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Topic: Who to Trust, Fiat Banks or BTC? - page 3. (Read 2207 times)

hero member
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July 30, 2021, 11:49:52 PM
I trust both Bitcoin and Banks.Bitcoin is the perfect alternative to banking, but that's very unlikely because the government won't allow.We cannot put all our trust in banks but we must use them.Banking is a part of our lives, it would be very difficult without fiat, banks.How to trade bitcoin without fiat? Can we buy 1 coffee with bitcoin and pay extra transaction fee for each coffee and wait for transaction confirmation to get 1 coffee? ,with fiat it's easier.

I wouldn't say it is the perfect alternative to banking yet. We are far from critical mass in terms of user numbers and user profiles. It is not like you can freely transact on a daily basis with everybody because by far not everybody has Bitcoin nor wants to transact with it because of the high fees. That might change in the future.

The store of value argument also doesn't fully hold true because there is too much volatility, potentially making your money put into bitcoin unavailable unless you are willing to use it at a loss. Banks still fulfill several very important functions and we are quite a bit away from having a strong banking substitute.
legendary
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July 30, 2021, 11:07:34 PM
I trust both Bitcoin and Banks.Bitcoin is the perfect alternative to banking, but that's very unlikely because the government won't allow.We cannot put all our trust in banks but we must use them.Banking is a part of our lives, it would be very difficult without fiat, banks.How to trade bitcoin without fiat? Can we buy 1 coffee with bitcoin and pay extra transaction fee for each coffee and wait for transaction confirmation to get 1 coffee? ,with fiat it's easier.
full member
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July 30, 2021, 09:26:05 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Bank charges are high, compare to that of Bitcoin, and also Bitcoin operates on an decentralized system. No organization or Government control's it. When you keep your money in Banks, no interest is added to it, instead, banks collects their charges from the money. I also prefer Bitcoin. Is very secure, and also have low fees.

Those of us who know bitcoin will of course transfer all the money in the bank to a trusted wallet, the most important factor is that we don't get anything when we save it in banks, maybe only 6% per year, while bitcoin can get big profits up to hundreds of percent per year
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XIRCUS
July 30, 2021, 10:31:01 PM
Both are trustworthy.  But saving a lot of money in the bank makes us uneasy.  Because they always bother us by asking questions about our money.  While buying bitcoin, it makes us calmer and no one disturbs us and most importantly the price of bitcoin continues to rise.
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July 30, 2021, 06:23:23 PM
wise choice. After all, we can't be completely separated from the bank because all the ease of transactions and its very wide adoption make our lives easier. on the other hand, bitcoin is still limited in its use at this time, especially in many countries that prohibit its use as a means of payment, even though its other functions as an investment tool and trading commodity have been granted permission.
so please adjust it according to our individual needs, we don't have to choose one, right? just use both to maximize the function of each other.
True, we don't have to choose only one, but if we keep on depending on fiat, bitcoin or cryptocurrencies won't be able to go mainstream. And who told you bitcoin is illegal in many countries? As far as I know only few selected countries have made bitcoin illegal (most of them are third world country with corrupted governments), while rest are welcome the modern currency.
Bank charges are high, compare to that of Bitcoin, and also Bitcoin operates on an decentralized system. No organization or Government control's it. When you keep your money in Banks, no interest is added to it, instead, banks collects their charges from the money. I also prefer Bitcoin. Is very secure, and also have low fees.
Lol, have you looked at the fees when the network is under heavy traffic? It's insane. Pay high fee or wait forever for a confirmation.
sr. member
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July 30, 2021, 04:55:13 PM
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I myself believe in both. I use both to save money.
I separate the money needs in the bank and savings in other banks. and I always leave the money I make in real-world work to increase capital in the crypto market.
wise choice. After all, we can't be completely separated from the bank because all the ease of transactions and its very wide adoption make our lives easier. on the other hand, bitcoin is still limited in its use at this time, especially in many countries that prohibit its use as a means of payment, even though its other functions as an investment tool and trading commodity have been granted permission.
so please adjust it according to our individual needs, we don't have to choose one, right? just use both to maximize the function of each other.
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July 30, 2021, 10:05:43 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Bank charges are high, compare to that of Bitcoin, and also Bitcoin operates on an decentralized system. No organization or Government control's it. When you keep your money in Banks, no interest is added to it, instead, banks collects their charges from the money. I also prefer Bitcoin. Is very secure, and also have low fees.

Those of us who know bitcoin will of course transfer all the money in the bank to a trusted wallet, the most important factor is that we don't get anything when we save it in banks, maybe only 6% per year, while bitcoin can get big profits up to hundreds of percent per year
transferring everything is a less wise choice. be careful in making your choice. even with trusted assets, you can get losses.
because putting all of our money into the crypto market is like making all of our money for our working capital. whether day trading or a long-term investment.

