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We should be sending this message to USA: Please stop overreaching and concentrate on your own problems first!
without please!
This is just a robbery, nothing else, there have to be way how to make group lawsuit agains those bastards.
Topic: who would have thought: Btc-e coming back this soon! (Read 1744 times)
We should be sending this message to USA: Please stop overreaching and concentrate on your own problems first!
without please!
This is just a robbery, nothing else, there have to be way how to make group lawsuit agains those bastards.
Btc-e is a big exchange platform.Why don` t they make official statements in english?
Lucky for me,i understand russian a little bit,even without Google translate.
It`s good that everything that happened with btc-e had amost no influence over the bitcoin price.
The russian authorities are quilty for trying to destroy btc-e.
Lucky for me,i understand russian a little bit,even without Google translate.
It`s good that everything that happened with btc-e had amost no influence over the bitcoin price.
The russian authorities are quilty for trying to destroy btc-e.
they've never been very good at english. you always got support problems answered much faster in russian. kind of ironic that the 'criminals' will pay you back but the american government won't if they get their hands on your money.
Indeed, it is quite ironic! In our modern information age, one of the remaining trait of USA is its continuing to act like it is the global police and it is not respecting the sovereignty of other countries. I have no problem with its desire to run after the criminals but it has to go to the normal process and there should be no shortcut. And it should return the currency it got from this exchange because those coins do not belong to USA but to the members of BTC-e. They should understand that they are not doing harm to the business of this exchange and they are actually robbing members.
We are hoping that despite what happened, BTC-e can be able to stand back once again and reopen its business to the general public. Once it can be able to do this then it can slowly get back the goodwill it built for many years.
We should be sending this message to USA: Please stop overreaching and concentrate on your own problems first!
If they have all this why they didnt relauch and return funds to owners. They had quite the amount from this market BTC LTC ETH DASH, I mean cmon if they really want something done it should be done by now. And true domain is just domain they could use another any from a to z dot something, ANN in official tread here and social media and return to normal.
Logistically, it takes time. Securing all assets and data integrity, new (politically safe) datacenters and remote server setups, discussions with US law enforcement (those appear to have failed based on the last update), setting up new legal entities, working out the logistics of repayment when most losses were in USD (reconciling millions of accounts), building a new front end (given that they are attempting to re-brand)... this all takes time. No, I don't believe "it should be done by now." Do I believe that the exchange will deliver and repay customers? Maybe, in part, but the mention of KYC is very fishy, so if I were betting, I'd bet against recovery.
i'd put the odds in favor of the owners disappearing and no relaunch. but there is a definite non-zero chance that btc-e comes back in some form. russian big balls are in play here now; there may be no turning back. 
whatever the case with vinnik is, the indictment wasn't very condemning of btc-e. i'd be curious to see what evidence they have to pin him as an owner and/or principal manager.
a domain is just a domain. poker site domains get seized; they pop back up on .ag or something similar. the important thing is the money. how well was the fiat hidden, how much can they move (i.e. get into crypto and USDT or similar), and was much crypto lost? this is what matters. if btc-e really wanted to relaunch, they could do so as a TOR hidden service or play whack-a-mole with domains like the pirate bay did.
whatever the case with vinnik is, the indictment wasn't very condemning of btc-e. i'd be curious to see what evidence they have to pin him as an owner and/or principal manager.
a domain is just a domain. poker site domains get seized; they pop back up on .ag or something similar. the important thing is the money. how well was the fiat hidden, how much can they move (i.e. get into crypto and USDT or similar), and was much crypto lost? this is what matters. if btc-e really wanted to relaunch, they could do so as a TOR hidden service or play whack-a-mole with domains like the pirate bay did.
I go for this to. If they have all this why they didnt relauch and return funds to owners. They had quite the amount from this market BTC LTC ETH DASH, I mean cmon if they really want something done it should be done by now. And true domain is just domain they could use another any from a to z dot something, ANN in official tread here and social media and return to normal.
Bottom is this wont be relaunched, sorry for all that have there something, myself had few ltc if i recall no more then 2-3 so hell with it.
a domain is just a domain. poker site domains get seized; they pop back up on .ag or something similar.
I remember last year that I offered BTC-E the btc-e.co domain that I was holding, but they gave me no answer. Unfortunately, due to a noob mistake from my side, the domain got expired as I by mistake disabled auto renewal. After noticing that the domain wasn't sitting in my registrar account, I checked, and yes, it got registered by someone else. In this case, it would definitely be a great alternative domain for BTC-E to operate from, if they are ever planning to seriously come back.the important thing is the money. how well was the fiat hidden, how much can they move (i.e. get into crypto and USDT or similar), and was much crypto lost? this is what matters. if btc-e really wanted to relaunch, they could do so as a TOR hidden service or play whack-a-mole with domains like the pirate bay did.
