Who make ICO coin down? this is my opinion. - page 2.

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 07:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

You are right, huge bonus makes the price of coins to go down, it doesn't matter how many months, or years locked up, you placed on the tokens, and that's more reason I don't normally participate in any ICO that offers huge bonus, I prefer no bonus ICO.

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Most of the newly released ICO tokens to exchanges build their volume first so it is more likely that they are starting with a small volume as things get started to accumulate, There's a lot of factors to consider and to view why the ICO tokens dumped so quickly right after the exchange release, huge bonuses and discounts as the OP stated, dev team are selling, circulating supply, airdrops and bounty hunters, as you can see right after the dump some of the tokens started to recover.

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 07:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

You kinda right though, it's true that the allocation for bounty hunter is kinda low but it also plays a major role in dumping, the bonus aspect is where each project needs to be caution of because such bonus will definitely lead to huge dump

eko23

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Yes with the allocation only 1-3 % usually i think isn't too make price of coin will be down.The actually the price of coin the holder and developer is significant make the coin down

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I think, The trend and condition of the market is not to support the new altcoin at this time. Long-term downtrend has a big impact on investor sentiment. In part, the overwhelming reliance on bitcoin and ETH has been counterproductive.

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Quote from: coinSpecter32 on July 28, 2018, 08:05:56 PM

Most of the reasons you all have indicated is clearly the reasons why the prices hit so low on exchange. But if the team behind projects are competent enough on what they're doing, they could bounce back the price. The problem is the team behind each scam projects are just focusing on and before the project is listed, and not minding what will happen after it hits exchange. Those all can be prevented if the project are well planned including the factors that would affect their coins/tokens AFTER it hits exchange. Right now, I still have faith on ICO projects based on the team behind them, currently I have been following EOT and MENLO.

I'm not messing with ICOs until they go through Menlo One's review/ICO marketplace system. Rating websites like ICObench or ICOrating are generally useful, but not 100% accurate since I've joined some of their recommend projects which turned out to be empty promises.

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I think dump of ICO tokens happen because of big bonuses and no lock for private investors or because of bad projects with no exchanges and bad liquidity, that's in my opinion top 2 answers. And of course when demand is less than supply.

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Huge bonuses has its effect. Most times, those tokens might have never been sold if not for the promise of huge bonuses.
Marketing is a tricky issue. Also the general market is down. Sine tokens which offered huge bonuses to investors are selling at a loss to those investors (bonuses included).

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Quote from: Muzika on July 28, 2018, 09:10:55 AM

Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 07:15:54 PM

~snif~

This is the fact, ICO price drops because of the bounty hunters, imagine there are lots of participants in the bounty and they sell all their coins what would the effect of the actions in the market, of course it will become red.

What.? Are you sure of your statement? its seem you are also a bounty participant, you probably already know the total tokens allocated to bounty hunters only 1-3% of the total tokens sales and the more participants means the fewer tokens they get. and even then only a small portion that sells their token at the beginning of the token listed on exchange and for some others holding back, waiting until the market is completely stable because they do not want the they hard work get in vain
so what is possible if they cause the price drops in the market.? if even there affect thats only for a while

Herostorm

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In my opinion, because there are so many pennies in existence, they compete with each other so the supply is too great, but while the demand is small, the price of coins is constantly decreasing.

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 07:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

I believed your opinion or prediction was right in some aspect i.e the bounty hunters not be the reason behind ICO coins loose it value as soon it get listed on exchange. However, the price of coin during the ICO does not determine the bullish of the project in future because the team master plan determine that.

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Most of the reasons you all have indicated is clearly the reasons why the prices hit so low on exchange. But if the team behind projects are competent enough on what they're doing, they could bounce back the price. The problem is the team behind each scam projects are just focusing on and before the project is listed, and not minding what will happen after it hits exchange. Those all can be prevented if the project are well planned including the factors that would affect their coins/tokens AFTER it hits exchange. Right now, I still have faith on ICO projects based on the team behind them, currently I have been following EOT and MENLO.

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Big bonus from presale will make price down, airdrop will make price down, and of course bounty hunter will make price down. if u say 2-3% allocation for bounty hunter will not affect the price too much, then it's the whales who dump their bonus with a purpose to buyback in lower price. whales trigger, some stupid bounty hunter continue the dump.
yes 2-3% will not make big dump but they are who keep the price low for longer time

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 07:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

I believe any ico that offers more than 100% bonus can be considered as another scam ico. In fact he majority of private and pre-sale investors will always try to sell their coin when they get a little profit from there because they can earn it instantly.

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Quote from: MRlong on July 27, 2018, 07:22:45 PM

Of course, there are so many guys just wanna blame every mistake to bounty hunter while they didn't know anything. LOL. I don't think 1 - 2% of total supply amount can affect too much to price of any token. There are so many other factors affect to price of token from ICO project like down trend, whales, shark, investors,......but bounty hunter is always the target to be blamed. LOL.

I agree, it can never affect from 1-2% as of the allocation and I don't see any reason for the early birds to not sell after its a common thing and it surely will affect the value of the certain coin as they negate and deny the coins after buying it cheap. Another thing down trend won't affect too as long as the holders will support and won't sell less than the supposed price.

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Yes I agree with you, everyone knows huge bonus are key factors to price dump and that's more reason i don't participate in any ICO that gives bonus or any sort, also token lock up period can be a factor, if the lock up of team tokens is like 1 -3 months, after that they will start dumping, which will make the price to even go down the more.

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I totally agree with you - bonuses are very tricky, and generally threat the price of token on the first exchanges. Expected value of a token when entering the first exchange is lower because every investor will count in bonuses. Huge bonuses shift investment decisions of smart investors.

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The reason of the prices of ICO going down ca be debatable, however it is true that bounty hunters are not the one who are doing the dump as the allocation is very small in the market. It can be the investors for losing trust in the project or even whales and pump and dump group that would want to manipulate it as it is much easier to control than established cryptocurrencies. Also I think that bonuses does not contribute to the dump as the prices of the ICO is dictated by the community and investors that putted money into the project.

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Quote from: Handsome Boy on July 27, 2018, 07:15:54 PM

before I start this discussion, I apologize in advance if my opinion is wrong.

if I think who makes ICO coin price down is from these factors :

the ICO maker gives a huge bonus, for example the price of ICO 1 ETH = 100,000 coin X and bonuses earned by 50%, then he will get 150,000 coin X, so when coin X enter the exchange, the investor will sell at the price of 1 ETH = 130,000 coin X and he still get profit of 0.15384615 ETH, and if he buys as much as 10 ETH then he will get profit of 1.5384615 ETH and this is only a simulation if the bonus is 50%, so what if the ICO gives a bonus of 100-200%? then I am sure the price of the coin will be greatly decreased.

so I think a lot of people are wrong, who think the factor that makes ICO coins down is the bounty hunter, because the allocation given by the bounty hunter is only 1-3% of the coin sale, so it is unlikely to me from such a small allocation can make the coin price down very much.

this is my opinion, so if my opinion is wrong then i am very apologize to you guys.

That's a lot done by big profit hunters, giving 50% discount in first sale risky, if ICO done and put in stock with high price then profit to sell it with high price, big disposal and what happened? yes they forget it after fulfilling their needs once it's done, in a short period of time has been a disaster for the project developers, all the lessons for the ICO team to be more detailed in the marketing of a token / coin, maybe all will be back in control in the absence of errors be repeated.

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In my opinion, bounty hunters maybe partly fault but nit as a whole. Early investors might be the huge cause of coin dumping when listed on exchange. Majority of bounty hunters hold their token at least 3 months before they sell it.

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