easily fall into the hands of these scamming projects and later regret. There are different sectors of Crypto, we just have to stick one promising sector that's favorable for us. Crypto arbitrage is one of the easy way to generate reasonable amount of money but we just have to do what we think is good.

Just as you have said spotting scammers in crypto may looks difficult but sometimes if you aren't greedy with their fake promises, you can still get doing enough research on such project. One just needs to be careful when running crypto arbitrage.
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December 23, 2023, 05:52:01 PM
#22
Crypto arbitrage is not as easy as you think. Although alot of people has made it from it back them but now one have to be very careful when dealing with arbitrage especially when using some uncommon exchange, so that one won't be scammed.
Scammers are everywhere and they keep consistently upgrading their tier to another different level and this time, it's scarce and difficult to spot out scam projects because they bear all the physical qualities of a solid projects in the market and an investor could easily fall into the hands of these scamming projects and later regret. There are different sectors of Crypto, we just have to stick one promising sector that's favorable for us. Crypto arbitrage is one of the easy way to generate reasonable amount of money but we just have to do what we think is good.
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December 23, 2023, 03:27:01 AM
#21
Crypto arbitrage is not as easy as you think. Although alot of people has made it from it back them but now one have to be very careful when dealing with arbitrage especially when using some uncommon exchange, so that one won't be scammed.
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December 19, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
#20
I get it.

Yes, these hacks do happen sometimes. You can read on the internet about Gala and about Crv. When Luna dumped, that was also arbitrage, for example. So I'm looking for people who are also interested in arbitrage.
Okay, I didn't know about that because the normal arbitrage that I know is the one that you'll look for exchanges to exchanges and compare prices with them.

i don’t personally dwell in trading most especially arbitrage it’s a very complex way of trading
There's nothing special with it, it's actual trading but more job to do as you need to check and compare prices from here and there.
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December 19, 2023, 09:44:11 AM
#19
Hi everyone, I found an address that does very good arbitrage trades. Write me in messages who knows about cryptocurrency arbitrage, how can you copy trades, or explain how to search for the same trades.

Arbitrage terms are used for trades that a trader has been doing simultaneously in different markets to make profits by using the benefits of the price difference of an asset. There are a few price aggregator websites that offer data for arbitrage trade opportunities, and there are so many arbitrage traders in the market that it is really hard to make profits if you can't watch the market most of the time. Also arbitrage trading requires a trader to have funds in a few marketplaces, so a trader needs a large portfolio as well. Copy trade is a different kind of trade where users follow the trading activity of professional traders to make profit. Arbitrage trading is much safer than copy trading because in arbitrage trading a trader can buy sell instantly.
Have you read the posts in this thread? Why did you just copy the description of arbitrage from artificial intelligence?
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December 19, 2023, 09:41:18 AM
#18
- https://twitter.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1736431214695944406

I'm not sure if this is what the OP is looking for, but I have a lot of doubts about information like this. Actually, the owner has achieved a profit, like winning lottery tickets, luck or some trick depending on how we interpret it.

But I also see some interesting features that Arkham shares with the community. This tool brings many interesting experiences, but if you research it yourself, it will be better. That is my suggestion for what you might be looking for.

But it must be reiterated that there are many risks in this market, especially for newcomers who like dependence without being proactive in the research and evaluation process.
That's not it at all, it's just a post about someone bought this cryptocurrency and it went up. What does that have to do with arbitrage?
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December 19, 2023, 06:46:17 AM
#17
Hi everyone, I found an address that does very good arbitrage trades. Write me in messages who knows about cryptocurrency arbitrage, how can you copy trades, or explain how to search for the same trades.

Arbitrage terms are used for trades that a trader has been doing simultaneously in different markets to make profits by using the benefits of the price difference of an asset. There are a few price aggregator websites that offer data for arbitrage trade opportunities, and there are so many arbitrage traders in the market that it is really hard to make profits if you can't watch the market most of the time. Also arbitrage trading requires a trader to have funds in a few marketplaces, so a trader needs a large portfolio as well. Copy trade is a different kind of trade where users follow the trading activity of professional traders to make profit. Arbitrage trading is much safer than copy trading because in arbitrage trading a trader can buy sell instantly.
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December 19, 2023, 06:43:13 AM
#16
- https://twitter.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1736431214695944406

I'm not sure if this is what the OP is looking for, but I have a lot of doubts about information like this. Actually, the owner has achieved a profit, like winning lottery tickets, luck or some trick depending on how we interpret it.

But I also see some interesting features that Arkham shares with the community. This tool brings many interesting experiences, but if you research it yourself, it will be better. That is my suggestion for what you might be looking for.

But it must be reiterated that there are many risks in this market, especially for newcomers who like dependence without being proactive in the research and evaluation process.
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December 19, 2023, 06:29:48 AM
#15
I've said several times that well let's discuss in the thread and not in private messages so you don't feel like I'm going to then offer some scam services

Oh! Sorry for that, but I am very far from that you're thinking. I was just trying to prevent PM and not thinking of you scamming them. So as I have said and others have said, cryptocurrency arbitration is for experts and also a calculative move by traders who who use two exchanges to manipulate their trading for maximum profit. Some of them use Decentralized Exchanges with Centralized Exchanges. Why did they use the both. In most cases, DEX sell coins in lower rate and CEX buy coins in higher rate so they see this two parameters and make their purchased and sell it off in another exchange.