It's safe to assume, or at least the best option in order to not get disappointed, is to completely forget about fiat. The only thing that there is left to focus on, is what they have sitting in their cold wallets. Authorities can size everything they want, but there is no way they will ever find out where the cold wallets are hidden, unless Vinnik (in case he is really the co operator) opens his mouth. But hey, even if that is the case, the cold wallet funds are moved to a different location, that's pretty much guaranteed. 
So further updates:
There could be a possibility that BTC_e is going to refund everone. That is what they are promising anyways. I personally think that there is a greater chance of them just not refund anyone than there is a chance of them refunding everyone successfully.
Pretty sure that that Alexander guy not being in any BTC-e position was BS, though.
Domain is still seized atm, so i don't thinkthere is any chance of them making a comeback. Best that there is is going to be them refunding everyone.
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Update4!
Current information:
1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.
2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.
Best regards support btc-e
Current information:
1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.
2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.
Best regards support btc-e
There could be a possibility that BTC_e is going to refund everone. That is what they are promising anyways. I personally think that there is a greater chance of them just not refund anyone than there is a chance of them refunding everyone successfully.
Pretty sure that that Alexander guy not being in any BTC-e position was BS, though.
Domain is still seized atm, so i don't thinkthere is any chance of them making a comeback. Best that there is is going to be them refunding everyone.
i'd put the odds in favor of the owners disappearing and no relaunch. but there is a definite non-zero chance that btc-e comes back in some form. russian big balls are in play here now; there may be no turning back.
whatever the case with vinnik is, the indictment wasn't very condemning of btc-e. i'd be curious to see what evidence they have to pin him as an owner and/or principal manager.
a domain is just a domain. poker site domains get seized; they pop back up on .ag or something similar. the important thing is the money. how well was the fiat hidden, how much can they move (i.e. get into crypto and USDT or similar), and was much crypto lost? this is what matters. if btc-e really wanted to relaunch, they could do so as a TOR hidden service or play whack-a-mole with domains like the pirate bay did.
So further updates:
There could be a possibility that BTC_e is going to refund everone. That is what they are promising anyways. I personally think that there is a greater chance of them just not refund anyone than there is a chance of them refunding everyone successfully.
Pretty sure that that Alexander guy not being in any BTC-e position was BS, though.
Domain is still seized atm, so i don't thinkthere is any chance of them making a comeback. Best that there is is going to be them refunding everyone.
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Update4!
Current information:
1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.
2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.
Best regards support btc-e
Current information:
1. We were able to access our databases and wallets, at the moment we are evaluating data and balances on koin, this information will be made public by the end of next week.
2. We confirm that the main streams of the threads have been sent to the service through Mayzus Financial Services Ltd and at the moment they are arrested.
Best regards support btc-e
There could be a possibility that BTC_e is going to refund everone. That is what they are promising anyways. I personally think that there is a greater chance of them just not refund anyone than there is a chance of them refunding everyone successfully.
Pretty sure that that Alexander guy not being in any BTC-e position was BS, though.
Domain is still seized atm, so i don't thinkthere is any chance of them making a comeback. Best that there is is going to be them refunding everyone.
why not?
US gov cannot steal money from non US citizens, wtf!
If there were not storing keys on very same server as was seized, then all funds are ok and safe.
If seizure is againts BTC and even not against all of them, at least other cryptos have to be returned very soon and rest of btc later.
I don't se a point why would they abandon such a good business they have already build
If they can make a come back then that is great, but most of the time when a site was seized by the US that was it, the game was over, the fact they can make a comeback so soon means that they are prepared to take into account scenarios that would destroy other sites. US gov cannot steal money from non US citizens, wtf!
If there were not storing keys on very same server as was seized, then all funds are ok and safe.
If seizure is againts BTC and even not against all of them, at least other cryptos have to be returned very soon and rest of btc later.
I don't se a point why would they abandon such a good business they have already build
why not?
US gov cannot steal money from non US citizens, wtf!
If there were not storing keys on very same server as was seized, then all funds are ok and safe.
If seizure is againts BTC and even not against all of them, at least other cryptos have to be returned very soon and rest of btc later.
I don't se a point why would they abandon such a good business they have already build
US gov cannot steal money from non US citizens, wtf!
If there were not storing keys on very same server as was seized, then all funds are ok and safe.
