who wants more bitcoin expansion locally + a job - page 2.

ThomasCrowne

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Actually think the OP is a great idea. There are several businesses in my area that I believe I could get to accept bitcoin. Have even mentioned it to a couple of them but hadn't gotten around to doing any technical groundwork. I was considering Coinbase for the brick-and-mortar's around town but I suppose BitPay would work just as well. Or perhaps give the client the option of which gateway they would prefer (I'm sure most probably won't even have a preference). 'coinwhat' and 'bitwho'.

Anyway, I'm thinking if something like this where to really get off the ground it should probably also have some sort of 'hot lead' site that is google-maps friendly perhaps with some sort of 'tagging' mechanism so individuals that have already landed mom-and-pops within a particular geography can take credit for such (if they choose). I wonder if one of the major manufacturers accepting bitcoin currently (ie tigerdirect, newegg, or overstock) would offer some sort of bulk-purchase discount for a few hundred tablets? I'm guessing CEO of overstock could probably easily be convinced Wink

If something like this could be arranged I would certainly be on board for at least a couple to start and hopefully dozens more soon afterward.

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i got merchandice to sell but i want to get paid with bitcoin

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Too bad I live in a Major city in my state, but it's either 'dollars or scam'. Sigh. Going to be hard saying otherwise, however, I shall try.

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Quote from: franky1 on July 17, 2014, 12:33:55 AM

Quote from: halfawake on July 16, 2014, 10:29:55 PM

Huh, this is a good idea. I'm tempted to try this with my local computer store.

do you have a 'mom and pop' (independent) grocery store? try them too.

also ask the computer store if their supplier was something like overstock, tiger direct, aria.. and mention they accept bitcoin so resupplying stock is easy, without needing to convert to FIAT. most small independants dont have the confidence and prowess to get great deals direct from the manufacturer's in china etc. especially on small restock orders, the delivery is a killer. so they usually get stock from within country, via resellers/drop shippers/ online merchants.

Most of the local grocery stores are major chains, but there is one independent grocery store. Run by a chinese couple, I think. I almost never shop there though, and I suspect I'd get blank stares if I mentioned bitcoin.

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guys check out www.bitcoinadoption.org

im trying to organize incentives for this kind of thing.

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Quote from: halfawake on July 16, 2014, 10:29:55 PM

Huh, this is a good idea. I'm tempted to try this with my local computer store.

do you have a 'mom and pop' (independent) grocery store? try them too.

also ask the computer store if their supplier was something like overstock, tiger direct, aria.. and mention they accept bitcoin so resupplying stock is easy, without needing to convert to FIAT. most small independants dont have the confidence and prowess to get great deals direct from the manufacturer's in china etc. especially on small restock orders, the delivery is a killer. so they usually get stock from within country, via resellers/drop shippers/ online merchants.

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Huh, this is a good idea. I'm tempted to try this with my local computer store.

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Quote from: commandrix on June 19, 2014, 05:15:57 PM

Quote from: btcbug on June 19, 2014, 05:02:56 PM

Anyone used Bitpay as a merchant? I am guessing a very basic android tablet would be fine, no?

For example here is a Lenovo for $99 currently with $20 rebate http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8563442&CatId=6845

BitPay? They may or may not go for the pricing depending on whether it's cheaper than just them using credit cards. Is there some other way to do this that won't involve a monthly fee?

Would Mycelium work? Requires an Android tablet but need not be real expensive if all you're doing is running one single app on it.

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Quote from: Baitty on July 16, 2014, 06:26:57 PM

That's the only major problem for me with Bitcoin. Nothing locally which is a bit of a pain. most things I'm interested in purchasing is across seas which means I get hit by import charges. I really do wish there was more Bitcoin services near me.

think grocery stores, bars, restaurants, etc.. every day essentials. because when your living a bitcoin life you dont want to have to change it back to FIAt just to pay the bills and buy food

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That's the only major problem for me with Bitcoin. Nothing locally which is a bit of a pain. most things I'm interested in purchasing is across seas which means I get hit by import charges. I really do wish there was more Bitcoin services near me.

