Topic: Who really fought the Nazis (Read 274 times)

Russians were always the real Nazis. They wanted to conquer and annihilate their neighbours.
Never mind the Orwellian lies their propaganda was spreading since 1918.

What they are doing in Ukraine is clear genocide, depopulation, and an imperialist land grab.

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You forgot to note that the maroon line for Poland on the chart, is longer than the line for Ukraine. Yet Ukraine has over a million more dead listed in the numbers. The point is, did Synchronice use Excel or OpenOffice to make the chart?

Note that the reason for WW2 is the same as the reason for the Ukraine war. What is that reason? Like Germany in WW2, Russia is trying to be free of the world banking system that is conquering the world. This banking system has already conquered the US, Nato, and much of the rest of the world. Russia, like Germany in WW2, simply wants to remain free. Too bad Hitler and his Nazi's went nuts. If they hadn't, they might have won, and we all might be a lot freer from the banks.

To be honest, Ukraine is overly romanticized by the world.
Relative to its population size, Belarus was the one that took the most loses. Poland is a country with very tortured past too and yeah, Ukraine but the ww2 was truly fought by the whole USSR and almost every former-soviet union country has sacrificed their men for this war. If it wasn't USSR, a lot of them would be neutral and try not to participate.
I think when it comes to Russia, Ukraine and Germany, true nazis for Ukrainians were and are Russians because of The Holocaust in Ukraine and because of current war.
Here is the statistics by the way:

One of the major reasons for the war is that Ukraine and Russia were always moving towards togetherness among the common people. The West can't take this, because it's a push-back against their One-World-Government ideals... ideals that are in the form of old USSR expansion, if not in they mode or style of the USSR. But there are always those in both Russia and Ukraine who want to rule their own country without the other.

Russia wasn't in a real, do-or-die fighting mode. They are being pushed towards that by the West interfering in Ukraine. Without the West, Ukraine is simply in a 'Die' mode. At least at this stage of the game.

The point is that any nation that has the ability to fight, if it fights with all its strength in forceful do-or-die fashion, can often beat many other nations that it normally wouldn't succeed against.

The people of Ukraine are essentially dead as far as their effectiveness. Any effectiveness that they have in the future will only be US and Nato effectiveness.

The West is not in do-or-die mode. At least not the people. In fact, the people are starting to become vocal in their protesting against West involvement in Ukraine.

Russia, on the other hand, is a united nation - even if there are those who don't like certain aspects of their country or government. They aren't in a do-or-die mode yet, but the West is pushing them in that direction more and more. If they ever get into that mode, they will sweep across Europe something like the hordes of Genghis Khan. Nothing will stop them. Not even nukes, especially since they can fight back with nukes.

Ukraine's Contribution to Victory in World War II Is Unsurpassed

Ukraine paid the biggest price for victory in the Second World War. As a vital contributor to the Red Army and a key provider of industrial resources in the USSR, Ukraine incurred the largest number of casualties during WWII. Russia has claimed the victory for itself and has officially denied the Ukrainian role in the fight against the Nazis.

The real number of victims during WWII is still not fully known. Some relevant data is still held in Russian archives and is not available for non-Russian researchers. However, of the 41.7 million people living in Ukrainian Soviet Republic before the war, only 27.4 million were alive in Ukraine in 1945. Official data says that at least 8 million Ukrainians lost their lives: 5.5 - 6 million civilians, and more than 2.5 million natives of Ukraine were killed at the front. The data varies between 8 to 14 million killed, however, only 6 million have been identified.

Remarkably, in December 2010, the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin mentioned in an interview that the Soviet Union could have won the Second World War without Ukrainian forces. “We would definitely have won without Ukraine as a member of USSR, because we are the “winner state.” The war was won because of Russian industrial resources” he claimed.

The contribution of Ukrainians to victory in World War II was not just limited to the 7 million Ukrainian soldiers in the Red Army. Hundreds of Ukrainians also served as generals and commanders. The flag of victory over the Reichstag was first raised by a Ukrainian from Sumy, Alex Berest. In addition, about 2.5 million Ukrainians received commendations and were awarded with medals by the Soviet Union.

Ukraine was also the largest contributor to the industrial resources of the USSR. Before the war, the Ukrainian SSR was a leading center for metals and mining, chemical production, tractors, and agricultural machinery. In 1940, Ukrainian mechanical engineers built 671 line-haul locomotives (73.4 percent of all-Union production) and 16 thousand tons of mining and metallurgical equipment (67.5 percent).