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Topic: Who to Trust, Fiat Banks or BTC? - page 4. (Read 2207 times)

legendary
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July 26, 2021, 09:06:30 AM
Trust fiat to banks and btc to your crypto wallets. Each currency has its own purpose.
Exactly, I wonder if someone could live a normal life if he only has bitcoin as his money, there's no massive adoption for bitcoin yet and you can't just make transactions for a small amount as it's not instant and the fees are high. The real status of our world now is fiat is still adopted more and I think it will not change in the future as bitcoin will continue to be an alternative currency only.
legendary
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July 26, 2021, 06:15:12 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Yes bitcoin is a very good currency to hold for a long time fiat banks are controlled by the government and the government controls as it wishes. The government gets taxes from here but bitcoin is not under anyone's control investors manage to invest as they wish.
The government will never lose control of fiat as they have the central bank to create money, and don't forget that even if bitcoin is decentralized, but if we seek for it to be regulated, then we are asking the government to tax use bitcoin and crypto users, therefore, they are still in control of us.

Yes, taxes are the tool with the most leverage the government has. They do have to justify their law making in front of independent courts though. It is not like they could just charge a 90% tax on crypto transactions. In democratic states they have to undergo a process, too, before they can establish extra hard regulations for any asset class. They have to justify that. When they raise taxes on cigarettes, that's not that hard. But when it comes to crypto they have to prove their arguments and provide reason for their intended actions.

If they can't control regulation on crypto, then they will discourage people from using crypto. As people are looking for investment and an alternative way of transacting online, we can't deny that sometimes we were able to do away with our taxes obligation, so here comes the strict regulation and the government will ensure that everyone will pay as taxes are the lifeblood of a country.
sr. member
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July 26, 2021, 03:44:46 AM
I'm always sacred keeping my hard earned money in a bank because I know it won't remain the same as I kept it. Not that it would increase but it would have decreased by an annoying sum over time. I would rather invest in bitcoin where I know that I could make profits with my cash, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down I am rest assured it will come up later.

Now about my data. Really I don't know who to trust with that. Banks that suddenly close down lose data. One way or the other to say that they sell the data. Thats very possible. Also crypto companies can't really be banked on to be exclusive about your information about you.

That is quite the naive opinion. Saying that you invest in Bitcoin to increase your money sounds like if it were guaranteed that that is going to happen. Sure you have the devaluation due to inflation in a normal bank, but it is still quite a safe place to keep your money. Also, what you have in a bank is often also the money you need on a daily basis. Not a good idea to put money into Bitcoin that you might need in a week from now because Bitcoin might fall by 20% over the course of a week.
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July 25, 2021, 07:34:07 AM
I'm always sacred keeping my hard earned money in a bank because I know it won't remain the same as I kept it. Not that it would increase but it would have decreased by an annoying sum over time. I would rather invest in bitcoin where I know that I could make profits with my cash, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down I am rest assured it will come up later.

Now about my data. Really I don't know who to trust with that. Banks that suddenly close down lose data. One way or the other to say that they sell the data. Thats very possible. Also crypto companies can't really be banked on to be exclusive about your information about you.
sr. member
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1xbit.com
July 24, 2021, 05:21:45 AM
Before, most of my savings or money is in my bank account. But starting last year, I am slowly moving them on-chain, especially in Bitcoin.
What money left in my bank is the money that I can easily access if I want or need money immediately, so it is considered a very small amount for me.
By that, I am showing that I can't trust the bank to hold my money, I rather hold it by myself, by keeping my private keys myself.

Yes that’s the most common answer that all the users will now claim.
Earlier when we don’t had option to save our money, we were bound to use the Bank.
But as now we are have many options, so yes it’s time to leave the hands of hands.
We due to BTC have now became independent and were free to use our money whenever we can.
Waiting for community members replies regarding this.
sr. member
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July 24, 2021, 05:15:59 AM
I believe in both but I trust Bitcoin more. I still need a fiat bank because I still transact with my clients using fiat
btw, the thing I don't like the most from bank is that they always ask questions which I don't think are important when I want to send a large amount of money

Bitcoin is different because we don't use third parties to make transactions, we can send large amounts of money anytime and anywhere
Bitcoin is a miracle
I also agree with you, but I want to acknowledge Fiat as a trusted bank because Fiat is controlled by the government and also because fiat uses a centralized financial system and can be regulated differently from bitcoin which uses a decentralized system that cannot be controlled by anyone to be printed at will.
that's the reason i trust bitcoin more

Both systems in their current form have their advantages and disadvantages. Depending on how well you can deal with technology you may prefer one over another. I think it is still cumbersome to hold Bitcoin securely and transact with it perhaps on a daily basis. Maybe not for the younger people who grew up with their iPhones, but for many others it's still complicated to handle. For them banks are the better option for now.
hero member
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July 24, 2021, 01:05:43 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Yes bitcoin is a very good currency to hold for a long time fiat banks are controlled by the government and the government controls as it wishes. The government gets taxes from here but bitcoin is not under anyone's control investors manage to invest as they wish.
The government will never lose control of fiat as they have the central bank to create money, and don't forget that even if bitcoin is decentralized, but if we seek for it to be regulated, then we are asking the government to tax use bitcoin and crypto users, therefore, they are still in control of us.