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Quote from: AmDD on July 16, 2014, 05:20:10 PM

Any success? So far I've contacted a few local businesses and 2 are looking into Bitcoin. Nothing set in stone yet but the ball is starting to roll (ever so slightly

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im having success, but then always have as i have had 2 years to develop objection handling of bitcoin.
if any questions such as objections that merchants commonly come back with dont be afraid to shout them out if you cant think of what to say, as i or we (the community) can help.

main objections
drugs propaganda -
Q "isnt bitcoin that drug money for the intrnet"
A "isnt dollars that drug money for street corners of detroit, but seriously bitcoins can b used for anything, yes there WAS silkroad, one website. but there are over 100,000 legitimate businesses accepting bitcoin direcly or indirectly. IRS has officially announced it as a legal asset for trading, barter. bloomberg are advertising it, etc"
Q "it isnt tangible/intrinsic"
A "those are two words of the commodities market, not the asset market. where things like copyright, intellectual property, art, music are not physical, but all have a asset value."
Q "bet its hard to set up."
A "nope, you can start with just displaying a basic QR code, and then convert the funds to money in your bank account later. or you can sign up to bitpay to do it automatically, to save any price changes that happen during the day. or lastly i can give you a QR code, and you can just use either my website or phone me for a price total and ill pay you cash in hand at the agreed amount.. want me to set it up here and now, it wont take long and wont cost you anything extra"

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Quote from: AmDD on July 16, 2014, 05:20:10 PM

Any success? So far I've contacted a few local businesses and 2 are looking into Bitcoin. Nothing set in stone yet but the ball is starting to roll (ever so slightly

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EXECELLENT!

I have a big announcement coming soon about organizational efforts.

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Any success? So far I've contacted a few local businesses and 2 are looking into Bitcoin. Nothing set in stone yet but the ball is starting to roll (ever so slightly

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Quote from: keithers on June 20, 2014, 04:11:23 PM

This would help. I would think that Coinbase, Bitpay, and a few others are already out there doing this... As much as most people like to hate on the Bitcoin Foundation, I feel like they should be approaching the larger companies in the world to encourage them to adopt BTC

BitPay and Coinbase are actively doing this.

I've contacted BitPay to work on an affiliate program. They currently have "Integration Gurus" that you can apply for but I kind of pitched the idea of making this an international affiliate type setup. People would have to be trained and/or pass a basic knowledge test. Additionally, these people would be the "face" of bitcoin to a new merchant. That means quality control of these Integration Gurus needs to be very tight.

good stuff this is what i want the community to be doing, getting involved and doing stuff

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Quote from: keithers on June 20, 2014, 04:11:23 PM

This would help. I would think that Coinbase, Bitpay, and a few others are already out there doing this... As much as most people like to hate on the Bitcoin Foundation, I feel like they should be approaching the larger companies in the world to encourage them to adopt BTC

BitPay and Coinbase are actively doing this.

I've contacted BitPay to work on an affiliate program. They currently have "Integration Gurus" that you can apply for but I kind of pitched the idea of making this an international affiliate type setup. People would have to be trained and/or pass a basic knowledge test. Additionally, these people would be the "face" of bitcoin to a new merchant. That means quality control of these Integration Gurus needs to be very tight.

Excellent.

Nothing like good old fashioned Capitalism to move things forward. :-)

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Quote from: franky1 on June 19, 2014, 02:28:18 PM

ok guys enough sitting on sofa's complaining of 51%ing

who seriously wants shops/businesses in their town to accept bitcoin and they want a job at the same time?

so here is the plan.
stage 1 if you are seriously interested, you know about bitcoin enough to know how to use bitpay, your good at sales pitches and you have lots of shops, stores, businesses and services near you that you simply wish would take bitcoin. keep reading.

what will happen is an IRC chat will be set up where those truly interested can come to talk and thrash out idea's.. but before that, here is the main idea.

2) we all collectively seek out tigerdirect/overstock and find the cheapest workable tablet PC that will run the bitpay app and maybe a exchange service. we then contact the supplier to see if they do any bulk discount.

3) next is to look at your area and see what is the average fair 'consultation fee' is.

4) then start going around to all of those businesses and tell them that for (consultation fee+tablet price) you can set them up with a working tablet PC that has been set up with bitpay for that business to start accepting bitcoin and includes X hours of consultation/training.