I myself believe in both. I use both to save money.
I separate the money needs in the bank and savings in other banks. and I always leave the money I make in real-world work to increase capital in the crypto market.
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July 30, 2021, 09:53:45 AM
These financial institutions have to stay in business to pay their staff and remain in operation this defines the charges they deduct for SMS and mobile banking transactions just that once in a while they overdo the tariff they deduct from their customers.
jr. member
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July 30, 2021, 09:34:22 AM
I've made big % profits its cryptos over the years. But also my opinion is that no one should risk their safety when investing online.
A lot of people will want to invest 1 time or 2 times, big cash ammounts into crypto. And then expect an even bigger result.
This is not very accurate to be honest, you can invest whenever and how much you want , and aswell convert it into fiat when it rockets a few hundred %.
Like in 2018-19 when it dipped to 2k$ usd , i know a lot of people thought they lost their money but after just a few months it rocketed again.
legendary
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July 30, 2021, 08:32:12 AM
Banks will be involved for a very long time even if crypto were to take over slowly. When merchants accept Bitcoin I think they usually immediately convert it into fiat, hence banks are involved in the process no matter what. A truly Bitcoin-based economy is decades away I would say. I might be wrong of course, but I just can't think of a scenario where in ten years time we'll be without bank accounts and with Bitcoin wallets only.

Banks aren't going anywhere. Fiat is still "king" when it comes to paying for goods and services in the mainstream world. The number of merchants and businesses accepting Fiat currencies are far greater than those who accept Bitcoin as payment method. People seem to trust banks with their Fiat more than Bitcoin, because the former is stable and backed by the government. A decentralized cryptocurrency like Bitcoin makes people skeptical since there's no regulating or issuing authority that would give it a certain level of legitimacy. Fiat will eventually shift from paper to digital as banks take advantage of crypto/Blockchain tech. Trust into banks will never be gone, but Bitcoin will always be there for those who need it the most. Just my opinion Smiley
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July 29, 2021, 06:56:53 PM
I trust above all , Fiat , bank and cryptocurrency but in my country, people only few amount know about cryptocurrencies and in market all daily commudities exchanges with Fiat and banks card. But cryptocurrencies fully a illegal source. So for my child and wife life better safety I reserve some Fiat in a Bank for future . Others all my assets into cryptocurrencies .
hero member
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July 29, 2021, 04:59:35 PM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
we let our money use by the bank when we put it there.  banks cannot be trusted, trusting them will only make us lose, trusting Bitcoin is much better because its value will continue to increase and will not hurt when we have a strong hand.


Lots of ups and downs are there in safe guarding our money in banks. Besides the discussion, its currently the bank, where the majority almost to 99.99 percent of people have to rely on the banks and trust them. We believe in BTC and yes we do earn and save in wallets. However, that's converted into our local currency and that money has to fall into a bank account to take them off.

Banks will be involved for a very long time even if crypto were to take over slowly. When merchants accept Bitcoin I think they usually immediately convert it into fiat, hence banks are involved in the process no matter what. A truly Bitcoin-based economy is decades away I would say. I might be wrong of course, but I just can't think of a scenario where in ten years time we'll be without bank accounts and with Bitcoin wallets only.
Take over slowly is something that we cant just really able to see in the future.Crypto might progress or become mainstream but it would never overtake banks no matter what.

People would still trust banks no matter what and would accumulate fiat as much as they can even they are heavily believing with crypto investments and that's a fact.

We do have different decisions and perception in between things.Therefore, this is just really depending on personal preference.
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July 29, 2021, 03:48:53 PM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
we let our money use by the bank when we put it there.  banks cannot be trusted, trusting them will only make us lose, trusting Bitcoin is much better because its value will continue to increase and will not hurt when we have a strong hand.


Lots of ups and downs are there in safe guarding our money in banks. Besides the discussion, its currently the bank, where the majority almost to 99.99 percent of people have to rely on the banks and trust them. We believe in BTC and yes we do earn and save in wallets. However, that's converted into our local currency and that money has to fall into a bank account to take them off.

Banks will be involved for a very long time even if crypto were to take over slowly. When merchants accept Bitcoin I think they usually immediately convert it into fiat, hence banks are involved in the process no matter what. A truly Bitcoin-based economy is decades away I would say. I might be wrong of course, but I just can't think of a scenario where in ten years time we'll be without bank accounts and with Bitcoin wallets only.
sr. member
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July 29, 2021, 12:31:05 PM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
we let our money use by the bank when we put it there.  banks cannot be trusted, trusting them will only make us lose, trusting Bitcoin is much better because its value will continue to increase and will not hurt when we have a strong hand.


Lots of ups and downs are there in safe guarding our money in banks. Besides the discussion, its currently the bank, where the majority almost to 99.99 percent of people have to rely on the banks and trust them. We believe in BTC and yes we do earn and save in wallets. However, that's converted into our local currency and that money has to fall into a bank account to take them off.
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July 29, 2021, 12:11:10 PM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
we let our money use by the bank when we put it there.  banks cannot be trusted, trusting them will only make us lose, trusting Bitcoin is much better because its value will continue to increase and will not hurt when we have a strong hand.
hero member
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July 29, 2021, 11:47:06 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Yes bitcoin is a very good currency to hold for a long time fiat banks are controlled by the government and the government controls as it wishes. The government gets taxes from here but bitcoin is not under anyone's control investors manage to invest as they wish.
The government will never lose control of fiat as they have the central bank to create money, and don't forget that even if bitcoin is decentralized, but if we seek for it to be regulated, then we are asking the government to tax use bitcoin and crypto users, therefore, they are still in control of us.

