Topic: Who moderates bitcoin-dev mailing list? - page 2. (Read 3865 times)

Yeah.. and how long are they going to wait?


It's not about a pride, but about the money.

You can't win it - UASF won't work, because the money is at the miner's side.
When you think about this, it's where the money come from.
Its going to stick to the mother

I have no idea about the mods but this point isn't right.


If miners do this then the exchanges can start waiting for many more confirmations, which will work as long as the attacking coalition is less than 50%

But what's most likely to happen is the miners will swallow their pride and set up their systems so they don't mine invalid blocks from the point of view of the new soft fork rules.

I'm reminded of that time soon after the first halvening when some miners patched their node to continue creating 50btc per block. Their blocks were rejected by everyone and they couldn't find a buyer for their newly-mined bitcoins, but instead of throwing a tantrum and trying to re-org the chain those miners just undid their patches and started mining 25btc blocks.

In bitcoin the miners work for the economic majority. If those two parties disagree then the economic majority always wins, because they are the ones who actually give value to the bitcoins by holding and trading them.

Yeah, like the guy who claims it will work had explained why.

It won't work -the guy is crazy. And if you believe it can work, your crazy as well.

I think the moment people have to explain why such ideas is crazy, would be the moment human race doesn't survive, ending up eaten by zombies.
I don't believe we are there yet.
And I like forums where I can just say it

Explain WHY it won't work. Just saying that it won't work with no additional reasoning as if you are some all-knowing power better than everyone else is not conducive to discussion. Explain WHY, give reasoning, give an argument.

How is it not constructive to say that their system just isn't going to work and all their further efforts do not have to be wasted?

It is true - trust me. For all I know I'm doing them a favour.

How otherwise should I be trying to say it?

Yeah. I would guess it isn't technical enough with enough specific, constructive content which was why it didn't go through.

Maybe ask on Freenode #bitcoin-dev to see who is modding it now.

This email should have what you want: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-October/011591.html

I don't think that list of moderators has changed.

I think the reason that your emails are being rejected is that you are not adding anything to the topic. Your posts are not constructive, you don't provide any reason except "You're stupid/wrong/insane". This is both toxic and not conducive to discussion, so your mails are being denied. You say that it won't work, but provide no additional reasoning or arguments to back up that statement. The mailing list is for discussion, so you have to have arguments that people can discuss, not just "You're wrong".

It's not the point.

I just want to know who controls it.
Why cant I say that UASF is a crazy idea?
But I can post a date for uasf..

You could try bitcoin-discuss instead.

Well, than I think its missing the mission.

I think you ran into a problem because bitcoin-dev is meant for serious discussion among developers. Anyone can post but off topic posts will probably be deleted. I have been reading the list for years but have never posted. Here are guidelines:



I have no idea who the moderator is sorry.

I remember Gavin Andresen saying that the serious bitcoin development debate is at the mailing list now, because the bitcointalk.org forum turned into something he didn't like anymore.

Personally I like bitcointalk forum. It was started by Satoshi himself and there is practically zero censorship here, even if you say to the mod that he's an idiot.
It's definitely my favourite bitcoin forum.

Anyway, I sometimes read the mailing list. Now they have this thread there, about the user activated soft fork:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04774.html
 
USAF against the miners majority - for anyone who knows about how bitcoin works, it's obviously a crazy idea.
But it's ok - kids should also have their time to speak and feel important, I really don't mind.
Except that the kids seem to be establishing some kind of cartel, where they don't want to listen to the adults anymore...

So here is the story from today.
This topic I mentioned before, there was this man saying:


So then I tried to answer:


Few minutes later I got the message from the mailing list:




OK... maybe he didn't like me swearing... lets try again with a more kids friendly syntax:


... few minutes later:


In case you missed it: "In the name of Wu, this post shall not pass."

Which brings me to the question:

Who moderates bitcoin-dev mailing list?
Why are the actual serious developers using this mailing list?
What is so special about it and who do I have to fuck to get my messages through?