5) setup a meeting for the following week where you take the fee, buy the discounted tablet (week delay in meeting to get tablet prepped) and then set them up

there are no contracted employment, no boss, no upfront costs. no multi level bullshit. just direct marketing. simply put the merchant prepays your labour and the tablet costs.

its the simplest business model that the title describes.

i am not the boss of this, this is all for you lot to organise,

now, discuss

This would help. I would think that Coinbase, Bitpay, and a few others are already out there doing this... As much as most people like to hate on the Bitcoin Foundation, I feel like they should be approaching the larger companies in the world to encourage them to adopt BTC

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Oh, I remember him very well, lol!

I guess in my position I really do believe in Bitcoin. I feel me putting down money (I don't pay retail for tablets, or anything for that matter) will come back to me later in one form or another. Spreading awareness is good enough for me (for now). With that said, I buy tablets for business's I frequent or support. Additionally, I've been refused a free tablet and a company would be more than fine to buy a ~$100 tablet as a business expense to save $XXXXX.

in some cases if you organise a training day/setup/consult with a business they usually can pre-pay and then that gives you the funds to get the tablet. you can even make it so that the merchant buys $50-$100 of bitcoins and uses them to order the tablet themselves thus introducing them to bitcoins. then you just turn up a few days later to do the setup / training. and get the labour fee..

it all depends on how your area deals with consultations, some countries naturally pre-pay. some post-pay.

franky1

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There are a lot of us who have this idea/concept but in different variations.

I made this post a few weeks back in reply to someone inquiring about doing just this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26tbwj/how_do_you_convince_a_local_bar_to_start/chu9krc?context=3

thats all good.

my inspiration was funnily enough reading and rebuttling some weed smokers utopian dream of asking for $4.5 billion from th community to build his bitcoin town... yea over half the current market cap.. for one town.

and i calculated that if it cost $200 per business to set them up. it only cost $100k to set up 500 businesses, making several towns bitcoin friendly for a decimal amount 0.0025% of what that crazy guy was dreaming of

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So anyway, back on topic....

Quote from: franky1 on June 19, 2014, 04:50:01 PM

Quote from: AmDD on June 19, 2014, 04:39:44 PM

Ive thought many times about doing this very thing. I just wish I was a salesman. I couldnt sell ice to a guy in hell. Sad

maybe you can stick around ('watch' this topic) as others who hav some true desire to get shops near their home to accept bitcoin can hlp you come up with some easy to use tips. even a few of you may wish to develop a leaflet that explains bitcoin. or even one of you be an all access skype/email consultant that businesses can go to where if it leads to a sale, that remote consultant gets a slice of your labour fee as a thanks.

take it any direction you please.

AmDD:
how many shops in your town do you personally have that you think will benefit from adopting bitcoin.
how many of those have you even asked if they accept bitcoin.
do you know enough about bitcoin to explain it man to man (dont think of it as a sales pitch)
do you know how bitpay works?

There are quite a few here that could benefit from Bitcoin. There is one restaurant who recently started accepting Dogecoin, actually.
I have personally asked very few if they accept it.
Yes, I understand it enough to explain it to someone else.
I know the principle but Ive never been on the merchant side of it to know all the details.

Im a pretty quiet and shy person which makes selling anything tough. I did email one of the local shops yesterday, explaining Bitcoin and why they should adopt it. The reply was better than I expected but nothing for sure yet. They are interested in learning about it so thats a plus. I also foundout a friends uncle owns a bar and grill in town. Im going to see if I can have my buddy talk to him about Bitcoin.

A thought I had about the tablet thing, you can find used smart phones for pretty cheap here. The screen isnt as big but it could work just the same. They could either get a data plan for it or just setup wifi in the shop and not have a monthly fee. Something like a GS3 is probably $30 used...

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 19, 2014, 08:01:52 PM

Interesting.

you want over-generalize the word "job" here... but when it comes
to other things like "goxing" you want to over-specify
and say it only applies to the actual Mt gox.

I guess that's what happens when you have too many Bitcoins...
you get bored and start becoming the language police Tongue

nah its just when people start getting to working age they start to know that a job is not limited to employee contracts.

EG DPR: "i have a little job for you" .. Hitman: "who, when and how do you want it done"

as for goxxing..
a goxxing is not a zhuo tong, nor is it a pirate theft.. if i went around the community and asked who got goxxed, everyone will instantly refer to the mtgox debacle.. trying to generalise something specific, and trying to specify something generalised is not my problem.. its common sense, and a problem for others if they cant deal with common sense

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