Yes, taxes are the tool with the most leverage the government has. They do have to justify their law making in front of independent courts though. It is not like they could just charge a 90% tax on crypto transactions. In democratic states they have to undergo a process, too, before they can establish extra hard regulations for any asset class. They have to justify that. When they raise taxes on cigarettes, that's not that hard. But when it comes to crypto they have to prove their arguments and provide reason for their intended actions.
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July 24, 2021, 12:43:35 AM
I believe in both but I trust Bitcoin more. I still need a fiat bank because I still transact with my clients using fiat
btw, the thing I don't like the most from bank is that they always ask questions which I don't think are important when I want to send a large amount of money

Bitcoin is different because we don't use third parties to make transactions, we can send large amounts of money anytime and anywhere
Bitcoin is a miracle
I also agree with you, but I want to acknowledge Fiat as a trusted bank because Fiat is controlled by the government and also because fiat uses a centralized financial system and can be regulated differently from bitcoin which uses a decentralized system that cannot be controlled by anyone to be printed at will.
that's the reason i trust bitcoin more
full member
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July 23, 2021, 01:12:26 PM
I believe in both but I trust Bitcoin more. I still need a fiat bank because I still transact with my clients using fiat
btw, the thing I don't like the most from bank is that they always ask questions which I don't think are important when I want to send a large amount of money

Bitcoin is different because we don't use third parties to make transactions, we can send large amounts of money anytime and anywhere
Bitcoin is a miracle
legendary
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Hhampuz for Campaign management
July 23, 2021, 11:11:40 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Yes bitcoin is a very good currency to hold for a long time fiat banks are controlled by the government and the government controls as it wishes. The government gets taxes from here but bitcoin is not under anyone's control investors manage to invest as they wish.
The government will never lose control of fiat as they have the central bank to create money, and don't forget that even if bitcoin is decentralized, but if we seek for it to be regulated, then we are asking the government to tax use bitcoin and crypto users, therefore, they are still in control of us.
hero member
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July 23, 2021, 02:07:55 AM
The issue of Trust is not only evident in relationships, it is applicable in our daily endeavours. People are more committed to system they trust than the one they don't trust. Even in this forum, you can easily do business with someone with a positive trust than one with a negative trust.

As the saying goes "wherever ones treasure is, there his soul is". So, in this article we would try to establish if ;
1. If people have fallen out of Trust with the Traditional banking system.
2. If people can trust BTC than banks.

Discussing issues 1. I'll use myself as a case study;
Most times I would feel cheated by my banks even when I have no evidence to prove same. I always have this feeling that a bank with over 3million customers can decide to deduce 0.5cents from each customers account without sending them alert. The customers may also not notice because the figure is small. Multiplying 0.5cents by 3m customers will give you $1.5m. I don't know why I always believe there are hidden charges in the traditional banking system.

Secondly, data management: I know of few companies that pay hugely in order to know how people spend their money, on which products, which days and which class of people spends much.
This company can quietly walk to the bank and get these information. They will pay the bank, and our data would be released to them without our consent. Because, with debit cards, how often you visit the grocery can be determined, etc.. I also feel cheated here.
Further; information privacy is another concern of mine. In most cases, the bank can give out your bank statements or any other salient information of yours to the government or public without your consent.
Considering my above worries, the issue of trust in the context is therefore not limited to trusting your bank to save your money, but also trusting them with your personal data.

On this premise I created a poll to know if we still trust the traditional banking system or we would rather trust the BTC (self bank).