Op now discussion as started, now you can make your comments why the thread was created.
I know what arbitration is and its essence. I want to know how to look for and find situations for arbitrage. I'm talking about situations where there is a very good spread. For example, a hack, when let's say a hacker gets most of the tokens and then sells on dex and the price of the token on dex drops by a lot of percent and you could buy the token on dex, transfer it to cex and sell it (this happened with gala). The same thing can happen if the owner or any other large holder sells most of the tokens. How to look for such cases of large token sale or purchase?

I also found an address where arbitrage transactions are going on and there is arbitrage between different bridges. Here is an example: EtherDrops Tracking Bot:
 - ARBITRUM
Received: 106,165 GENE (~$2,115) From: ParaSwap
Sent: 1.00 ETH (~$2,158) To: ParaSwap
Tx hash

 - POLYGON
Sent: 106.165 GENE (~$2,115) To: ParaSwap
Received: 1.07 WETH (~$2,289) From: ParaSwap
Tx hash

How do I find similar ones?
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December 19, 2023, 05:37:16 AM
#14
i don’t personally dwell in trading most especially arbitrage it’s a very complex way of trading

time in trading in general is very crucial but it is most important when you’re doing arbitrage you need to look for two assets or coins that you can see have a huge price difference because that is what you’re going after for after you’ve locked in your two assets you need now to be most knowledgeable about their markets from here you need to observe and choose when will you be buying and selling

depending on what kind of assets you want to trade you might want to take note of whatever news that might affect the market
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December 19, 2023, 01:37:09 AM
#13
I've said several times that well let's discuss in the thread and not in private messages so you don't feel like I'm going to then offer some scam services

Oh! Sorry for that, but I am very far from that you're thinking. I was just trying to prevent PM and not thinking of you scamming them. So as I have said and others have said, cryptocurrency arbitration is for experts and also a calculative move by traders who who use two exchanges to manipulate their trading for maximum profit. Some of them use Decentralized Exchanges with Centralized Exchanges. Why did they use the both. In most cases, DEX sell coins in lower rate and CEX buy coins in higher rate so they see this two parameters and make their purchased and sell it off in another exchange.

Op now discussion as started, now you can make your comments why the thread was created.
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December 18, 2023, 06:53:56 PM
#12
I miss arbitrage Wink.

Do you want to start?

Have you been monitoring the price of the coin you want to buy in arbitrage?
I'm sure you are a person who cares about the price difference of crypto assets between several exchanges either between CEX or between several DEX with the same coin.
I used to prepare 50$ in 4 exchanges (dex and cex).when the price goes up I sell and leave the capital until it runs out, when the dump also divides 5 times to buy, after all is sold, we just have to see the results of continuing to arbitrage on that coin or other coins that are good for entry.

I'm not modeling my small capital, I'm just sharing my strategy.
It is possible to arbitrage with one exchange and move to another exchange but anticipate if there is a withdrawal suspension or long confirmation if cross cex, and anticipate missing the flash dump or flash pump price.

I only lasted a short time because I was just trying to arbitrage, for me now it's better to do daily scalping or hodl er without having to remember.
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December 18, 2023, 06:20:27 PM
#11
Hi everyone, I found an address that does very good arbitrage trades. Write me in messages who knows about cryptocurrency arbitrage, how can you copy trades, or explain how to search for the same trades.
Crypto abitrage is simply buying coin from exchange that the price is low and sell in exchange that the price is high and make profit from the little amount attached to it. For example if 1 Bitcoin is sold at $41400k exchange A and cost $41700 in exchange B you buy from exchange A and sell in exchange D and take advantage of the change in price I think that is the description of crypto abitrage..
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December 18, 2023, 05:59:13 PM
#10
Hi everyone, I found an address that does very good arbitrage trades. Write me in messages who knows about cryptocurrency arbitrage, how can you copy trades, or explain how to search for the same trades.
If you found an address in the arbitrary trading then you have use it to trade instead of inviting people to dm you. Is it to teach them how to do the arbitrary trading or you want to know something from the person? If it is any of the above then you can open up here free and fair discussion. Arbitrary trading is done by specialist and experts to trading with different accounts at the same time. Okay, you can share your experience here then contributions will follow so there is no big deal here and just understanding. Well yes hackers can arbitrate a trade.
I've said several times that well let's discuss in the thread and not in private messages so you don't feel like I'm going to then offer some scam services
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December 18, 2023, 05:33:27 PM
#9
Op after creating a thread for discussion I think it is wrong to dm some members again in regards to the same matter, more especially in forums like this were are all security conscious and alert to disregard any scam chart of messages. However I haven't got the Chance to partake in any arbitrary trading since I joined the the world of crypto but, I would love to obtain guidance from experienced members so as to increase my knowledge, even if it seems to be outdated. Though I have seen an offer from binance some months back, that would be a good explanation for this service but, it was only possible if the trader is dealing with at least 1bitcoin.
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