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Topic: Who or what moron is buying dash at these prices (Read 3495 times)

legendary
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Here you go folks.

These are the reasons for the rise. No pumper "exit" nonsense, no "scam expansion", no....[fill in your favourite green-eyed imaginary scheme here].

Just plain old hard work, good design decisions and....essential ingredient....survival time Wink

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18215222
hero member
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I don't see anything wrong happening out there people are just taking advantage of the low market cap and that's totally allowed as bitcoin or even the altcoins were made to give profit to it's investors and currently it is doing that successfully. Even though it has gone too far we can't do anything about it.

No that's not why Bitcoin or altcoins were made. That's called a Ponzi scheme.

Amen.  However, it is indeed what crypto became.... unfortunately.
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I don't see anything wrong happening out there people are just taking advantage of the low market cap and that's totally allowed as bitcoin or even the altcoins were made to give profit to it's investors and currently it is doing that successfully. Even though it has gone too far we can't do anything about it.

No that's not why Bitcoin or altcoins were made. That's called a Ponzi scheme. Bitcoin was made to try to give privacy and control over money back to people, and freedom to make choices. For example, if I'm a grown adult and I work a job to make money why the hell should the government say I'm not allowed to gamble my own damn money on poker? That's BS. That's the kind of thing Bitcoin was made for. It's trying to set things right from corrupt government and corrupt laws. For example, the government is fine with lottery gambling, or gambling they approve because they get a cut, where the odds are often far worse.

That's just a small part of the story. The real story is about how inflation robs people of purchasing power. That's why people have been getting poorer since the 70's and the middle class has been shrinking. That's a long complex story so I won't go into it. The point is Bitcoin and altcoins are trying to make the world a better place. They are legitimately trying to help. People should make tons of money for inventing things that improve people's lives. That's capitalism. That doesn't look like what we have here with DASH, though. Instead DASH and possibly other coins I haven't researched yet may end up giving cryptocurrency a bad name and de-legitimzing the idea. That's not cool. Not at all.
hero member
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I don't see anything wrong happening out there people are just taking advantage of the low market cap and that's totally allowed as bitcoin or even the altcoins were made to give profit to it's investors and currently it is doing that successfully. Even though it has gone too far we can't do anything about it.
legendary
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Can you prove to me that any subset of those masternodes are not controlled by the same person?

Interesting how this question is yet to be answered Smiley

I also find it interesting that folks here jump all over Ripple calling it a centralized coin, even though node operators are free to choose any desired validators (which are not anonymous).

But these same people think that Dash is not centralized, but as a node operator you have no choice but to trust any masternode that has put up 1,000 Dash even when that masternode (and all other masternodes) are completely anonymous.

LOL!!!!
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But hey.. let's just put our little Monero blinders on and rail on about Dash right ?

Not at all. If there is a complaint about Monero let's hear that too. I'll certainly be looking into the history. A lot of people are not familiar with many of these coin's history, but the price rise is drawing more scrutiny.


And when you look at most of these coins + schemes they are *ALL* controlled by 1 entity.

No, they're not. Who controls Bitcoin? The community can't even decide on a simple change to increase capacity. Even Litecoin founder Charlie Lee is apparently having problems getting miners to accept SegWit.


Wanna talk about keys Dino ?

What about Github account passwords ?
And the fact that Github is FULLY 100% US govt compliant.

What's that supposed to mean? The government created TOR too (Navy). In fact, the Internet itself is based off a government project (DARPA). There are limits on what the government can do. As long as it's known what the government can and cannot do people can operate safely/anonymously. Open-source software means anyone can review the code. There are literally thousands of pairs of eyes on Bitcoin's code. There is no way the government could change code to compromise user privacy in a way nobody would soon find out about.


You guys spend all your time dancing around spotlighting 1 coin etc when 90% are the same.
THEN you have the nerve to accuse me of doing that.. when all i am doing is posting what i said above.

This is a thread about DASH, due to the price rise. As I said, nobody is stopping anybody listing complaints on other coins. If other coins are also problematic then they will become more exposed as they gain market attention too. That's how it works.
legendary
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where the hell is darkcoin now? if its better they should have more value today than dash.

 Grin  Funny joke.

DASH is just the new name for darkcoin, when the promotion machine realized that the dark in darkcoin was going to push away potential "investors".  Darkcoin was to get it going, the new feature was automatic mixing.  But then, better anon cryptography came out (cryptonote and zerocoin) and their anon feature was clunky.  So they changed communication strategy, and changed names.


ohhhh dashit! no wonder i couldn't find darkcoin on coinmarketcap.  Cheesy
they decided to take dark away and potential investors moved into them, seem a fair analysis actually. i can see why the price rise. seem like their team always have the way to blend with the new  technology.  kinda like Metallica that dresses hiphop and raps.dash team seem to be pretty effective though price speaks.
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where the hell is darkcoin now? if its better they should have more value today than dash.

 Grin  Funny joke.

DASH is just the new name for darkcoin, when the promotion machine realized that the dark in darkcoin was going to push away potential "investors".  Darkcoin was to get it going, the new feature was automatic mixing.  But then, better anon cryptography came out (cryptonote and zerocoin) and their anon feature was clunky.  So they changed communication strategy, and changed names.
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HODLing is an art, not just a word...
at this point only those who are newbies and panic buyers are buying Dash after this much pump because the rest of us know very well how risky this is to buy it after the huge rise and when the price entered a bubble!
legendary
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bitcoin price is already $1200 and yet people are still buying it.  DASH is less than 10% of its price. why not buy?


