Who make ICO coin down? this is my opinion.

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 08:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

good point and thank sharing. And I think what makes ico coins to fall is coins in fact unusual and people are buying them to manipulate instead of investing. Thanks to hundred of useless projects more and more ppl don’t trust ico

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 08:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

I agree with you, that the bonus is the main thing that causes prices to drop dramatically, the greater the bonus, the easier it is for investors to return their main capital. that means there are dumped harder by investors to return their main capital and after that investors still hold a portion of the coins which are the profits of their investments.

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Ico prices are generally high for this market, people doesnt look to prices I think then they are losing 3-4 times their money after ico. And second reason is big bonuses who is receiving at pre or private sale.

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um, yes. This is not a person's attention. Many monopoly people think so, they will make the market decline very seriously. Let those bad altcoins disappear.

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Very informative topic. You make me think more about the term ‘bounty hunter’. I solely think of government at first.

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There isnt a particular person that the blame can be apportion to, bounty hunters who need money sell off easily, early investors who get huge bonuses can sell off early to regain their investment and profit.

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Quote from: murtadhogaul on July 31, 2018, 07:28:43 PM

Quote from: tabas on July 30, 2018, 08:12:19 PM

Quote from: eko23 on July 30, 2018, 12:38:41 PM

Yes with the allocation only 1-3 % usually i think isn't too make price of coin will be down.The actually the price of coin the holder and developer is significant make the coin down

And the blame goes to the bounty hunters by these portion when the coin that everyone invested goes down after it gets to any exchange.
I also think that's not enough to put all the blame to the bounty hunters although there's a force if they sell at the same time.

yes, the prize hunters are not to blame, they hold only a very small number of coins and can be only 1% of the total, and not all of the bounty hunters sell instantly the rewards they get.

People blame them because they are very visible, a whale can buy a huge amount of coins in an ico and that person does not need even an account in the forum but the person that is here in the forum promoting the projects is very visible and it is also very easy to blame them for the decrease in the price when for the most part they are blameless for the decrease in the price of a coin.

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ICO token price dump just because project behind each token is not good enough to make their tokens go to the moon

. You can take a look at CS token price

. No matter if it's being in downward trend but CS price is always much higher than ICO price

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Quote from: murtadhogaul on July 31, 2018, 07:28:43 PM

Quote from: tabas on July 30, 2018, 08:12:19 PM

Quote from: eko23 on July 30, 2018, 12:38:41 PM

Yes with the allocation only 1-3 % usually i think isn't too make price of coin will be down.The actually the price of coin the holder and developer is significant make the coin down

And the blame goes to the bounty hunters by these portion when the coin that everyone invested goes down after it gets to any exchange.
I also think that's not enough to put all the blame to the bounty hunters although there's a force if they sell at the same time.

yes, the prize hunters are not to blame, they hold only a very small number of coins and can be only 1% of the total, and not all of the bounty hunters sell instantly the rewards they get.

Yes most of them are only holding that portion so they are not to blame. It can be the developers that doesn't really have plans to support and go long term with their coin with their partners and investors. And the rest who invested that made them believe that they have potential will be left behind.

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Quote from: tabas on July 30, 2018, 08:12:19 PM

Quote from: eko23 on July 30, 2018, 12:38:41 PM

Yes with the allocation only 1-3 % usually i think isn't too make price of coin will be down.The actually the price of coin the holder and developer is significant make the coin down

And the blame goes to the bounty hunters by these portion when the coin that everyone invested goes down after it gets to any exchange.
I also think that's not enough to put all the blame to the bounty hunters although there's a force if they sell at the same time.

yes, the prize hunters are not to blame, they hold only a very small number of coins and can be only 1% of the total, and not all of the bounty hunters sell instantly the rewards they get.

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 08:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

ICOs that promise a percentage of more than 90 percent is a RED flag for me that it won't go anywhere and the team might be scammers that is enticing investors. For 50 percent bonus is quite normal for early investors and I always think they are the cause of the price dumb and not bounty hunters.

