Topic: who wants more bitcoin expansion locally + a job - page 3. (Read 3760 times)

Interesting.

you want over-generalize the word "job" here... but when it comes
to other things like "goxing" you want to over-specify
and say it only applies to the actual Mt gox.

I guess that's what happens when you have too many Bitcoins...
you get bored and start becoming the language police 

saying extra income to me is like saying here have free money, stay sat on your ass.  

but when people have to actually walk to businesses and actually do some work.. i call that a job

job=work..

whether it is freelance, employed, contracted or not. its still a job..
i did not say i wanted to EMPLOYE anyone (me manager, you slave by contract)

for instance, a handy man that works for himself, recently done a job at my neighbours house to fix up her garden
for instance, i asked the handy man what else he does, he said "well i do an odd job here, an odd job there, i keep busy"

a job is a task that generally receives an agreed payment.

contracted employment. can be a job, but a job is not limited to contracted employment

just for laughs and giggles:
but if you really want a contract job with targets and set income.. here:
contract: if you sell a setup package and consult with a merchant to completion, your set wage is the consultation fee. there is no minimum target, you are free to do as much as you like or as little. but by doing nothing you get no wage. making the contract null and void. now id like your left hand to sign one line as being your manager, and your right hand to sign the other line as the employee. and ill leave your left hand to tell your right hand what it should do next

franky1, Thanks for the effort, and accuracy matters:
+ a job
Calling "+ extra income" or several other options would be much more accurate than "a job".

most grocery stores dont have an inhouse (store use) tablet. and some of the objections i had was "so we have to buy our own phone/tablet"

hense my brainfart included a tablet as a "essential-gimmick"

but each to their own, you can start with the setup package of a basic tablet+halfday consult. then offer downgrade if tablet not required or upgrade for extra training/support/better brand tablet..

and ofcourse each package has free PR coverage from local news (if media find it interesting/newsworthy)

in my original brainfart i was thinking just a basic unbranded $50 tablet with $50(few hours)-$100(day) consultation/training fee, but i left it open for anyoneto use their own towns economic status to decide the costs.

EG beverly hills, nexus 7/ipad + $500 consultation
standard mundane boring town.. my price example
 

Ahh, fingerprint-verified wealth-based valuation of human beings, the true pathway to corporate neo-fascism. A world where your worth is determined entirely by your corporate owner. Combine with RFID implants at birth so they can track your location globally, finally they'll get slavery back.

Had a simliar idea except that instead of selling them a tablet, you let them use their own machine.
You act as a bitcoin consultant , get them setup and maybe submit their name to the local press,etc.
Maybe a website listing, but you can package it as "pr" + consulting and get paid to just introduce btc.

I have too many other projects going on but would be good opportunity for someone.

Threw the question out there: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/attn-businesses-whats-a-good-budget-tablet-to-run-bitpay-app-658623

According to these guys the Nexus 7 is the best budget: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/tablets/3412038/10-best-budget-tablets-2014/

Reasonable price at Tigerdirect $179.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9083380&CatId=6957

4/5 review at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Google-7-Inch-Black-Tablet/dp/B00DVFLJKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403222498&sr=8-1&keywords=nexus+7

another option, is to be the payment processor for your town.

if you have access to some nice prices. you put on your own payment tool onto the tablet that when a merchant shows a FIAT total, your reply to the App is a btc price (you calculated in a profit margin) and customers deposit their bitcoins.
you sell the bitcoin you then pay the merchant the exact FIAT they requested (you keeping the profit margin)

Money has been nothing for many years just paper with a King or queen on it and most banks are running out of it quicker than they can print it. Come 10 years money will be worthless and cryptos will create the way of taking place of normal fiat. And banks are already considering to stop printing money and just have accounts with Finger print access and token access and use to pay for stuff and one corporate company already coming up with the equipment to make this happen and have shops with no money in only other than machines that use finger print and other tec in a way like the contract-less debit cards

i too hate that about bitpay. they with one hand try to say they search round for the best possible exchanges for the lowest price(so they say), and then with the other hand charge merchants a premium.

id far prefer bitpay to just use average price (knowing they can skim a little off the top for their own costs) and make it so that when merchants want $10, the btc price shows an amount that will ensure the merchant gets the whole $10, and not $9.90.

after all thats how circle intends to do things. they dont get fee's from the merchant, they profit on the price differences of the average, vs the lowest priced exchange they have access to. customers/merchants just wont see that part

EG
Bitcoin average $595

BTC-E $588
Rock Trading 599.80 USD
Vircurex 625.00 USD
Crypto-Trade 611.82 USD
Vault of Satoshi    605.00 USD

say they used the average and a merchant had a customers basket total of $595 (coincidence for no-math-required-example)
bitpay shows 1BTC price.. customer is happy as thats the average.

then bitpay behind the scenes sold the BTC on vircurex and got $625 (5% profit) and ensured the merchant got all $595 in their bank.

Have you seen how much the US pays out in earned income credit each year? Money for nothing is an institution in the US now.

Err, no thanks! Wage slavery is not my style anymore, did that for about a decade and got bored.

Hmm perhaps because our government oligarchs do it daily with no repercussions? We slaves just want in on the action...

thats called contracted employment. (like woring in mcdonalds or walmart)

a job is not limited to that.. self employed people have jobs, entrepreuners have jobs, zero-hour contractors hav jobs.. but each are not contracted employee's


secondly fronting you money!!! again you dont get what a job is..
try working in mcdonalds and ask for your wage upfront
try some freelance gardening, wash someone car and ask for money upfront.

seriously..
why do people think they can get money for nothing these days!!!

This is an awesome idea. Our farmers market is finally opening this week. Might be a good time to mention bit coin to some merchants I have befriended. 

Oh damn really?! I had no idea, that sounds awful! Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely avoid jobs in that case!

Your title is still wrong by the way, this pursuit of yours still does not qualify as a job. Words have meanings, we ought to respect them else language becomes useless.

Now if you want to front me some money and offer a weekly or bi-weekly wage for doing this work, I would be interested and you could actually call it a job without misrepresenting yourself.

BitPay? They may or may not go for the pricing depending on whether it's cheaper than just them using credit cards. Is there some other way to do this that won't involve a monthly fee?

looking for the best tablet has to be functional

really good wifi/browser speeds and good touch/gesture sensitivity.. but ofcourse the more you go up the price the more it would eat into a 'reasonable' fee to charge the merchants, meaning less labour charge for you.

so keep searching.

their may come a point where there is enough interested people with x amount of semi interested merchants to get tiger/overstock to do some discount. maybe even get jgarzik (who works for bitpay) to program some ISO's with training video's and the bitpay app, to help make the consultation /training with merchant as easy as pie.

Or a nice new HP for $125 http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/HP-7-Plus-1301-8-GB-Tablet-7-In-plane-Switching-IPS-Technology/9040049/product.html?refccid=RIWF26JUQYGKT4SCA6TU6EPMZY&searchidx=0

I'd probably stick with a brand name.

Anyone used Bitpay as a merchant? I am guessing a very basic android tablet would be fine, no?

For example here is a Lenovo for $99 currently with $20 rebate http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8563442&CatId=6845