If seizure is againts BTC and even not against all of them, at least other cryptos have to be returned very soon and rest of btc later.
I don't se a point why would they abandon such a good business they have already build
they've released an official statement today in a couple of hours ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
What I’m intrigued is, how are they making a comeback? And so soon, did they had other servers that were not seized? Because it seem incredible to me they are coming back after what happened. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
they've released an official statement today in a couple of hours ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
I heard about it as well but it's a scam is what people are saying. Not sure on what has to be believed and what doesn't has to be believed. You never know who is trying to spam you and who is not. It's always better to be on the safer side. Let's just hope for the best. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
I don't think that is true.They might be making excuses to run btc-e again but I don't think many will trust them like they did till now.
BTC-e was seized by FBI and they are very hard to deal with. Even if FBI allows them to run as normal it might take more than a year to get their case resolved.
Their statement says Alexander Vinnik has nothing to do with their service. I'm fairly sure that part of the statement is a lie.
Why would you believe anything they say right now? Personally, I'll only believe they're coming back/repaying users once everyone has been repaid.
Why would you believe anything they say right now? Personally, I'll only believe they're coming back/repaying users once everyone has been repaid.
Fully agree with you,
They said 'Alexander Vinnik has nothing to do with our services',from this statement we can see how deep their relationship.
the true meaning from their statement in LOGICAL way should be like this 'Alexander Vinnik has something to do with our services'.
just look when they're doing a maintenance and Alexander cases,it's coincide ? no,it's showed us a relation between both of them.
I just want to know,the costumers who's using their services can withdraw back what they have in there ?
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
I don't think that is true.They might be making excuses to run btc-e again but I don't think many will trust them like they did till now.
BTC-e was seized by FBI and they are very hard to deal with. Even if FBI allows them to run as normal it might take more than a year to get their case resolved.
Very good. I hope they will complete their promises. Cryptocurrencies need this kind of news, it, at least makes some people think. "Yeah even if some people damaged, I will be paid back full" Trust is more valuable than price.
If this exchange happens to make a come back, I am sure it will never be the same anymore ~ at least, that should be what would happen since this exchange can't be fully trusted.
People will use a potential come back purely as an opportunity to get whatever they have sitting in their account out of there, as soon as possible.
I however don't know what will happen with their fiat activities since they are not allowed to operate any type of service that has an involvement in fiat. In order to change that, they need to properly register themselves.
People will use a potential come back purely as an opportunity to get whatever they have sitting in their account out of there, as soon as possible.
I however don't know what will happen with their fiat activities since they are not allowed to operate any type of service that has an involvement in fiat. In order to change that, they need to properly register themselves.
they've released an official statement today in a couple of hours ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
the interesting line is the last one and says this Alexander guy wasn't their owner.
I actually didn't think they would come back so soon and its really a surprising thing to happen which could even be due to the heat being faced by the authority but that does not even change the fact that I will trust exchange sites with my funds. Also, I have issues with for them allowing the guy to dry on its own shows that the heat is so hot for them to let him face the music on his own. Promise does not weigh much until its fulfilled I hope they can keep to their words and return investors funds in due time.
Their statement says Alexander Vinnik has nothing to do with their service. I'm fairly sure that part of the statement is a lie.
Why would you believe anything they say right now? Personally, I'll only believe they're coming back/repaying users once everyone has been repaid.
Why would you believe anything they say right now? Personally, I'll only believe they're coming back/repaying users once everyone has been repaid.
yeah. i agree. this is more like a glimmer of hope rather than believing them. they at least made an effort to communicate with their users, not just go away into hiding completely. they were always anonymous anyways.
It is a really promising development as i never thought that the customers would even get the coins back after all these issues and i can understand why they are taking a stand in downplaying the guy arrested,we need more details regarding it to know more about the arrest rather than the official release from the legal corner about what they have charged against them,i hope everyone will get their coins back and if they never had an idea to return the coins they would not said that now.
they've released an official statement today in a couple of hours ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2056158
use google translate or look at comment #13, someone already did.
who would have thought they come back this soon and promise a refund!
Let's see if they'll stay true to their word! I wouldn't be surprised if people actually get their coins back. None of the other exchanges have been both so shady and legit at the same time as btc-e.
While I can imagine that Alexander wasn't the owner, I still assume that he was at least employed by btc-e. Either way, let's see if they make a comeback. Would be pretty epic to see the honey badger of exchanges get back to live.
I dont know if my memory is right only poloniex return all funds. Really dont know how will they do this but if they do they will be more then good for future deposit. I moved my coins from there cuz they dont have anything just few coin and maybe that is better no delay in trading at least.
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