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Yeah you are huge bonus is one of the reason why some ICO coin is always down, also bounty hunters sometimes plays a role in making the coins of an ICO to go down, if you have noticed, any time they share bounty token, the coin normally dump, because bounty hunters will sell at any given price.

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Quote from: tabas on July 30, 2018, 08:12:19 PM

Quote from: eko23 on July 30, 2018, 12:38:41 PM

Yes with the allocation only 1-3 % usually i think isn't too make price of coin will be down.The actually the price of coin the holder and developer is significant make the coin down

And the blame goes to the bounty hunters by these portion when the coin that everyone invested goes down after it gets to any exchange.
I also think that's not enough to put all the blame to the bounty hunters although there's a force if they sell at the same time.

As expected which those impressions would really put up into bounty hunters when theres a price dump when the token is just being listed and then suddenly dumps out without even realizing that the main dumpers is the investors itself. Yes, those bounty hunters can really make some effect on a tokens price but come to think 1-2% of the token supply wont really hurt that much if we do see it as a whole.

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It can affect so much dude, I think we should to look at the situation with ICO from bird view, and they're lots of variables that affect on ICO dropping/growing. About ICOs I'm interested in investing into Kelvin Blockchain, you heard about this? What's your upcoming projects on which you're focused? Wink

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Quote from: HappyLocust41 on July 30, 2018, 11:42:22 AM

Quote from: coinSpecter32 on July 28, 2018, 09:05:56 PM

Most of the reasons you all have indicated is clearly the reasons why the prices hit so low on exchange. But if the team behind projects are competent enough on what they're doing, they could bounce back the price. The problem is the team behind each scam projects are just focusing on and before the project is listed, and not minding what will happen after it hits exchange. Those all can be prevented if the project are well planned including the factors that would affect their coins/tokens AFTER it hits exchange. Right now, I still have faith on ICO projects based on the team behind them, currently I have been following EOT and MENLO.

I'm not messing with ICOs until they go through Menlo One's review/ICO marketplace system. Rating websites like ICObench or ICOrating are generally useful, but not 100% accurate since I've joined some of their recommend projects which turned out to be empty promises.

I agree that ICObench is not really that accurate in terms of their ratings, but how sure are you that Menlo One won't be just another carbon copy of icobench? Can we trust its current high ratings?

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 08:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

Nothing wrong you are in fact correct, when the developers give bonuses to the early investors they are only creating incentives to sell as fast as possible this is why I do not invest in any ico that gives those kind of bonuses since most of the time that means that the price is going down in the near future, if the coin is any good the early investors already have a huge advantage over everyone, why do they need a bonus?

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From this point of bonuses offered you will distinguish whos scam or not though not totally truth but the majority is right.the big bonus offered is the big chances of being scammers

But most of your point is true that the high promises of bonuses are the one factor that when it was available in exchanges the value drops down because of more volume than the capital,but this is the way how to attract investors the bigger bonus they get is the more attractive it gets

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I believe that people who say that bounty hunters are to blame for the ICOs' falling price, they have no idea how the market works, a dump of 1 or 3% of the coins is not going to ruin the project overnight, what happens is that the project did not have a successful ICO and investors did not see much future, so they decided to sell to at least recover some of what they lost.

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No one is wrong out here, we have our own different kinds of disputes regarding the price decrease when new ICO coin is released on exchanged. Mine is that it depends on how popular it is, if it is interesting and people are caught in it- then surely they will buy and that will cause the price surge. Bounty hunters can affect the price also, you see if the ICO ended and all they have sold is around 30% of the total coin or less, and bounty allocation is around 1-3%, when the time it is available on exchange, hunters would dump it and thus bringing the coin down.

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Quote from: eko23 on July 30, 2018, 12:38:41 PM

Yes with the allocation only 1-3 % usually i think isn't too make price of coin will be down.The actually the price of coin the holder and developer is significant make the coin down

And the blame goes to the bounty hunters by these portion when the coin that everyone invested goes down after it gets to any exchange.
I also think that's not enough to put all the blame to the bounty hunters although there's a force if they sell at the same time.

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