Topic: Who Wants Jihan Wu's Head on a Platter? - page 3. (Read 3419 times)

Node proportion isn't something we consider very important. Support from economic majority - is what really matters.
https://coin.dance/poli

FIFY.

You should also start hating Wang Chun of F2Pool: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/f2pool-segwit-will-be-a-disaster-1868239

More and more and more people hate Jihan Wu. UASF will get 80% support, this should be enough to make Jihan Wu realize he is a tiny minority in the ecosystem. If not, UASF, PoW change, and BTC with segwit will go to the moon and hashrate will follow price as always.

Agree but this is like when you go fishing and others do it normal way while one MF comes with few
Hand granades to catch fish. Such guys doesn’t care about ecosystem they blow up and take fishes.
They are “SMARTER” than others they exploit weakness.
Okay so now fishmans will do ?
a)   They will for hand grenades and blow up more fishes
b)   They will move to place where those cheats are prohibited.
c)   They will get rid of “SMARTER” fishman and burn his house

In market we see now that is working and reacting to changes. Bitman monopoly is causing problem  miners are abandoning ship because there is no sence to complete with bitmain and they go for new safe bay where cheats are prohibited or punished.
Today BTC have less volume than alts : ) looks like market dominance means NOTHING true war is getting lost slowly.
Market is punishing BTC guys and blockstream/bitmain arrogance - free market is solving BTC problems with fees : ) .

Do you, franky, think Antpool devs are so stupid, that they don't adjust displayed hashrate to reflect all optimisations being used? And btw adjustments may not even be needed, as optimisations likely result just in increased hashrate, or like in the case of asicboost, the optimisation results in decreased energy consumption. Or do you think readers of this forum are so stupid that such baseless claims are good to deceive them?

Here we go again, one dumb shill shows up claiming something is confirmed, without proof.
5 other shills collaborate, all without proof.
A few smart guy replied with logic, asking for proof.
Shills pretend they couldn't see them, went for personal attacks instead.

How do you people even live with yourself?
How do you idiots walk around shamelessly opening your mouth like you don't even care how stupid you look?
How do you overcome that natural instinct to avoid looking like a complete retard?
How do you even train for that? Were you born with these skills or were you just dropped on the head or what?

And if proof isn't important and you're just going for the bullshit factor, why don't you show more ambition and start with something like: 'It looks like it is now confirmed that the earth is flat, and it's the miners fault','oh yeah I agree','oh yeah me too'.

Works exactly the same, but more bang for the buck.

OP, why did you create a BU shill paradise thread for Franky and jonald 

Jihan Wu did what most other people would have done, if they found a loophole to exploit the system... "they used their advantage to make more

money" .... When we were kids we found a way to play Arcade games for free and we made full use of that exploit.... BUT the Arcade owner did

not make profits and they were forced to close down the place. The same thing will happen, when these greedy people get hold of exploits in

Bitcoin. {They will exploit it and in the end people will leave and they will have no "Arcade" to exploit} 

when time itself proves he did not make asics purely to attack segwit
when maths shows he is not even 20% luckier
when logic shows the same

all that is left is that segwit is not the utopian codebase made by immortal gods, but humans who thought they could slide in a tier network via a backdoor to avoid community consensus, and last month a flaw in that has been found.

the only direction the fingers should be pointing is back at the devs to re-try something a little different the community will accept

think logically. practically and rationally.

It appears Jihan Wu has soldiers trying to control PR damage.

Where it was confirmed, do you have a source? Last news I know is when Bitmain declared that they (or anyone else) never used AsicBoost.

Bankrupt? I don't think so AsicBoost is not that amazing, what is this? AsicBoos is a 20% additional hash power?
It won't exactly make ASICS useless. Additional mining power might bring enough profit to fight for but not enough to bankrupt Bitmain.

I thought we reached 75% support for SegWit - consensus level for LTC already.
http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php

I believe that the miners is not Antpool. They were the bitmain. Through the support lost on BU now he is out of control. Even now as OP mentioned his focus might be towards litecoin, but there he cannot simply protrude and make changes as already segwit has gained more than 75% support.

In my opinion, since we already know the intentions of these people which is just to get as much profit as they can and which can just be natural since they are in the business of making money, I think it is time to move on and find real and acceptable solutions to the begging problems which Bitcoin is now facing. Until there can be a unified solutions, the same problems can exist and just using band-aid strategy will not work in the end. I am sure that there are real solutions to these challenges just waiting to be explored and accepted by all. Hope that day can be expedited.

he has been involved in mining ASIC hardware since early 2013, and started selling them to ANYONE by about october 2013
by being involved so long actually debunks the fake drama of asics being made purely to attack segwit.
especially since segwits public release was october 2016

I don't know if I have enough information to really have an informed opinion on the guy, but from my understanding the guy is scummy and I don't have any support for him at this time. That is, again, just based off of what I've heard about him through the forum essentially.

Doesn't really surprise me that he has such a large mining share, seems almost expect at this point.

Can someone fill me in as to how long he's been in the mining scene? If it's been a long time then I can't say I'm all that surprised.

I assume you mean the miners in Antpool?  But if what you are saying is true, why don't the miners simply join one of the many other pools?

lol refute the content, which i know you cant.

secondly.
you calling me a "bug" guy is just revealing your repeating words from other people by using such scripted buzzwords.
same as people trying to pigeon hole me in what ever other decentralised implementation was last year and year before.
its funny how that script keep repeating itself

thirdly
if you think the debate is just BU vs core then you really have been fooled by your reddit scripts.
(hint there are over a dozen different /brands).

the debate is more about blockstream centralisation vs bitcoin network.
where by if you defend blockstream more then bitcoin network (of many implementations) you are revealing more about your own rhetoric that you want blockstream centralisation

where by if you defend blockstream more then bitcoin network (of many implementations) by thinking only core should exist and only because you love the devs of blockstream (P wille, gmax, luke Jr etc) again you are revealing more about your own rhetoric that you want blockstream centralisation

however if you wak up and realise that the bitcoin network can and should run for centuries and realis that blockstreams dev team will move on in a couple years to hyperledger or retire (yep human coders are temporary)
you will see ass kissing devs, and kissing their ass over such a temporary half gesture.. rather than thinking long term about the bitcoin network as a whole.. will be your own failing

Again this 2 paid guys talking trashh. Just shut up bug supporters.

when the ASIC boost drama first got publicised by gmaxwells tears of woe
i done some maths on the top 4 pools to see which pools were 'luckier' than others


i have checked other dates and seen no 20% advantage
even today there is only~ +-1% variance of luck

If ASICboost can be determined to have caused damage to other miners (through suppression/ hindering of the network) and affected their profitability, than there may be the possibility of litigation in a civil court. It wouldn't be a stretch to prove that he caused damage to other miners to maximize profits, and if they didn't pass on the extra earnings to participating pools,.then depending on the contractual agreement, that could be fraud.

Bitcoin is the wild west