You are right and all this points cannot be totally ruled out of what can happen to your accounts balance/information at the Bank. The first scenario you mentioned actually happened in a my Bank but not directly by the Bank but from a staff of the Bank how have been withdrawing small amounts like that from customers accounts for a long time before it was discovered and the staff was arrested and confessed to it but what happens if it was the bank's themselves involved?
Even when we don't have that full trust for Bank's, most times we do not have the option but to continue to deal with banks until we have more and more places to spend Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies directly.
sr. member
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July 22, 2021, 11:29:41 PM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
Yes bitcoin is a very good currency to hold for a long time fiat banks are controlled by the government and the government controls as it wishes. The government gets taxes from here but bitcoin is not under anyone's control investors manage to invest as they wish.
full member
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July 22, 2021, 07:46:04 PM

At the moment I have to trust the bank. Because within the scope of the law, it protects the safety of my funds. But I don’t believe it completely. I turned part of my assets into Bitcoin. I can switch freely when my friends need funds without being regulated by the country and bank regulations.
In some point you are right. Many people used BTC then switch when they need to.  
It was decentralized and BTC fluctuates.
But they are useful in many ways so even though we can't trust them we need to take a risk on it.

hero member
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July 22, 2021, 05:25:59 PM
I don’t trust banks majorly because of the way they function. I’d like to know that whenever I put my money on a bank account it’s going to stay there, but the idea of my money circulating and being used for other purposes makes it look like an unsafe place.

Certain miscalculations and greed, that makes banks lure customers into taking loans may result in bankruptcy, and your money will be gone just like that.

I’m okay with receiving a salary via bank and storing the monthly allowance there, but I most certainly won’t store there my savings. For that purpose, I have much more trust in Bitcoin.
sr. member
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July 22, 2021, 04:59:55 PM
why choose, aren't bitcoin and fiat as important as fiat is important for daily transactions and bitcoin is more precisely used as an asset for the future so in my opinion to choose between bitcoin and fiat depends on the holder whether to invest or to spend for basic needs.
maybe in general what you say can be said that bitcoin and fiat are equally important, I agree with that. although maybe its use and form are very different because bitcoin does not have a form while fiat is still in shape but its use is clearly the same, it can be used as a trade and exchange with what we need.

but the two are so different that it is appropriate not to make comparisons but rather to support each other. where of course there is a shortage of fiat and bitcoin can work there and vice versa if fiat is not able to do then bitcoin will be able to solve it. This is clearly a much-needed cooperation between the two.

I agree it's best not to compare fiat and Bitcoin, because I agree the existence of the two is very important and can complement each other.
As fiat is needed for small transactions, and areas that do not yet have internet access are in dire need of fiat to conduct financial transactions.
While Bitcoin can be an alternative to sending money abroad, which is faster and cheaper than fiat. Bitcoin is also very good as a store of value
compared to fiat, the conclusion is either fiat or Bitcoin has advantages and disadvantages. So it is better that fiat and Bitcoin co-exist.
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July 22, 2021, 07:41:57 AM
Fiat Banks is good, but our money has no interest. While every year inflation occurs. That's why I prefer bitcoin, apart from being flexible and fast. Bitcoin value continue to rise if we keep a long time.
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July 22, 2021, 04:12:35 AM
why choose, aren't bitcoin and fiat as important as fiat is important for daily transactions and bitcoin is more precisely used as an asset for the future so in my opinion to choose between bitcoin and fiat depends on the holder whether to invest or to spend for basic needs.
maybe in general what you say can be said that bitcoin and fiat are equally important, I agree with that. although maybe its use and form are very different because bitcoin does not have a form while fiat is still in shape but its use is clearly the same, it can be used as a trade and exchange with what we need.

but the two are so different that it is appropriate not to make comparisons but rather to support each other. where of course there is a shortage of fiat and bitcoin can work there and vice versa if fiat is not able to do then bitcoin will be able to solve it. This is clearly a much-needed cooperation between the two.
sr. member
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Bitcoindata.science
July 22, 2021, 04:07:42 AM
You can't have a system who provides open source to it's users and decide to trust a centralized management system. I would rather trust any decentralized system that operates on the blockchain network than trust the centralized traditional banking system that only gives me access to what the feel I should know about my transactions restricting me from partaking in the system directly compared to Bitcoin that isn't centralized but rather operate on a peer to peer software and cryptography.
hero member
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July 22, 2021, 03:31:56 AM
Indeed, many of us now still believe in banks, and there are still many who keep their money in banks, because banks are controlled by the government, because everyone who is in control by the government, our people feel comfortable, even though there is a risk they are not afraid, if bitcoin most of all people are made into assets,, because not many countries accept bitcoin as a legal digital currency, we hope that in the future bitcoin can be equivalent to fiat currency,
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July 22, 2021, 03:31:41 AM
I am a practical person that's why i choose to Invest on both , I have investment in Stocks exchange , In crypto Currencies and also have my funds in Time deposit in banks.

In these segregation i felt more comfortable and secure for my self and my family's future.
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