If the DASH people were serious, they should have taken the DRK code, and started a new coin from scratch, called it DASH without the Darkcoin instamine legacy.


where the hell is darkcoin now? if its better they should have more value today than dash. dev team always have the crappiest fud to spread when they know their coins has less value.
legendary
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Juicin' crypto
90% of trading is bots on these big boy coins.  it's messed cos they are so manipulated and controlled by those that have the most.

sadly a legit/fair coin like WBB with REAL work and business applications about to become real very soon see no $ into them. fucked.
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If the DASH people were serious, they should have taken the DRK code, and started a new coin from scratch, called it DASH without the Darkcoin instamine legacy.
legendary
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Dash added by BTC-e
Dash added by xBTCe
Dash added by Wall of Coins
Dash added by soft wallet providers like Myceleum, Jaxx, Coinomi, Exodus
Dash added by ATM providers like General Bytes, TigoCTM, Lamassu,
Dash getting 5 ASIC miners
Dash added by several hard wallet providers (KeepKey, Ledger Nano S, Trezor)
Dash added by Living Room of Satoshi (who dropped ETH, LTC, & DOGE by the way)
Dash created its own LocalBitcoin.com
Dash added back again by Bitfinex
Dash added as debitcard by Shakepay, Spectrocoin, Bitwala, Wirex, Uquid
Dash created its own BitPay service
Dash successfully hardforked into v12.1
Dash successfully surviving its first major DDoS attack on its masternode network
Dash accelerating its next major update named Dash Evolution, Alpha to be released in a few months (mid summer)

These are all telltale signs..

@qwizzie it seems obvious you're interested in promoting DASH. I'm curious to hear your view about this coin's history. Do you think the founder(s) instamined around 1.5 million coins or not? If so, don't you think that's a bad thing for the overall market?

Its a fact that Dash has an instamine history, this has never been denied. Official statements from Dash about the instamine go all the way back to 2014 but you have to realise that Dash
Founders were not the only people mining at the time and massive amounts of Dash were sold off on the markets early on as people did not see any value in it.

Here are some links that are dealing with the instamine history of Dash :

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification

With regards to your last question :

Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Its really up to the individual investor to decide if Dash instamine history from more then three years ago should still play a role or not.
Dash community has long long long ago moved on.
Dash instamine history has no influence on the market whatsoever (Dash has price and marketcap increase every single year, from its first year to its current year)

"realise that Dash  Founders were not the only people mining at the time" - 40 Amazon instances and 40 Microsoft ones instamining the shit out of it. The windows wallet was not available at the moment and neither the roadmap.

"and massive amounts of Dash were sold off on the markets early" - That carrot looking motherfucker (Duffbar) never sold a Dash out of his >1M instamine. He knew exactly what he was doing, as seen in the masternode implementation that came shortly after. On top of the 45% that was/is taken by his instamine every day, the Carrot even had the cojones to ask for an additional 10% for development.

"Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?" - LMFAO
hero member
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Ps I've never touched your ponzi Dashit and never will.

I won't say that I never had DASH.  I bought a few DASH 2 years ago (less than 10 coins) and I couldn't use darkmix, so I sold them.  Now, I'm not touching it with a stick. 
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Out of the 4014 masternodes currently active .. can you tell me which one is mine ?
Can you prove to me that any subset of those masternodes are not controlled by the same person?
please answer my question

Sure, I'll answer (because I'm not trying to be evasive). No, I can't tell which masternode is yours. But I also cannot tell how many masternodes you own. For all I know, you own ALL the masternodes. Because with Dash masternodes are anonymous. Now I will ask my question again:

How do you prove that any subset of the masternodes are not controlled by the same person?





Epic fail. Can't tell him which masternode is his LOL

legendary
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No, it makes him a fraud, and his ponzi shitcoin a scam.

If it works out for him, he's a genius.  Nobody's obliged to buy what so ever any DASH.  He didn't sign any contract with anybody.  The facts are out there.  If he can still obtain your money, that's what I call a genius.  He's not promising anything.  People just come and buy his coin.  He sells it. 
No, a genius is someone who uses their intellect to bring something to humanity. Not a crook who deceived for profit. Read up about Ponzi schemes because that's all Dash is.

Ps I've never touched your ponzi Dashit and never will.
hero member
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No, it makes him a fraud, and his ponzi shitcoin a scam.

If it works out for him, he's a genius.  Nobody's obliged to buy what so ever any DASH.  He didn't sign any contract with anybody.  The facts are out there.  If he can still obtain your money, that's what I call a genius.  He's not promising anything.  People just come and buy his coin.  He sells it. 
hero member
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The problem is that nobody knows when they can just sell all and drive the price back to what it was months ago, or maybe even under that amount.

There are many investors at the moment coming in and buying as much as they can. In case this happens and turns out for Dash to be an actual scam, it would be a disaster for a lot of people. We have to be very careful about it.. I have seen tweets from important people saying that were saying a dump is incoming, it's not about if but when.

He's not crazy and crash the market.  I would very, very slowly dump small amounts of coins, but keep the price high enough for "young blood" to come in.  When he will be done, he can hire Bill Gates as butler.
legendary
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A genius who made an 'accidental' mistake instamining 2 million+ coins for himself upon launching his shitcoin.

... and shoved it down a lot of people who pay a lot of money for it with which he buys propaganda for even more.  That's what makes him a genius.  Not many people can pull that off.

No, it makes him a fraud, and his ponzi shitcoin a scam.
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