Yes, taxes are the tool with the most leverage the government has. They do have to justify their law making in front of independent courts though. It is not like they could just charge a 90% tax on crypto transactions. In democratic states they have to undergo a process, too, before they can establish extra hard regulations for any asset class. They have to justify that. When they raise taxes on cigarettes, that's not that hard. But when it comes to crypto they have to prove their arguments and provide reason for their intended actions.

If they can't control regulation on crypto, then they will discourage people from using crypto. As people are looking for investment and an alternative way of transacting online, we can't deny that sometimes we were able to do away with our taxes obligation, so here comes the strict regulation and the government will ensure that everyone will pay as taxes are the lifeblood of a country.

But that is phrased way too general. Yes taxes are the lifeblood of a country, but only to a certain degree. The equation is not the more taxes equals the more lifeblood. If you have a brand new technology like Bitcoin you can also approach it from another angle and in fact become the leading nation in the world welcoming all the blockchain talent to work within your country. If you raise taxes everywhere and make it hard for crypto to thrive, you will ultimately be left behind.
legendary
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July 27, 2021, 07:19:01 AM
The issue of Trust is not only evident in relationships, it is applicable in our daily endeavours. People are more committed to system they trust than the one they don't trust. Even in this forum, you can easily do business with someone with a positive trust than one with a negative trust.

As the saying goes "wherever ones treasure is, there his soul is". So, in this article we would try to establish if ;
1. If people have fallen out of Trust with the Traditional banking system.
2. If people can trust BTC than banks.

Discussing issues 1. I'll use myself as a case study;
Most times I would feel cheated by my banks even when I have no evidence to prove same. I always have this feeling that a bank with over 3million customers can decide to deduce 0.5cents from each customers account without sending them alert. The customers may also not notice because the figure is small. Multiplying 0.5cents by 3m customers will give you $1.5m. I don't know why I always believe there are hidden charges in the traditional banking system.

Secondly, data management: I know of few companies that pay hugely in order to know how people spend their money, on which products, which days and which class of people spends much.
This company can quietly walk to the bank and get these information. They will pay the bank, and our data would be released to them without our consent. Because, with debit cards, how often you visit the grocery can be determined, etc.. I also feel cheated here.
Further; information privacy is another concern of mine. In most cases, the bank can give out your bank statements or any other salient information of yours to the government or public without your consent.
Considering my above worries, the issue of trust in the context is therefore not limited to trusting your bank to save your money, but also trusting them with your personal data.

On this premise I created a poll to know if we still trust the traditional banking system or we would rather trust the BTC (self bank).

I've used to trust banks way before Bitcoin came into existence. After seeing many cases of banks' manipulation and corruption, I've decided to look for an exit route to the current monetary system. Ever since I've discovered Bitcoin in 2014, I've never looked back. I still use a bank to store my Fiat money, but most of my capital is on crypto. With inflation hitting existing Fiat currencies, there's more reason to buy and "hodl" Bitcoin for the long term. People are starting to realize the true benefits of crypto/Blockchain tech, so it should only be a matter of time before banks lose traction in the mainstream world.

ultimately, a person will decide which system to trust for the long-term preservation of wealth. Not everyone will find Bitcoin attractive, as it's highly volatile in price. Keep in mind that most businesses and merchants accept Fiat on top of crypto. You don't need to "trust" Bitcoin, since everything is recorded on the Blockchain ledger. There's a reason why Blockchain's motto is "Don't trust, verify". It may never replace banks, but it'll be a nice alternative for those looking into sound money that will help them in times of need. As long as Bitcoin remains decentralized, nothing else matters. Just my thoughts Grin
sr. member
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July 27, 2021, 01:41:14 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Bank charges are high, compare to that of Bitcoin, and also Bitcoin operates on an decentralized system. No organization or Government control's it. When you keep your money in Banks, no interest is added to it, instead, banks collects their charges from the money. I also prefer Bitcoin. Is very secure, and also have low fees.
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July 26, 2021, 01:34:42 PM
I don't trust bank with my data not at all, I only trust them with my money to a certain point in which I believe my funds is safe with them, the local banks are cheaters, most times I get debit for small fees I really don't know about, imagine them charging all of their customers with this little amount it turns out to fetch them a lot of money and in the case of data, our privacy is bridge by banks because there can easily give our data out to government officials, if not there is no way EFCC will get to know that a customer has so much funds in his account without the bank assistance
newbie
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July 26, 2021, 01:03:29 PM
In the case of transfer of money, bitcoin is better than the fiat money with the increase in the price of bitcoin, the transfer amount will also increase with it. But it will still be cheaper compare to fiat curency.
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